I find this amusing because he doesn't really answer questions raised by the problems of SOPA, he says "it's the venture capitalists who don't like it because they'll make money unfairly", then he pulls a play out of Steven Tepp's playbook and just says "sit back, relax, and let Congress do all the work" when everyone and their mother is saying this is a bad idea!
The music industry has done quite well over the years. The recording industry has not as technology moved on without them.
I know you want people to believe that the CD will come back in style but it just isn't happening. Neither are contracts that are the bread and butter of the RIAA by putting up huge financial numbers for the CEOs. No, the industry is at least a little more fair by having the artists find new alternatives to the RIAA, ASCAP and the entire recording industry system.
And one other thing, while you are tilting at windmills with the SOPA FUD, it is only a matter of time before virtually all music piracy is removed from the interwebz due to closed-end systems and the unstoppable march towards all electronics being wireless
That is absolutely the FUNNIEST comment that is denying reality of all time.
Without knowing who the customer is, the service provider would certainly be taking more of a risk, and would have to act quickly to resolve the issue. Sort of like DMCA.
There's no way in hell that's like the DMCA. You're giving the DMCA an injection of steroids in having the damages so punitive and so disproportionate as to inconvenience people from various walks of life. You accuse a foreign website of being a rogue and before they have a chance to respond, their site is taken down. There's nothing that says that various AGs, without talking to one another, can't just send the same letter with a different signature and causing more litigious problems.
Hell, the domain seizure takedowns took away hip hop blogs that HAD authorization to the songs and are still fighting the government! So your logic in saying this is like the DMCA only not is BS.
Basically, just like DMCA, there is a right to respond.
Which goes right out the window when you're a foreigner.
Again, you're ignoring the fact that there is nothing compelling an AG to show due process. All that's occurring is an accusation before everything is pulled.
Yes, but the dividends on this regulatory capture are upwards to 22,000% return in tax savings. It must be tempting NOT to do this and learn how to compete.
Re: But Mike opposes "protecting [your] copyrighted material".
There are always other scarcities, such as DVDs, Tshirts, and other forms of media that can be created. You're not proving Mike wrong here, you're proving your own ignorance in the matter.
Marcus, the vast majority are in fact a very small, very vocal minority.
[citation needed]
Almost every post today, and every other post for a week on Techdirt has been SOPA this, SOPA that, and when you search, you find all the same people doing the same things.
So Visa being against this, along with Facebook, Twitter, Soundcloud, a growing number of representatives, and groups that represent consumer interests is a small but vocal minority? What planet are you on?
The other side I suspect is so freaking bafoozled by all the bullshit that they aren't even bothering to answer. It's such a crock of shit that pretty much nobody in Washington (except the wonderful Rand Paul) is stupid enough to buy it.
And now, the new point of attack is Ron Paul instead of Darrell Issa, Lofgren, or anyone else. Beautiful!
Can you even give us a link to the FULL legislation anywhere?
SEC. 103. MARKET-BASED SYSTEM TO PROTECT U.S. CUSTOMERS AND PREVENT U.S. FUNDING OF SITES DEDICATED TO THEFT OF U.S. PROPERTY.
(b) Denying U.S. Financial Support of Sites Dedicated to Theft of U.S. Property-
(1) PAYMENT NETWORK PROVIDERS- Except in the case of an effective counter notification pursuant to paragraph (5), a payment network provider shall take technically feasible and reasonable measures, as expeditiously as possible, but in any case within 5 days after delivery of a notification under paragraph (4), that are designed to prevent, prohibit, or suspend its service from completing payment transactions involving customers located within the United States and the Internet site, or portion thereof, that is specified in the notification under paragraph (4).
Wanna look less ignorant, chief? Stop taunting people to prove you wrong when you can't even find a copy of the bill.
What you're seeing is a very large reaction to 30 years of stagnant wages and the law used to suppress businesses.
The militarizationof the police is the wrong idea for this, but it's been coming to a head for quite some time. Now that the idea is exposed in how the police don't represent the communities they are supposed to protect, I'm sure people will be even more leery of governmental involvement in things such as copyright.
