I don't believe it was a suicide. Maybe someone made it look like a suicide.
Apparently, you don't "get" probability theory. Here's your first lesson:
It is theoretically possible, via Brownian Motion, that all the molecules in a glass of beer will line up and choose to move in the same direction at once, and your beer will all leap out of the glass. The probability that this might actually happen (though admittedly possible) is vanishingly small, or the more cluefull would say is non-existent, as in won't happen.
On the other hand, you may have better inside information of what Kim Jong Un has been up to than I, but I'll go with "vanishingly small" likelihood on that too (not to mention other just as unlikely conspiracy theories crazies like you out there might imagine). I think Aaron's prosecutors did a very evil thing, but this is reality, not Hollwierd. The CIA might do shit like that all the time, but I doubt the CIA had any sticks in this fire. Of course, I could be wrong about that. I don't claim omniscience.
... but those were automatically purged after three years and don't exist anymore ...
Ah, the NYPD default excuse. Nope, I'm afraid that falls under egregious incompetence. Any IT specialist in this day and age who can't manage a backup system shouldn't be given the job in the first place, and whoever hired them was either incompetent or corrupt. Adjoining cells for them both! Time out kids. Think about what you failed to do. Take your time. You can learn an important lesson from this and be a better person for it on the other side. Tough love!
Still, a normal person would get tired of living in a world so hostile to truth.
I suspect that's Aaron in a nutshell.
As for judges putting up with crap, read Victor Hugo's Les Miserable, and watch Inspector Jaubert closely. My memory may be faulty (it was a while ago) but I believe when he finally was forced to admit that Jean Valjean was an innocent man, his only option was suicide.
I can recommend the Liam Neeson DVD version, but the book's well worth reading too.
If Jason needs an assistant to help him file and manage all of these requests and lawsuits, and also happens to read this site, I would love to work with him.
Bravo. I hope he can use the help.
As for voting, I've given up on the likelihood of finding anyone worth voting for. However, I can still use my vote to vote against the worst.
Bwa, ha, ha, haaa! :-) There's a lot to be said for "I didn't vote for that jerk!" when everyone else is complaining about them. They don't get to blame them on me.
The only asshat here is you, jumping to conclusions.
FWIW, I agree with you here. I didn't read your comment at all like they did.
Socrates had a lot of powerful enemies too for saying a lot of things others questioned. Or maybe he was just too annoying, whatever, asking difficult, embarrassing questions.
Don't go drinking any hemlock. When they pulled that trick on Aristotle, he just "got outta Dodge" instead. :-) Smart guy.
It's quite possible that the documents were never in that particular office as well.
Sure, and isn't this starting to look like Douglas Adams' H2G2? Do they really want us to equate them with Vogons? I'm happy to. I just wonder why they'd want us to.
This is hardly a difficult question that they should have trouble handling. It's pretty transparently obvious that they're going out of their way to intentionally misunderstand the problem so they don't need to comply with *our* *right* to get *our* information *out of them*! This was world news at the time. It isn't "Who killed JFK" stuff, ffs.
They, by their deluded actions, caused a really terrific guy to kill himself because he saw his life being maliciously destroyed by them and refused their right to do that to anyone including him. Have they no shame?!?
Welcome to martyrdom, Aaron. :-P I wish these jerks would find a bridge they could jump from into a river. The world would be a slightly better place without their like in it.
The really annoying part of this for me is, who put these jerks in charge of this stuff? Yeah, we did. They make me feel as guilty as they are.
Nah. They pulled all of that stuff up as soon as it was requested. It's sitting in a pile in a bookcase in his office. However, he's waiting until you divine the magic incantation before he'll respond with them. Or, maybe you'll die of old age first. That'd work too.
...that terrorist has now become a meaningless term of derision? Like liberal and gay?
I wonder why I'm imagining monkeys flinging poo. This guy makes them look like geniuses. Consider the source. If he's using the word terrorist to describe a guy filing lawsuits like any lawyer (or capable laymen), what's that say about him?
Creeping senility, perhaps? Dropped on his head a few times too many as a baby? Lazy minded as fuck? I think I'll go with that last one, though it could be all of them.
Me neither, but like you for corruption perpetrated by thugs in government whose salaries we're paying, I'm happy to make an exception. It's only fair. They may have forgotten the definition of the word justice. It's our obligation to remind them we haven't.
There are few things I know of that disgust me more than what happened to Aaron. That was truly assholes on parade. If you've never seen it, check "The Internet's Own Boy" DVD out of your local library. I recommend it highly.
And send Jason and the EFF some money if you have it please. :-) I wish I could.
Let's push harder to expose the lie: copyright is NOT property. Belief that it is fuels the rationale behind this nonsense over linking so we need to kick it down.
