VP Joe Biden Explains Why SOPA & PROTECT IP Are Anti-American & A Bad Idea
from the good-for-him dept
A couple of weeks ago, Joe Biden gave a perfect, if unintended, explanation for why SOPA and PROTECT IP are such terrible ideas. Since his speech included a bunch of other things, we thought it would be good to highlight Biden's specific arguments that explain why SOPA and PROTECT IP are bad, and to give him kudos for making such statements, since they contradict the statements from Hollywood on this bill.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Filed Under: copyright, innovation, internet freedom, joe biden, protect ip, sopa
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Waiting... waiting....
(I expect failure as Mike goes all out to discredit SOPA).
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Reminds me of the video where "Governor" Bush argues against "President" Bush.
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Sorry Masnick, but if your dorky tech buddies can't make money unless it's off of illegal infringement, then they need to adapt and find a better business model.
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illegal != immoral
fighting a bill != illegal
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at whiningaboutSOPA guy
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That was awesome!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-castle/on-rogue-websites-legisla_b_1080543.html
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That link though; whoa! Could hardly stumble thru the arrogant shilling of the second paragraph without vomiting. Wow.
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The irony is strong with this one.
Just goes to show that you can pretend anything is the truth if you say it loudly enough.
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I'll take "Examples of Libel on the Internet" again for $400 please, Alex.
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I think that the OWS people are pretty much on par with the SOPA opposition. They would love us to think that they are the 99%, that they are some sort of grassroots thing, but in reality, neither of them are.
When you look at all of the SOPA opposition Mike points to, it seems to keep coming up with the same short list of players. Many of the "groups" are just EFF wannabes, lead by a very small group of people who don't really seem to represent anything except themselves and a few of their friends. They act all like grassroots movements, but really they are just another collection of opinionated people with the balls to claim that they speak for the rest of us (they don't).
Almost without exception, these "groups" all point to the same videos, and all use the same speaking points.
Their level of desperation is high enough that, like in his post, they are willing to misrepresent what a high government official says, in order to make their points. Biden isn't speaking about allowing piracy or supporting widespread illegal activities on the net, he is discussing freer speech in countries that just don't have it.
What Mike, the EFF, and their tag along groups have done is try to shift the debate away from piracy, and on to "free speech". They are seemingly willing to ignore piracy, and instead want to look at exception cases on the edge to try to define some harm. News for you guys, there is plenty of harm in the middle, where the music industry has been decimated by piracy, and the movie industry is next up for some serious hurting.
So enjoy setting up and knocking down your strawmen. In the end, you will be tagged as the supporters of piracy, and you won't be able to shake that tag.
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And what exactly is that supposed to mean, beyond carrying around an "unshakeable" tag? Does your vision of a post-SOPA world come with some sort of Scarlet Letter-esque public shaming of quote/enquote piracy supporters?
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Add me to that list.
the music industry has been decimated by piracy
I think you mean the recording industry - they're not the same.
Biden isn't speaking about allowing piracy or supporting widespread illegal activities on the net
Neither are we.
he is discussing freer speech in countries that just don't have it.
Amen. His plea is also that governments don't do anything to curtail that speech.
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I'm sure you'd love to back in time when they weren't, but that isn't going to happen.
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I know you want people to believe that the CD will come back in style but it just isn't happening. Neither are contracts that are the bread and butter of the RIAA by putting up huge financial numbers for the CEOs. No, the industry is at least a little more fair by having the artists find new alternatives to the RIAA, ASCAP and the entire recording industry system.
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Nope, I mean the music industry.
58% of the recorded music sales (including itunes and all the online stuff) has disappeared in 10 years. Concert sales are dropping, ticket prices are going through the roof, and everyone already has a closet full of t-shirts they aren't wearing. The number of live venues isn't growing, but the number of acts attempting to play in them has gone up as everyone has become an "artist".
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Sounds like real "progress".
Fucking idiot.
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Either they get inifinite money for sitting at home alll dayx, or I'm taking my big retarded ball of idiot music execs and going home. And you poopyheads won't get any of our music at all!
Response from world: good riddance
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Hope he does. Then I'll say he's responsible for the "unadulterated theft" of common sense.
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http://torrentfreak.com/artists-sue-cbs-cnet-for-profiting-from-piracy-111115/
Those kind of artists are such a bunch of whiners.
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What amazes me
....Now back to your discussion.....
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I do not think they actually read my letter.
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This is Biden, right?
(Say -- is he really the best person to talk about "stealing" people's ideas?)
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THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!
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Joe biden video
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