"This is (read: could very well be) just a cop not knowing how dangerous a violent situation is until afterword when you can sit in safety and pour over a video."
Are you arguing the proper response when ignorant of the specifics is to resort to violence? If this cop can't deal with the stress of being in a dangerous situation, maybe he should do something else. But under no circumstances is it acceptable for a cop to use anything but the most minimal amount of force necessary.
"For all we know the last time this cop arrested this guy for fighting he tried to stab him with a knife."
Now the last time that kid encountered a cop, he got Tazed without a warning or anything. That seems like justification for him to start carrying a gun and shoot any cop he sees.
I think the warrant question should be solved pretty easily. If a normal citizen would not be allowed to do something, law enforcement needs a warrant to do it.
Why would you do that? What is the point of feeding urandom through a filter looking for the works of Shakespeare? Also, what is the point of giving real monkeys typewriters? This is all completely pointless.
This sort of conduct must result in jail time. It is completely unacceptable that a police officer can brutalize citizens and face little-to-no consequences. Police officers should face draconian sanctions for every offense against citizens. Most of them would have nothing to fear, but corrupt officials deserve years in jail and stiff fines.
"The damage isn't just in the doing, it's in others seeing them do it and thinking they can get away with it to."
Last I checked, you are not responsible for the potential future actions of others. Should OJ Simpson be sent to jail for "felony getting away with murder" because everyone thinks he did it and people might therefore believe that they too could get away with it?
While that is the traditional way things have been done, most people do not go to strip clubs to enjoy the music. They go for the naked people. To claim that music is central to the strip-club experience one is paying for is either misguided or revealing of certain sexual predilections. ;)
I agree. Well, I would put it differently. I think it's a product problem and a familiarity problem. Even those of us who are intense computer users still spend inordinate amounts of time interacting with real people face to face. As a result, there are just many things that we are all used to which fail in the computer world. When explaining something fails, I can escalate the number of channels in use. I can start gesturing, drawing, moving little objects around etc. It's really hard to give that flexible of an interface to a computer.
Somebody just outed themselves as a physicist or engineer. Productivity in business is output over payroll cost. The whole idea that you pay people for their hours is nonsense. (Outside of some cases where just being there is your job) You are paying people because you want them to make stuff for you. Let me put it this way:
You have a widget factory. Each widget is sold for $10 with 5$ of materials. Your employees are paid $10 per hour and they make 32 widgets per day. So you take in $320 of cash, pay $160 for material and $80 payroll for a total cost of goods sold of $240 per day per employee. You take home $80 per day per employee. (Forget capital costs, taxes et al for now) Everyone is happy. All is good, this is in fact within minor variation the way things work in the widget industry. But one day, a study comes out and you hear that OMG EMPLOYEES SPEND 2 HOURS PLAYING ANGRY BIRDS EVERY FREAKIN DAY! You of course know the answer. Those people work per hour and therefore, you say: clock out whenever you play angry-birds. They are honest people, so they do as you say. You still sell the same number of widgets, produce the same number of widgets but now, you pay out $20 less per worker per day. You take home $100 per worker per day now. Amazing! And then suddenly, you start finding your employees are leaving. I also produce widgets. In fact my business is identical to yours except I let my employees play Angry Birds 2 hours a day on company time. Boy am I stupid. You on the other hand know about the reserve army of the unemployed. But it turns out, when you interview people, you hear the same story. "I would have preferred to work for PrometheeFeu where they can play Angry Birds, but they wouldn't take me because I am too inexperienced/incompetent. But sure, I'll come and work for you." Of course, I didn't hire those people! They only make 24 widgets per day. So now, you are taking in $240 in cash, spending $125 in material and still $60 in labor for a profit of $55 per day per employee so now you are not "wasting" any money, but you are also making much less of it.
Of course, the numbers could change differently but the point is, the market has the equilibrium it has for a reason. The fact that employees can play Angry Birds, comment on TechDirt etc is part if their compensation package. It may not be written, it may not be official, but it is true. I work at a company that has a number of amenities. None of those are written in the contract, but if they removed said amenities, some of us might go work for competitors who still provide free lunches, pool tables and snacks. And this is the case at all levels. Your boss not being a jerk to you is compensation. Your bathroom breaks being on company time is compensation. If you think you can lower compensation without consequences, you are mistaken.
Actually employees get increasing marginal costs on work. (just like everyone) So if you boost the amount of time you want your employees focused, you had better start paying more.
To be fair, telecommuting can be sub-optimal even as an engineer. When I have a tough problem to crack, nothing replaces working with a co-worker face-to-face. Sure, lots can be done over video-conference, phone, chat, etc. But you still get more channels of communication in person.
Perhaps you are leaving money on the table. Or perhaps when you introduce clocking out to go to the bathroom, web filter blocks and start hiring more people to make sure you are getting your full hours work, your employees will realize they don't like working for you and will go work for a competitor.
