Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 29 Sep 2011 @ 12:00pm
Re: The reasonable reason
The reasonable reason for these laws is that once you have broken the digital lock for non-infringing purposes you now have the knowledge required to break it for infringing ones. If you add to this the fact that such knowledge, once acquired, tends to get passed around, then you can probably see the logic behind it.
That's not reasonable, even if you can follow the thought process behind it.
Having knowledge of something or how to do something is not illegal. How someone decides to make use of the knowledge (their action) is the factor.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 28 Sep 2011 @ 7:58am
Re: Re:
So what happens when copyright law has been so twisted by certain special interests that neither the authors/composers are benefiting, nor is the public benefiting?
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 23 Sep 2011 @ 3:30pm
Re: Re: Re: Well, now wait...
I think you're missing the point. That's exactly why the public gets to keep their own recordings as well. So if I record a cop beating up on a guy, and the cop's record vanishes, I still have my recording.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 20 Sep 2011 @ 1:33pm
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What is amazing here is all the comments and nobody seems to give a crap about liablity.
Yep, some of us no longer give a crap about "liability" because the concept has been corrupted by companies and lawyers in an effort to cover up the truth in whatever situation that word is being applied to. The real words we're looking for is "responsibility" and "fault."
"Liability" is the reason hair-dryers have warnings like "Do not use while showering." or packs of airplane peanuts say: "Warning, may contain nuts." and there's instructions on individual cheese slices to "Open here." So pardon me for not giving a crap about your corrupted concept of liability.
In this case, the city is responsible for multiple reasons. For not fixing a traffic light that repeatedly fails. For not budgeting enough to the police to have someone available for traffic duty. Ultimately it is the responsibility of the citizens, either for not paying enough in taxes to support the services they want, or allowing the taxes they pay to be wasted on other things, or for electing representatives who have voted for those things. But that's a difficult truth to accept, so we end up with a guy trying to help out get smacked because the city would be "liable" for exactly what they really are responsible for.
And then of course, we have the whole other idea of trying to apply liability to those who are in no way responsible. But that's for another story.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 20 Sep 2011 @ 7:19am
Re: Yeah, but any yahoo can also make money off infringement.
What's in a name?
Brand. Image. Recognition. History.
Let's put it in a way the IP lawyers can understand. The government has unilaterally seized a trademark. What if they decided to seize the name of Coca-cola and say the company could no longer use that?
Should the government have that power?
Brand is a powerful thing. Companies with good brands want to keep them in good standing in the minds of customers. Companies with tarnished brands want to get rid of them. If there's nothing in a name, why did Blackwater change it's name to Xe?
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 19 Sep 2011 @ 1:26pm
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Pyrrhic victory.
Fail. In order to call something a Pyrrhic victory, the side that "wins" has to have lost something considered a greater value than what was won. A political party going from having zero seats on the German parliament to having 15 can only be described as an Epic win.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 19 Sep 2011 @ 12:11pm
Report Everyone
Let's just take this to the inevitable conclusion and save a lot of time.
Report everyone to be investigated. That way no one can escape, and we'll figure out everything bad about everyone and can lock up everyone's who's ever done anything wrong.
Police, federal authorities, and private business all get to team up and inspect everything that everyone has ever done. We'll catch every terrorist and criminal because no one is exempt.
And then we'll be safe forever, because this is such a good idea and nothing could go wrong.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 19 Sep 2011 @ 11:49am
Re: Re: Oh, but this one is SO juicy! Calls for GLEE, indeed.
If anything, the University has shown mostly that what they need is more shelf space
So you want inefficient physical storage over cheap and abundant digital storage?
back on the shelf and promote it to the students and faculty.
You mean the students who are now reading their books on Kindles and iPads?
Perhaps getting one of the professors to add the book as reading material for a class might help?
Let's assume getting professors to add it as reading material, or that promoting it, are successful, and now people want to read it.
Where can they do so? The library only has 1 copy. There are 2 used copies on Amazon. For all we know, those 3 copies are the only ones in existence. The book being digitized would cheaply solve this problem. Is the Author's Guild going to do it? Of course they won't.
