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@art guerrilla (profile), Aug 31st, 2013 @ 4:01am
Logic, twisted by the sin in man is no help. You cant win an argument and convince people to believe. Just as you cant win some point and make me not believe. All you are doing is making it harder to admi you are the sinner and there is only one way off the path to hell..
All people are sinners. Repent of your sins today. Trust in Christs work of redemption.
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@That One Guy (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 10:30pm
Keep arguing and trying to find a way off of the path to hell. But there is only one way. Repent of your sins today. You cant dictate to God what you want or argue against His plan and hope to win.
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@That One Guy (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 10:25pm
You seem to be under some strange idea that this is a debate and you can win it. All you have to do is stick to some so called facts and you can win the battle of faith. That you can avoid the fact that all people are sinners and eventually if they die in their sins they will go to hell.
I dont have to prove anything to you. I dont have to win any debate. Faith isnt won in a debate. No one can make you believe by winning an argument in which you continue to resist one simple fact. All have sinned.
So go ahead and fill up pages of arguments. All that will happen is I will still believe and if you do not repent you will go to hell.
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@art guerrilla (profile), Aug 31st, 2013 @ 3:48am
I was wondering when someone would pull out a part of scripture, out of context and try and use it. Your quote is meant to teach against hypocrisy. Not a rule to never point out the sin of others and call them to repent. You also seem to not have read the posts where I call myself a sinner, which I am. All men are sinners. Only Christians have repented of the sin we do, and trust in Christs work of redemption.
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@That One Guy (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 7:57pm
That isnt an argument designed win some sort of discussion but a warning. You cant by facts convince someone to believe of not to believe. Your continued denial of this is interesting in that you continue to put forth more of them.
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@That One Guy (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 4:11pm
I am well aware I am most likely dealing with sin hardened adults who are on the road to hell of their own choosing. Perhaps one will be converted down the road after God has used the law over time. Sometimes its not one chop of an ax that cuts down the tree but a thousand little cuts.
After all I was thinking close to the same thing in my 30's, living a life full of sin, but the Lord guided me back to the church.
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No what it is is the sinful mind of man trying to use its sin corrupted reason in an attempt to ignore the path to hell they are on.
Faith is not facts and it isnt something generated by arguing with someone trying to convince a hardened hart to believe. Sadly you may never believe and if you have committed even one sin in your life you will pay the ultimate price for all eternity. Repent now before you die in your sins.
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What I am not going to get into is an argument of so called facts with you. I am not here to convince you that God exists. I am not here to engage you in some battle of wits where you try to box me into a corner and say that you are right in the end because of some tally of factual points.
Faith cannot be gained by debating facts with someone who does not want to believe but stubbornly resists God.I am here but to warn you of the path I see you on. If you choose to resist God and stay on the road to hell you will end up there. Repent of your sins before its to late.
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You cant receive something from someone you deny exists. You deny the gift when you deny the existence of God who wants to give it to you. There is no ultimatum. You cant make yourself believe in God. It isn't just saying "I Believe" There is no magic words to save you from the sin we all commit. You actually have to believe, and for some people they have hardened their harts so much they may never believe.
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@That One Guy (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 3:58pm
Yet another person who thinks they can win some kind of argument and prove that God does not exist. Your wasting your time.
You wont spend any part of eternity near God, but in the torments of Hell. Thats what we all deserve because of the sin we do.
There is no work or price asked of God, only that you accept that he is there and has paid the price for your sin. By denying that He exists you deny what He has done for you. After all you cant receive something from someone you say doesn't exist. Faith receives what God offers to sinful mankind.
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But I havent suggested any such thing, that seeming is only in your own mind.
Dont think this is some mental exorcise that can be won by a battle of facts, faith is not facts. Thats so called science that is full of things taken on faith because they cant be proven or demonstrated.
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@AzureSky (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 1:42pm
No one can make themselves believe something like that. What you are describing is hypocrisy.
If you look someplace on the bord I replied that yet again my words were twisted to make them mean something other than I intended. I never said someone can make themselves believe something. It isnt a magic incantation that someone says "I believe" and everything is ok. The really have to believe it.
The words were not put down to try and convince anyone of anything. They were simply put down to show that if I am wrong in the end I dont have much to fear from being wrong. On the other hand if the atheist is wrong they have eternal agony to look forward to.
That wasnt some logical argument to try and convince someone that they need to do the work of believing and they should on the basis of my words somehow have faith through fear. Faith does not work that way.
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@Dark Helmet (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 2:37pm
No one is discussing violent acts, but thanks for yet another misuse of reason. To say that a Christian speaking against sin is the same as violent acts by a Muslim is comparing apples to oranges.
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@AzureSky (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 1:35pm
I have read it through a number of times, and studied in a seminary for 3 years. I am still a Christian.
Logic can be a tool of the devil who makes some people believe that they are smarter than they are. Remember pride commes before a fall.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is not some facts that can be proved to someone. You cant convince someone to believe in God with facts. That just plays into the hands of an atheist who thinks everything must be seen and proved or else they will not believe it. But it isnt my role to prove to you anything. I cant make you believe, I cant make you do anything.
