And the more I think of it, how do you even dare to pass off that obvious evidence that the ban has nothing to do with automatic gun violence, and even get smarmy at the end of your post about it? Of course it's relevant...
This is why I have absolutely no trust in anyone who is for gun control. I can't even begin to relate to the mind set you would have to have to just dismiss out of hand that a nation who has stricter gun control laws than we do has more gun violence.
You didn't even begin to address my objection. If the cartels were running rampant in this country the way they are in Mexico, one of two things would happen.
1. Our government would invade whatever nation they were operating from and assassinate their leaders. (See Al Quaeda)
2. People would demand access to automatic weapons and blow the heads off the Cartel operatives themselves.
Mexico proves it is not the ban that is achieving the result. It is our culture. We don't tolerate that level of corruption, or at least, we used to not tolerate it.
Now you're out in the weeds for sure. Power companies are regulated the snot out of to ensure fair access, and many are co-ops here in rural Texas.
I'd love to see a movement to make co-ops of all Telcos. That would be awesome. Try bullying a customer owned co-op into doing things the customers don't want.
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I like Aaron. Hell, I adore a lot of the stuff he was all about. But Aaron Swartz was no Jesus Christ, or for that matter no person who made up the story of Jesus Christ if you're the kind of person that likes to pretend He never existed.
The ignorance of the Bible, and especially of the Old Testament, which we are constantly encouraged to think of as backwards and barbaric, is staggering. Think doing away with the draft is leftist? Try having an army of all volunteers who, if they happen to just be afraid, are encouraged to go back home.
Think progressive taxes are leftist and counterproductive. Try the redistrinbution of all land every 50 years. Try the forgiveness of all debt every 7.
Yeah, you can finger your way through the Bible and find difficulties. I personally have my own little explanations for most of them, but that is really beside the point. The point is, whether you believe in God or not, the Bible talks about a level of freedom that has yet to materialize on the face of this earth.
Finally, and my deepest sympathies to Aaron and his family, but Jesus didn't kill himself when the government came for him. He obliged the government to finish the job.
And some say that was the undoing of all of their kind for all eternity.
Yeah, I am casting my vote for you having that backwards as well. Further, those of you who do creative work and go hand in hand with the abusive corporations who are undermining technological progress and threatening people left and right deserve the condemnation of your fellow man for going along with things that are obviously not right.
If your creativity is so rare, then how could it be copied? The argument against you is in the ease with which your supposedly ever so rare creativity is in fact not much different from anything that came before, and that pretty much anyone can learn to do it, let alone push a button or two and make a copy of it.
Want to impress me as an artist? Perform for a living. Get paid for showing up, and don't get paid when you don't show up, just like every single solitary other person who doesn't make their living singing, dancing, making pretty things to look at, or playing pretend.
You are NOT better than the rest of us. That is your hubris talking.
One of the things apologists for maximizing corporate power don't tend to talk about is corporate power was hand in hand with the power of the government leading up to the American Revolution as well.
Er... point being, people often are driven into the arms of the person who makes them feel they are taken care of. With Linux there is a real feeling you are out in the wilderness alone, and unless you're pretty confident, there's a significant feeling that maybe you're better off dealing with the devil you know.
I think Apple relates to Windoze in the same way that Windoze relates to Linux in that regard.
I'm no fan of Jobs, or Gates for that matter, but for Jobs I will say that I think the benefit of his products was that he made them user friendly. Almost everyone who is an apple-maggot has the same reason why. "Expensive, but easy to use."
Really, as tech saavy as I often seem to be, especially in comparison to most people, I only just recently broke off to Linux for my laptop, and no small motivation for the long wait was that it was just hard for me to be sure I was getting all the support for my hardware I should be.
Just to be very clear, all art is borrowing anyhow. Hell, no one has ever even bothered trying to count the number of songs built around the same three or four chord structure, and the other day a guitarist showed me like three different very popular songs that all are built around almost identical riffs.
Copyright is absurd on its face the more you really look at it.
Any cash business tends to keep money out of the bank. Banks need their money to come back if they are to lend more money, which is necessary if they ever intend to get the interest out of the money they previously lent. At any given time, more money is owed than currently exists. This is why we have constant inflation. We are told as long as inflation is slow it is ok. That is a lie. Inflation forces you to put your money BACK in the hands of the very people using it against you to begin with. Otherwise it just sites there getting more and more worthless. So you "invest" it, which puts it in the hands of bankers' chronies, who fuck things up every few years like clockwork and yet no one ever wises up.
The whole planetary economy is still in a tissy over their last fiasco. And STILL hardly anyone cares. People are out there honest to god trying to blame poor people who barely understand the system for borrowing too much so they can live in a house....
Anyhow, since all your money is debt anyhow, it becomes an issue.
Oh, I never said they didn't like it. I'm the one attaching this issue to others that lead to centralization. I think they are playing hard to get for a bigger cut.
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The picture one (Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation) is just hilarious. Don't want copies of your pictures floating around? Don't put them on the internet. Period. The end. Put a low quality copy on the internet and sell high quality ones behind your paywall. Serperderper.