I'd like to think that the overall OWS movement will have ripple effects in copyright. You really can't differentiate the two. It's a human rights issue where the government is trying to censor expression. Think about how copyright has been used since the DMCA has been enforced. Large companies using the law have certainly abused it by trying to enforce high statutory damages against people. In the OWS movement, I'm sure the three strikes laws along with other measures to reign in the Occupiers will be put to the test. I don't see too many ways you can really differentiate the two movements building up without finding comparisons (or ad hom attacks in the case of trolls)
"It's incredibly frustrating when something that I've worked on is being used to other people's advantage"
Becky Mair - Editor VH1's Basketball Wives
So... Becky wants to use the story of Shaquille O' Neal without any regard to the other people that her story might influence. And yet, her show appears on VH1 free of charge to be watched and recorded through a Tivo or DVR.
"The theft is happening at such a level that major corporations are benefitting from it"
Keri Flint - Production Management
Then what the hell is Viacom doing and why aren't they paying you as much as your CEO?
I have to laugh at this. Their boss gets a raise and they're complaining about competition from overseas instead of figuring out ways to make their own attractions more appealing.
Where's the people that say "we need to make a cyberlocker of our own?" Where's the innovators in Viacom that have said "this is how we compete"? All I'm hearing is a bunch of whiners and defeatists that have given up the battle and don't even know how to fight. They show a picture of the dolls and products that they sell, but I have no way of knowing how they compete in different markets. I don't know the Competitive Price Points if they sell in China nor do I know the economics of their situation.
And I'm supposed to feel sympathy because people feel like their website is either outdated or they have no way of showing off their work? WTF?
The logic train is truly derailed with this video.
What percentage of the population that currently infringes will adopt these workaround solutions that you cite? I doubt more than 20%.
How much piracy actually goes on right now? How much will it increase from this bad legislation?
And its a pretty small market space for a rogue payment processor to operate given what it would need to do to capture the market and fend off regulatory attacks.
And let's play "dodge all the inquiries given to make up a random number and minimize the points said". You get an A+ for not understanding what's going to happen and ignoring basic economic principles. Good job. Keep dreaming that this will put any kind of dent in piracy though.
That's a pretty effective double standard they seem to have. The EU wants to punish US businesses with their laws, which they've done before, in order to send a message to the US.
While I honestly respect that they have better privacy than what our judges seem to advocate, it seems to me that we should criticize the laws that make Twitter need to collect information in the first place.
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I know you want people to believe that the CD will come back in style but it just isn't happening. Neither are contracts that are the bread and butter of the RIAA by putting up huge financial numbers for the CEOs. No, the industry is at least a little more fair by having the artists find new alternatives to the RIAA, ASCAP and the entire recording industry system.
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That is absolutely the FUNNIEST comment that is denying reality of all time.
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There's no way in hell that's like the DMCA. You're giving the DMCA an injection of steroids in having the damages so punitive and so disproportionate as to inconvenience people from various walks of life. You accuse a foreign website of being a rogue and before they have a chance to respond, their site is taken down. There's nothing that says that various AGs, without talking to one another, can't just send the same letter with a different signature and causing more litigious problems.
Hell, the domain seizure takedowns took away hip hop blogs that HAD authorization to the songs and are still fighting the government! So your logic in saying this is like the DMCA only not is BS.
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Which goes right out the window when you're a foreigner.
Again, you're ignoring the fact that there is nothing compelling an AG to show due process. All that's occurring is an accusation before everything is pulled.
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Re: But Mike opposes "protecting [your] copyrighted material".
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[citation needed]
Almost every post today, and every other post for a week on Techdirt has been SOPA this, SOPA that, and when you search, you find all the same people doing the same things.
So Visa being against this, along with Facebook, Twitter, Soundcloud, a growing number of representatives, and groups that represent consumer interests is a small but vocal minority? What planet are you on?