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@AzureSky (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 1:38pm
Then they are not Christians for a true Christian would pray for your conversion and follow this passage.
Instead, "If your enemies are hungry, feed them. If they are thirsty, give them something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals of shame on their heads."*
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More factual questions designed to keep you in your sin and on the road to hell.
All men are sinners. Repent today and trust in Christs work of redemption.
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Logic, twisted by the sin in man is no help. You cant win an argument and convince people to believe. Just as you cant win some point and make me not believe. All you are doing is making it harder to admi you are the sinner and there is only one way off the path to hell..
All people are sinners. Repent of your sins today. Trust in Christs work of redemption.
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Keep arguing and trying to find a way off of the path to hell. But there is only one way. Repent of your sins today. You cant dictate to God what you want or argue against His plan and hope to win.
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You seem to be under some strange idea that this is a debate and you can win it. All you have to do is stick to some so called facts and you can win the battle of faith. That you can avoid the fact that all people are sinners and eventually if they die in their sins they will go to hell.
I dont have to prove anything to you. I dont have to win any debate. Faith isnt won in a debate. No one can make you believe by winning an argument in which you continue to resist one simple fact. All have sinned.
So go ahead and fill up pages of arguments. All that will happen is I will still believe and if you do not repent you will go to hell.
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Repent of your sins today.
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I was wondering when someone would pull out a part of scripture, out of context and try and use it. Your quote is meant to teach against hypocrisy. Not a rule to never point out the sin of others and call them to repent. You also seem to not have read the posts where I call myself a sinner, which I am. All men are sinners. Only Christians have repented of the sin we do, and trust in Christs work of redemption.
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That isnt an argument designed win some sort of discussion but a warning. You cant by facts convince someone to believe of not to believe. Your continued denial of this is interesting in that you continue to put forth more of them.
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You appear to be yet another sinner who thinks they can win some sort of debate and feel better while living in sin. Repent now.
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I am well aware I am most likely dealing with sin hardened adults who are on the road to hell of their own choosing. Perhaps one will be converted down the road after God has used the law over time. Sometimes its not one chop of an ax that cuts down the tree but a thousand little cuts.
After all I was thinking close to the same thing in my 30's, living a life full of sin, but the Lord guided me back to the church.
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Faith is not facts and it isnt something generated by arguing with someone trying to convince a hardened hart to believe. Sadly you may never believe and if you have committed even one sin in your life you will pay the ultimate price for all eternity. Repent now before you die in your sins.
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Faith cannot be gained by debating facts with someone who does not want to believe but stubbornly resists God.I am here but to warn you of the path I see you on. If you choose to resist God and stay on the road to hell you will end up there. Repent of your sins before its to late.
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That would be an intentional sin. People who intentionally sin are not Christians, they are hypocrites.
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Yet another person who thinks they can win some kind of argument and prove that God does not exist. Your wasting your time.
You wont spend any part of eternity near God, but in the torments of Hell. Thats what we all deserve because of the sin we do.
There is no work or price asked of God, only that you accept that he is there and has paid the price for your sin. By denying that He exists you deny what He has done for you. After all you cant receive something from someone you say doesn't exist. Faith receives what God offers to sinful mankind.
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Dont think this is some mental exorcise that can be won by a battle of facts, faith is not facts. Thats so called science that is full of things taken on faith because they cant be proven or demonstrated.
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If you really put faith in those words and you are not simply posting them because they sound good and you hope they make you look good on a forum.
Well, I feel sorry for you and I will pray that you become a Christian before you die and burn in hell for all eternity.
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No one can make themselves believe something like that. What you are describing is hypocrisy.
If you look someplace on the bord I replied that yet again my words were twisted to make them mean something other than I intended. I never said someone can make themselves believe something. It isnt a magic incantation that someone says "I believe" and everything is ok. The really have to believe it.
The words were not put down to try and convince anyone of anything. They were simply put down to show that if I am wrong in the end I dont have much to fear from being wrong. On the other hand if the atheist is wrong they have eternal agony to look forward to.
That wasnt some logical argument to try and convince someone that they need to do the work of believing and they should on the basis of my words somehow have faith through fear. Faith does not work that way.
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No one is discussing violent acts, but thanks for yet another misuse of reason. To say that a Christian speaking against sin is the same as violent acts by a Muslim is comparing apples to oranges.
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I have read it through a number of times, and studied in a seminary for 3 years. I am still a Christian.
Logic can be a tool of the devil who makes some people believe that they are smarter than they are. Remember pride commes before a fall.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is not some facts that can be proved to someone. You cant convince someone to believe in God with facts. That just plays into the hands of an atheist who thinks everything must be seen and proved or else they will not believe it. But it isnt my role to prove to you anything. I cant make you believe, I cant make you do anything.
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Then they are not Christians for a true Christian would pray for your conversion and follow this passage.
Instead, "If your enemies are hungry, feed them. If they are thirsty, give them something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals of shame on their heads."*
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