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Re:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110927/01281116105/no-internet-doesnt-do-away-with- middlemen-it-just-changes-their-role.shtml
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Re:
Surprise, right?
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Re: The reasonable reason
That's not reasonable, even if you can follow the thought process behind it.
Having knowledge of something or how to do something is not illegal. How someone decides to make use of the knowledge (their action) is the factor.
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Re: Re:
Because that's where we're at now.
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Re: my take..
Gutenberg printing press - around 1440.
16th century - estimated 200 million books copied with printing presses.
Statute of Anne - 1709.
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Since I got a smartphone, the entire internet is within reach practically 24/7.
Show us.
You first. You're big on talk, but never have you supplied evidence. Never. Not once. Put up or shut up.
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Re: Re: Re: Well, now wait...
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Re: What am I missing?
The problem with that is that from the article it mentions that a FISA Court is the source of the interpretation.
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Re: Re: Yes, but...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
I have never advocated violence here
Wait, aren't we discussing a post made by "Anonymous Coward" advocating violence?
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Re: Before you go wild with glee, /think/ about this:
And how many bands who are signed with labels ever get "recouped" and start showing a profit based on fucked up accounting?
Right. Almost none.
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Re:
Yep, some of us no longer give a crap about "liability" because the concept has been corrupted by companies and lawyers in an effort to cover up the truth in whatever situation that word is being applied to. The real words we're looking for is "responsibility" and "fault."
"Liability" is the reason hair-dryers have warnings like "Do not use while showering." or packs of airplane peanuts say: "Warning, may contain nuts." and there's instructions on individual cheese slices to "Open here." So pardon me for not giving a crap about your corrupted concept of liability.
In this case, the city is responsible for multiple reasons. For not fixing a traffic light that repeatedly fails. For not budgeting enough to the police to have someone available for traffic duty. Ultimately it is the responsibility of the citizens, either for not paying enough in taxes to support the services they want, or allowing the taxes they pay to be wasted on other things, or for electing representatives who have voted for those things. But that's a difficult truth to accept, so we end up with a guy trying to help out get smacked because the city would be "liable" for exactly what they really are responsible for.
And then of course, we have the whole other idea of trying to apply liability to those who are in no way responsible. But that's for another story.
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Re: Crazy
That's the only case I know of in which a major provider did anything quite this dumb.
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OLPC.com
How did they end up on this list? Did I miss them hosting a mirror or something?
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Re: Yeah, but any yahoo can also make money off infringement.
Brand. Image. Recognition. History.
Let's put it in a way the IP lawyers can understand. The government has unilaterally seized a trademark. What if they decided to seize the name of Coca-cola and say the company could no longer use that?
Should the government have that power?
Brand is a powerful thing. Companies with good brands want to keep them in good standing in the minds of customers. Companies with tarnished brands want to get rid of them. If there's nothing in a name, why did Blackwater change it's name to Xe?
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Re:
Fail. In order to call something a Pyrrhic victory, the side that "wins" has to have lost something considered a greater value than what was won. A political party going from having zero seats on the German parliament to having 15 can only be described as an Epic win.
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Report Everyone
Report everyone to be investigated. That way no one can escape, and we'll figure out everything bad about everyone and can lock up everyone's who's ever done anything wrong.
Police, federal authorities, and private business all get to team up and inspect everything that everyone has ever done. We'll catch every terrorist and criminal because no one is exempt.
And then we'll be safe forever, because this is such a good idea and nothing could go wrong.
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Re:
Although I agree and would like to see more of a parliamentarian system here.
*good is not synonymous with "better than the other guy" or "least worst" in this context.
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Re: Re: Oh, but this one is SO juicy! Calls for GLEE, indeed.
So you want inefficient physical storage over cheap and abundant digital storage?
back on the shelf and promote it to the students and faculty.
You mean the students who are now reading their books on Kindles and iPads?
Perhaps getting one of the professors to add the book as reading material for a class might help?
Let's assume getting professors to add it as reading material, or that promoting it, are successful, and now people want to read it.
Where can they do so? The library only has 1 copy. There are 2 used copies on Amazon. For all we know, those 3 copies are the only ones in existence. The book being digitized would cheaply solve this problem. Is the Author's Guild going to do it? Of course they won't.
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