The other side I suspect is so freaking bafoozled by all the bullshit that they aren't even bothering to answer. It's such a crock of shit that pretty much nobody in Washington (except the wonderful Rand Paul) is stupid enough to buy it.
And now, the new point of attack is Ron Paul instead of Darrell Issa, Lofgren, or anyone else. Beautiful!
Can you even give us a link to the FULL legislation anywhere?
That's easy
SEC. 103. MARKET-BASED SYSTEM TO PROTECT U.S. CUSTOMERS AND PREVENT U.S. FUNDING OF SITES DEDICATED TO THEFT OF U.S. PROPERTY.
(b) Denying U.S. Financial Support of Sites Dedicated to Theft of U.S. Property-
(1) PAYMENT NETWORK PROVIDERS- Except in the case of an effective counter notification pursuant to paragraph (5), a payment network provider shall take technically feasible and reasonable measures, as expeditiously as possible, but in any case within 5 days after delivery of a notification under paragraph (4), that are designed to prevent, prohibit, or suspend its service from completing payment transactions involving customers located within the United States and the Internet site, or portion thereof, that is specified in the notification under paragraph (4).
Wanna look less ignorant, chief? Stop taunting people to prove you wrong when you can't even find a copy of the bill.
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Re: Re: OK, It's official
And Electoral College Part 1
The trouble with the Electoral College (Part 2) - or "How you can be elected President with 22% of the vote."
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The militarizationof the police is the wrong idea for this, but it's been coming to a head for quite some time. Now that the idea is exposed in how the police don't represent the communities they are supposed to protect, I'm sure people will be even more leery of governmental involvement in things such as copyright.
I'd like to think that the overall OWS movement will have ripple effects in copyright. You really can't differentiate the two. It's a human rights issue where the government is trying to censor expression. Think about how copyright has been used since the DMCA has been enforced. Large companies using the law have certainly abused it by trying to enforce high statutory damages against people. In the OWS movement, I'm sure the three strikes laws along with other measures to reign in the Occupiers will be put to the test. I don't see too many ways you can really differentiate the two movements building up without finding comparisons (or ad hom attacks in the case of trolls)
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This can be summed up in three words.
I'm RICH, BIATCH!
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The hypocrisy...
Becky Mair - Editor VH1's Basketball Wives
So... Becky wants to use the story of Shaquille O' Neal without any regard to the other people that her story might influence. And yet, her show appears on VH1 free of charge to be watched and recorded through a Tivo or DVR.
"The theft is happening at such a level that major corporations are benefitting from it"
Keri Flint - Production Management
Then what the hell is Viacom doing and why aren't they paying you as much as your CEO?
I have to laugh at this. Their boss gets a raise and they're complaining about competition from overseas instead of figuring out ways to make their own attractions more appealing.
Where's the people that say "we need to make a cyberlocker of our own?" Where's the innovators in Viacom that have said "this is how we compete"? All I'm hearing is a bunch of whiners and defeatists that have given up the battle and don't even know how to fight. They show a picture of the dolls and products that they sell, but I have no way of knowing how they compete in different markets. I don't know the Competitive Price Points if they sell in China nor do I know the economics of their situation.
And I'm supposed to feel sympathy because people feel like their website is either outdated or they have no way of showing off their work? WTF?
The logic train is truly derailed with this video.
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Re: Past time to throw the bums out
We need a better system that allows more people to vote and represent their constituents instead of the safe voting methods we currently have.
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What percentage of the population that currently infringes will adopt these workaround solutions that you cite? I doubt more than 20%.
How much piracy actually goes on right now? How much will it increase from this bad legislation?
And its a pretty small market space for a rogue payment processor to operate given what it would need to do to capture the market and fend off regulatory attacks.
And let's play "dodge all the inquiries given to make up a random number and minimize the points said". You get an A+ for not understanding what's going to happen and ignoring basic economic principles. Good job. Keep dreaming that this will put any kind of dent in piracy though.
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Double standards...
While I honestly respect that they have better privacy than what our judges seem to advocate, it seems to me that we should criticize the laws that make Twitter need to collect information in the first place.
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