Bill and Hillary what a jolly old band Watch them lie with the stroke of a hand Listen closely and you will hear They sound the same, that is quite clear
The thing is we could have gotten Net Neutrality without using the nuclear option. We could have used the threat of FCC regulations as leverage to get ISPs to voluntarily agree to Net Neutrality.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
I disagree Mike. The regulation genie is now out of the bottle. He may have given you your wish but as always the wish is never what the wisher expected and ends up being a curse.
There is no way net neutrality is going to be the only thing the FCC tinkers with now that they have phenomenal cosmic powers in an Itty bitty living space!
Re: FCC Net Neutrality backers neutralizes their own arguments against TPP
No I am not overreaching. Lets say for instance when TPP is really being debated and considered by the Senate we all bring up how it was negotiated in secret and it was not subject to public scrutiny. The backers of TPP will say you had no problem with secrecy and no public scrutiny for FCC and net neutrality. That argument will now fall flat because of your inconsistency.
FCC Net Neutrality backers neutralizes their own arguments against TPP
The best arguments that opponents of TPP had have now been neutralized by those who backed the FCC action on Net Neutrality. TPP Opponents have complained about the secrecy, lack of public input, corporate access to negotiators, the potential harm to the Internet infrastructure and freedom of speech. It has now been rendered mute by FCC Backers completely ignoring these same issues with the FCC and not only that but making excuses for why one is wrong in one situation but ok in another.
TPP opponents who supported FCC actions have severely hobbled themselves and will find it difficult if not impossible to make their case against TPP now. YOU have made TPP is practically a foregone conclusion now because of YOUR efforts.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
Regulation is a subset of control and their are aspects of regulation that do control. It controls competition, it controls growth, it controls innovation and incentive. So yes regulations does not mean direct control but absolutely it means indirect control and the effects are seldom good.
Competition is self regulating and rewards those who do well and punishes those who do poorly. It is natural regulations as apposed to government regulation which is a poor substitute.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
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We conservatives have fought a long and losing battle about maintaining the original intent of any law or regulation. Fact is introducing any regulations regime is like a letting a genie out of the bottle. Once out they give you your initial wish and then become unpredictable and uncontrollable. You can never get the genie back in the bottle.
In fact the very analogy of a genie is be careful what you wish for because they ALWAYS come with unintended consequences and the consequences cannot be undone.
FCC scope creep is coming. We don't even know yest what we are even getting.
Remember income tax was sold as something temporary and the government would always keep them low. it was for the war you know.
Title II under the Telecommunications Act does not require net neutrality or prohibit fast lanes and paid prioritization. In fact the law allows for fast lanes and paid prioritization it just cannot be discriminatory. In other words Comcast can offer fast lane service but it has to offer it to anyone who can afford to pay the extra fee. it just like an airline can offer First Class but they have to offer it to anyone who can pay for the First Class fare. They just cannot make exclusive deals.
It is interesting that the RIAA/MPAA strong armed ISPs with the help of the Obama Administration into becoming copyright cops but we could not have used some pressure the ISPs into voluntarily adopting net neutrality principles.
Obama was all gung-ho and used the full force of his administration to get ISPs to police copyrights but had no interest at all in doing the same thing to get ISPs to voluntarily adopt net neutrality. Rather he went the government takeover route. Hmmm wonder why?
There are certain protocols used by the Internet to set priority for traffic. There is QoS (Quality of Service) and COS (Class of Service). These are part of the network protocols are are essential to operate the Internet smoothly and not bog it down. These prioritize traffic based on the nature or importance of the traffic. Net Neutrality is a small part of this and actually has little effect on the Internet and will not change QoS or Cos which means in reality Net Neutrality is mainly a marketing term. Sad something so insignificant has now resulted in the government taking over the Internet.
There are certain protocols used by the Internet to set priority for traffic. There is QoS (Quality of Service) and COS (Class of Service). These are part of the network protocols are are essential to operate the Internet smoothly and not bog it down. These prioritize traffic based on the nature or importance of the traffic. Net Neutrality is a small part of this and actually has little effect on the Internet and will not change QoS or Cos which means in reality Net Neutrality is mainly a marketing term. Sad something so insignificant has now resulted in the government taking over the Internet.
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Bill and Hillary ~ I did not....
Watch them lie with the stroke of a hand
Listen closely and you will hear
They sound the same, that is quite clear
https://youtu.be/ROU4Be7PojY
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Re: Netflix now having second thoughts
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Netflix now having second thoughts
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/234628-netflix-seems-to-change-tune-on-web-rules
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FCC Rules go far beyond Net Neutrality
http://watchdog.org/203631/fcc-commissioners-regulations/
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Re: Re: Re: FCC Net Neutrality backers neutralizes their own arguments against TPP
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
There is no way net neutrality is going to be the only thing the FCC tinkers with now that they have phenomenal cosmic powers in an Itty bitty living space!
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Re: FCC Net Neutrality backers neutralizes their own arguments against TPP
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FCC Net Neutrality backers neutralizes their own arguments against TPP
TPP opponents who supported FCC actions have severely hobbled themselves and will find it difficult if not impossible to make their case against TPP now. YOU have made TPP is practically a foregone conclusion now because of YOUR efforts.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
Competition is self regulating and rewards those who do well and punishes those who do poorly. It is natural regulations as apposed to government regulation which is a poor substitute.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
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Re:
On the post: Breaking: House Judiciary Committee Tells FCC It's Going To Block Net Neutrality Rules
Re: Re: Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
We conservatives have fought a long and losing battle about maintaining the original intent of any law or regulation. Fact is introducing any regulations regime is like a letting a genie out of the bottle. Once out they give you your initial wish and then become unpredictable and uncontrollable. You can never get the genie back in the bottle.
In fact the very analogy of a genie is be careful what you wish for because they ALWAYS come with unintended consequences and the consequences cannot be undone.
FCC scope creep is coming. We don't even know yest what we are even getting.
Remember income tax was sold as something temporary and the government would always keep them low. it was for the war you know.
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Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
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Re: Re: Title II does not create net neutrality.
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Title II does not create net neutrality.
http://www.techpolicydaily.com/communications/title-ii-prohibit-paid-prioritization/
So putting the Internet on Title II will not do what the backers thought it would do. It does not create net neutrality but actually codifies in law Internet companies right to offer fast lane paid prioritization.
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Re: Government takeover was unnecessary
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Government takeover was unnecessary
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