I don't know what industry you are in, but I work in software. And in software, the companies that get the best engineers are the companies that pay well, but also and perhaps more importantly give their employees a pleasant work environment where people don't constantly stand over their shoulder making sure they are not day-dreaming, reading TechDirt or playing Angry Birds.
The hourly rate is confusing you. The reason why you hire people is not to staff desks, chairs, etc for 8 hrs a day just 'cause. It is to get something done. The only valuable measure of productivity is how much work gets accomplished vs how much money you are spending on payroll. So instead of complaining that you are paying for 8 hrs of work and only getting 6, look at it as: Is the amount of money you are making from the employee's work greater than the amount of money you are spending on them? If yes, then you have a productive employee. If not, then you do not have a productive employee.
"It would bother you if you were the child being raped because people could make money off the porn, but keep the paperbag over over your head."
Actually, I'm pretty sure that if I was a child being raped my distress would be with the fact that I was being raped and the pictured being taken. The fact that money changed hands in the production and distribution of pictures would be the least of my concerns. In fact, if law enforcement was to put stopping the exchange of the files for money higher on the priority list than rescuing me, I would find that deeply depressing.
So stop making arguments for non-profit child rape.
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Are you arguing the proper response when ignorant of the specifics is to resort to violence? If this cop can't deal with the stress of being in a dangerous situation, maybe he should do something else. But under no circumstances is it acceptable for a cop to use anything but the most minimal amount of force necessary.
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Now the last time that kid encountered a cop, he got Tazed without a warning or anything. That seems like justification for him to start carrying a gun and shoot any cop he sees.
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1. "Stop! Police!"
2. Pulls out Tazer. "This is a Tazer. Stop or I shoot."
3. Use Tazer.
Those were just a bunch of kids fighting. They most likely would have just stopped as soon as they noticed the cop was there.
That guy should be fired and thrown in jail for assault.
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Last I checked, you are not responsible for the potential future actions of others. Should OJ Simpson be sent to jail for "felony getting away with murder" because everyone thinks he did it and people might therefore believe that they too could get away with it?
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Somebody just outed themselves as a physicist or engineer. Productivity in business is output over payroll cost. The whole idea that you pay people for their hours is nonsense. (Outside of some cases where just being there is your job) You are paying people because you want them to make stuff for you. Let me put it this way:
You have a widget factory. Each widget is sold for $10 with 5$ of materials. Your employees are paid $10 per hour and they make 32 widgets per day. So you take in $320 of cash, pay $160 for material and $80 payroll for a total cost of goods sold of $240 per day per employee. You take home $80 per day per employee. (Forget capital costs, taxes et al for now) Everyone is happy. All is good, this is in fact within minor variation the way things work in the widget industry. But one day, a study comes out and you hear that OMG EMPLOYEES SPEND 2 HOURS PLAYING ANGRY BIRDS EVERY FREAKIN DAY! You of course know the answer. Those people work per hour and therefore, you say: clock out whenever you play angry-birds. They are honest people, so they do as you say. You still sell the same number of widgets, produce the same number of widgets but now, you pay out $20 less per worker per day. You take home $100 per worker per day now. Amazing! And then suddenly, you start finding your employees are leaving. I also produce widgets. In fact my business is identical to yours except I let my employees play Angry Birds 2 hours a day on company time. Boy am I stupid. You on the other hand know about the reserve army of the unemployed. But it turns out, when you interview people, you hear the same story. "I would have preferred to work for PrometheeFeu where they can play Angry Birds, but they wouldn't take me because I am too inexperienced/incompetent. But sure, I'll come and work for you." Of course, I didn't hire those people! They only make 24 widgets per day. So now, you are taking in $240 in cash, spending $125 in material and still $60 in labor for a profit of $55 per day per employee so now you are not "wasting" any money, but you are also making much less of it.
Of course, the numbers could change differently but the point is, the market has the equilibrium it has for a reason. The fact that employees can play Angry Birds, comment on TechDirt etc is part if their compensation package. It may not be written, it may not be official, but it is true. I work at a company that has a number of amenities. None of those are written in the contract, but if they removed said amenities, some of us might go work for competitors who still provide free lunches, pool tables and snacks. And this is the case at all levels. Your boss not being a jerk to you is compensation. Your bathroom breaks being on company time is compensation. If you think you can lower compensation without consequences, you are mistaken.
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I don't know what industry you are in, but I work in software. And in software, the companies that get the best engineers are the companies that pay well, but also and perhaps more importantly give their employees a pleasant work environment where people don't constantly stand over their shoulder making sure they are not day-dreaming, reading TechDirt or playing Angry Birds.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure that if I was a child being raped my distress would be with the fact that I was being raped and the pictured being taken. The fact that money changed hands in the production and distribution of pictures would be the least of my concerns. In fact, if law enforcement was to put stopping the exchange of the files for money higher on the priority list than rescuing me, I would find that deeply depressing.
So stop making arguments for non-profit child rape.
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