What is interesting too is everyone is so concerned about net neutrality mainly because of Netflix but the funny thing is that Netflix uses a protocol that is low priority. The highest priority is TCP which requires every packet send back an acknowledgement that it was received or it sends it again. This makes no sense with streaming because if a packet doesn't make it it is too late. Plus the protocol does not require every packet to be received to run the program. If anything you may lose a pixel of two. Netflix uses a protocol that has a "Best effort" protocol which is lower priority. So net neutrality will actually have no net benefit at all in streaming.
All you net neutrality people need a little education on how the Internet works.
The Internet is not like the public highway system where anyone who wants to ride the Freeway or any public road can regardless of whether you drive a beater or a Lamborghini. The Internet is a patchwork of thousands of private networks. Some networks owned by the big players are called backbone networks and they handle a lot of the traffic but they only take you part of the way.
Go to your command prompt or terminal and type in traceroute followed by a url. You will see how many networks it took to get to your destination. I did >traceroute youtube.com. I got 10 different networks that were traversed before it got to youtube.com
When you make a request to a server the request and the result of that request can traverse many networks to get to the server that hosts the information. These networks have cooperative agreements with other networks to allow traffic to go through them in return they get reciprocated with their traffic. When one network gets overloaded they cut off through traffic and the packets get rerouted someplace else that can handle the traffic. Sometimes there is no other option so the network has to throttle some traffic to handle the load. This is going to jeopardize this cooperation since they will want to protect their own traffic. The Internet cannot work without Inter network cooperation. If all networks circle the wagons nothing will get in or out and we will be left with thousands of private networks that can only talk to itself.
Why net neutrality will hurt and slow everyone down is because Networks will not be able to manage their networks based on the priority of the traffic so the result will be more traffic on their systems which means they will have to throttle Everyone to handle it. The result is it will take longer to receive packets and with streaming services such as Netflix it means you will see more of the dreaded buffering especially at night when most people want to watch Netflix.
Internet users will rue this day. Net Neutrality was the Trojan Horse. The FCC now has full authority to regulate every aspect of the Internet. They can apply fees and taxes, They can require all website owners to register with the government. They could even apply a fairness doctrine on the Internet.
It may not happen today or tomorrow but once a regulation system is in place it will grow.
Only a short time ago the thought of a government takeover of the Internet would have caused a massive movement against it from the Internet and tech communities. The Internet and tech communities that defeated SOPA, and PIPA have been lulled to sleep and in many cases welcome the takeover with thunderous applause.
The FCC is doing this all in secret with no public input. Just like Obamacare, we won't know what is in it until they pass it and by then it will be far too late.
Net Neutrality is the Trojan Horse the Obama Administration is using to take control of the Internet. The FCC is about to vote to make the Internet subject to Title II under the Telecommunications Act. An act that is 80 years old and is ill equipped to address issues of Today's Internet but gives the FCC far sweeping power to regulate without Congressional oversight or public accountability. What Title II does is allow Monopolies to exist but regulates them in return. Regulations that will bar any new comers from popping up and keep the existing players as the only players for decades to come. The FCC by law is an independent agency and does not have to answer to the Congress or the White House for their actions.
Like the idea of Google Fiber? Say goodbye to it unless you are lucky enough to already have it. The Internet of tomorrow will require a lot more bandwidth than we have today but regulations will slow that process to a crawl and with it all the benefits we will now wait longer to receive. All so we can get our Netflix which we were never denied anyway.
Wake up people. Tomorrow may be the last day the Internet exists as we have known it.
A long, long time ago I can still remember how the Internet made me smile And we knew if we had a chance We could really make the net advance And maybe it would be free for awhile
But February made me shiver With every story it delivered Bad news on my Facebook I couldn't take one more look
I can't remember if I cried When I read how the FCC lied But something touched me deep inside The day the Internet died
[Chorus] So bye-bye, This American pride Tried to get on Netflix but my connection was dry And the FCC were drinking whisky and rye Singin' "This'll be the day the net died” “This will be the day the net died.
This is about net neutrality like the Affordable health- care act was about affordable health-care. This is the nationalization of the Internet and imposing government control.
Obama has been in the thick of this. The chairman is Obama's man. So we have 300 pages to tell ISPs they cannot throttle traffic and must treat all packets equally?
Just like TPP this is being passed in secret with no public input. We will not know what is in this till it is already implemented.
Oh please people please wake up. The FCC and Obama is doing this in secret. We have no idea what is in this. It is just like TPP. It is all being done out of our sight.
As with Obamacare it is going to have to be passed before we know what is in it and probably will not know until we see the effects.
What Obama means with Net Nuetrality in not what we think as Net Neutrality.
Maybe because the RIAA and MPAA is constantly at war with tech and wants to control it.
Both the recording and movie industries combined amount to no more than 100 billion dollars while the tech industry is a multi-trillion dollar industry.
The relatively small recording and movie industry wants control and veto power over the tech industry.