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I like the Sony corp one. What it reveals too is the specious nature of the application of copyright to the internet. Providers over the internet want to pretend they can't give you what you want, when you want it, cheaply. If they would do that, there would be barely a whiff of pirating. Why risk even the hint of breaking the law if you can get the stuff you want at a rational price WHEN YOU WANT IT.
And that is exactly what this case addresses........
I'm just the sort to tilt at windmills, so don't see this as a concession on my part, but the bottom line is that technologists have ceded this point in the past again and again. In the 70's they just had a tax on all recording media. In the 80's the kept it legal to HAVE a satellite, but then made it illegal to break encryption. I'm sure there's a handful of people to this day out there hacking cable tv with a satellite and a decryption box of some sort, but by and large the business model of that allows for central control of information survived.
ISP's, Google, all these players - they are putting the content producing sector on notice that this time around they want their share of the pie to be BIGGER. Either the cost of this stuff is going way down (good as far as it goes, but still leaves big media controlling what we see the most of), or else the fraction of it that goes to the providers is going way up (BAD in every conceivable way). Either way, though, once the providers are on board then the laws will pile up and we'll be nowhere much better off in the end.
When these laws are in place, Charlie's motive is to not get caught downloading it elsewhere. We are already conceding most of our wi fi hotspots to your witch hunt as it is.
The most serious reply I can give you is I think you are underestimating the value of having control over what people see and hear. I am a little less than Orwellian about it all, but I think communication and information are locked down and tied (like everything else) to banking in order to keep things centralized, which many believe is more of a boon than a bane.
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This is why I have absolutely no trust in anyone who is for gun control. I can't even begin to relate to the mind set you would have to have to just dismiss out of hand that a nation who has stricter gun control laws than we do has more gun violence.
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1. Our government would invade whatever nation they were operating from and assassinate their leaders. (See Al Quaeda)
2. People would demand access to automatic weapons and blow the heads off the Cartel operatives themselves.
Mexico proves it is not the ban that is achieving the result. It is our culture. We don't tolerate that level of corruption, or at least, we used to not tolerate it.
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Re: how about a study on the effects of government-sanctioned violence?
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The fellow complaining you have no clue has no clue.
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I'd love to see a movement to make co-ops of all Telcos. That would be awesome. Try bullying a customer owned co-op into doing things the customers don't want.
Pfft.
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Re: What would Aaron Swarts do? should become the internet version of What would Jesus do?
The ignorance of the Bible, and especially of the Old Testament, which we are constantly encouraged to think of as backwards and barbaric, is staggering. Think doing away with the draft is leftist? Try having an army of all volunteers who, if they happen to just be afraid, are encouraged to go back home.
Think progressive taxes are leftist and counterproductive. Try the redistrinbution of all land every 50 years. Try the forgiveness of all debt every 7.
Yeah, you can finger your way through the Bible and find difficulties. I personally have my own little explanations for most of them, but that is really beside the point. The point is, whether you believe in God or not, the Bible talks about a level of freedom that has yet to materialize on the face of this earth.
Finally, and my deepest sympathies to Aaron and his family, but Jesus didn't kill himself when the government came for him. He obliged the government to finish the job.
And some say that was the undoing of all of their kind for all eternity.
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If your creativity is so rare, then how could it be copied? The argument against you is in the ease with which your supposedly ever so rare creativity is in fact not much different from anything that came before, and that pretty much anyone can learn to do it, let alone push a button or two and make a copy of it.
Want to impress me as an artist? Perform for a living. Get paid for showing up, and don't get paid when you don't show up, just like every single solitary other person who doesn't make their living singing, dancing, making pretty things to look at, or playing pretend.
You are NOT better than the rest of us. That is your hubris talking.
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To paraphrase, the Boston Tea Party was a protest against the tax policy of the Brittish Government and the East India Company that controlled the tea imported into the colonies.
Hmm. Government acting hand in hand with monopolistic corporations to violate people's rights... Seem at all familiar?
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Bridge, I bet. Bridge should definitely be banned.
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I think Apple relates to Windoze in the same way that Windoze relates to Linux in that regard.
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Really, as tech saavy as I often seem to be, especially in comparison to most people, I only just recently broke off to Linux for my laptop, and no small motivation for the long wait was that it was just hard for me to be sure I was getting all the support for my hardware I should be.
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Copyright is absurd on its face the more you really look at it.
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The whole planetary economy is still in a tissy over their last fiasco. And STILL hardly anyone cares. People are out there honest to god trying to blame poor people who barely understand the system for borrowing too much so they can live in a house....
Anyhow, since all your money is debt anyhow, it becomes an issue.
Short answer - yes. Yes it does.
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And that is exactly what this case addresses........
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Are satellite's illegal to own without a license already? =)
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I Don't See a Happy Ending
ISP's, Google, all these players - they are putting the content producing sector on notice that this time around they want their share of the pie to be BIGGER. Either the cost of this stuff is going way down (good as far as it goes, but still leaves big media controlling what we see the most of), or else the fraction of it that goes to the providers is going way up (BAD in every conceivable way). Either way, though, once the providers are on board then the laws will pile up and we'll be nowhere much better off in the end.
My two cents. FWIW.
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