Dead people need no incentives to write books so copyrights beyond death is a disincentive for more works. It is really just a way for non creative to leach on to someone else's work and keep others from expanding it.
Maybe they will actually have to get jobs now rather than feeding off of someone else's work or maybe they could actually start earning the money for once by writing their own versions of Sherlock Holmes. Anything they write would be copyrighted but only the new stories themselves and not the characters.
Is Disney purposefully trying to destroy digital distribution? This severely undermines digital distribution if people cannot be confident they will have access to the movies they buy.
It looks like a class-action lawsuit is in order here.
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Re: Educating on how the Internet Works
Netflix uses a protocol that has a "Best effort" protocol which is lower priority. So net neutrality will actually have no net benefit at all in streaming.
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Educating on how the Internet Works
The Internet is not like the public highway system where anyone who wants to ride the Freeway or any public road can regardless of whether
you drive a beater or a Lamborghini. The Internet is a patchwork of thousands of private networks. Some networks owned
by the big players are called backbone networks and they handle a lot of the traffic but they only take you part of the way.
Go to your command prompt or terminal and type in traceroute followed by a url. You will see how many networks it took to get to your
destination. I did >traceroute youtube.com. I got 10 different networks that were traversed before it got to youtube.com
When you make a request to a server the request and the result of that request can traverse many networks to get
to the server that hosts the information. These networks have cooperative agreements with other networks to allow traffic
to go through them in return they get reciprocated with their traffic. When one network gets overloaded they cut off through traffic and the
packets get rerouted someplace else that can handle the traffic. Sometimes there is no other option so the network has to
throttle some traffic to handle the load. This is going to jeopardize this cooperation since they will want to protect their own
traffic. The Internet cannot work without Inter network cooperation. If all networks circle the wagons nothing will get in or out
and we will be left with thousands of private networks that can only talk to itself.
Why net neutrality will hurt and slow everyone down is because Networks will not be able to manage their networks based
on the priority of the traffic so the result will be more traffic on their systems which means they will have to throttle
Everyone to handle it. The result is it will take longer to receive packets and with streaming services such as Netflix it means you will see more of the dreaded buffering especially at night when most people want to watch Netflix.
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Re: Hear that Sound?
It may not happen today or tomorrow but once a regulation system is in place it will grow.
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Re: Re:
The FCC is doing this all in secret with no public input. Just like Obamacare, we won't know what is in it until they pass it and by then it will be far too late.
Net Neutrality is the Trojan Horse the Obama Administration is using to take control of the Internet. The FCC is about to vote to make the Internet subject to Title II under the Telecommunications Act. An act that is 80 years old and is ill equipped to address issues of Today's Internet but gives the FCC far sweeping power to regulate without Congressional oversight or public accountability. What Title II does is allow Monopolies to exist but regulates them in return. Regulations that will bar any new comers from popping up and keep the existing players as the only players for decades to come. The FCC by law is an independent agency and does not have to answer to the Congress or the White House for their actions.
Like the idea of Google Fiber? Say goodbye to it unless you are lucky enough to already have it. The Internet of tomorrow will require a lot more bandwidth than we have today but regulations will slow that process to a crawl and with it all the benefits we will now wait longer to receive. All so we can get our Netflix which we were never denied anyway.
Wake up people. Tomorrow may be the last day the Internet exists as we have known it.
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Re: Re: Secrecy is never good
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Day the Internet Died
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Secrecy is never good
FCC negotiating and voting in secret = good?
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Re: Re: Re: The Day the Internet Died
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Re: Don't cheer just yet
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Re: The Day the Internet Died
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The Day the Internet Died
I can still remember how the Internet made me smile
And we knew if we had a chance
We could really make the net advance
And maybe it would be free for awhile
But February made me shiver
With every story it delivered
Bad news on my Facebook
I couldn't take one more look
I can't remember if I cried
When I read how the FCC lied
But something touched me deep inside
The day the Internet died
[Chorus]
So bye-bye, This American pride
Tried to get on Netflix but my connection was dry
And the FCC were drinking whisky and rye
Singin' "This'll be the day the net died”
“This will be the day the net died.
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Re: Almost funny
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Re: Re: We are being hoodwinked
Just like TPP this is being passed in secret with no public input. We will not know what is in this till it is already implemented.
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We are being hoodwinked
As with Obamacare it is going to have to be passed before we know what is in it and probably will not know until we see the effects.
What Obama means with Net Nuetrality in not what we think as Net Neutrality.
We are all being howdwinked.
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Both the recording and movie industries combined amount to no more than 100 billion dollars while the tech industry is a multi-trillion dollar industry.
The relatively small recording and movie industry wants control and veto power over the tech industry.
That is why there is animosity.
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Dead people need no incentives
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They may have to get jobs now.
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This happens all the time in dictatorships
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This is double theft
Not only is the customer out the money but also use of the product they bought.
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Disney undermining digital distribution
It looks like a class-action lawsuit is in order here.
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