The problem is money. We can scream until we're blue in the face educating the Universe as to what's right and wrong, but while they still have the money to buy politicians and we keep electing bribable politicians, they'll keep on winning.
About all we can do about it is try to make a boycott work, and seldom do they. Your typical twenty-something millenial hates it when all their friends are talking about something they haven't yet seen themselves, spoiling the sweet surprise ending for them. Somebody here only a few days ago used "Spoiler Alert" before they started mentioning Gattaca. What is that, ten, fifteen years old? I found out over the weekend that one of my friends had never heard of it. I was shocked.
We will be back to the old days of trying to guess URLs and hoping you didn't land on a porn site.
URLs? More like going back to the days before some smart cookie (Paul Mockapetris; I'm surprised I've never heard of him) invented DNS. Imagine the typical Twitter or Facebook addict trying to deal with dotted quads.
a minister in Japan has just resigned over bribery charges to do with TPP ...
No, the bribery had to do with a construction company, not TPP. It was just a coincidence that he was the guy handling TPP for Japan. Or, maybe to handle TPP, you need to be corrupt so obviously give the job to him.
why else would they keep trying to get more harsh sentences for file distribution?
My theory is they're very stupid in important areas and completely divorced from reality. How can it make any sense to blow a fortune on lawyers to win a judgement nobody in his right mind would expect would ever be paid?
I'll agree with your first point, to a point. I'd put the blame on the politicians who sewed them all up into that ridiculous cascading treaty obligations crap. Why a Yugoslav assassinating an Austrian in Sarajevo should lead to hundreds of thousands of Canadians dying in French trench warfare at Ypres never made a lick of sense to me. Also note they learned nothing from it as Germany invading Poland was the straw that finally broke the camel's back and dragged France and Britain into declaring war on Germany in WWII.
Also, how does France (later) sending tons of soldiers to the killing fields reduce their population of smart people, when the best and brightest disproportionately tend to find ways to avoid serving on the front lines?
That only makes sense if you equate "best and brightest" with "rich." I don't. You don't need to be very smart to inherit a fortune. You just need to have the right parents.
Even in the US' Civil War, the rich could pay some poor bugger to serve for them.
To my mind the French in Haiti and Indochina, and perhaps also their treatment of their other colonies such as Algeria and Morocco was far darker.
If you take the time to read the historical accounts of that era, pretty much all of those colonial powers at the time were every bit as despicable as all the rest. Even otherwise nice and benign Holland acted atrociously.
I'm glad enough managed to survive it. Just imagine the kind of mindset that can bring itself to believe that Native Americans were little better than vermin. Eww ...
Yes, the Brits wised up once they saw the price tag. Besides, they still had Canada, and they were heading into a pissing match with France (over Quebec among other things) at the time.
Tim Berners-Lee is going to be rolling on the floor laughing his ass off when he hears about this, considering he was working on the border between France and Switzerland when he invented the web. Invented (partially) in France, and now French politicians are trying their damnedest to destroy it while ostensibly trying to "monetize" it.
This is in contrast with the US usage of the same word which means to "leave on the table and not discuss at this time."
That is odd because for once Canada uses the same meaning as the US. We generally track more closely to the Brits' style (favour vs. favor, behavior vs. behaviour, etc).
... what punishment can I expect to receive if I'm caught DUI on the digital super-highway?
How do they even detect it? Bad typing or dyslexia? Lots of people do that stone cold sober. I'd have thought this Erik Barnett had to be on something fairly intoxicating to come up with something as silly as this.
I can't help but wonder about this statement in light of Techdirt's enthusiastic support for municipal broadband...
You do know what the "F" in FBI means, yes? Don't they teach you guys about this stuff in civics classes?
I've met a lot of civic politicians just while we were out walking on a sidewalk. I've never met a head of state, though I did know a couple of members of parliament who did end up heads of state.
Barnett is just bowing to his corporatist masters.
Or, he could be campaigning for a cushy revolving door type job once his term in office is over. I can't imagine anyone coming up with this drivel any other way.
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Re: not a believer
Apparently, you don't "get" probability theory. Here's your first lesson:
It is theoretically possible, via Brownian Motion, that all the molecules in a glass of beer will line up and choose to move in the same direction at once, and your beer will all leap out of the glass. The probability that this might actually happen (though admittedly possible) is vanishingly small, or the more cluefull would say is non-existent, as in won't happen.
Another thing you ought to read up on is Occum's Razor.
On the other hand, you may have better inside information of what Kim Jong Un has been up to than I, but I'll go with "vanishingly small" likelihood on that too (not to mention other just as unlikely conspiracy theories crazies like you out there might imagine). I think Aaron's prosecutors did a very evil thing, but this is reality, not Hollwierd. The CIA might do shit like that all the time, but I doubt the CIA had any sticks in this fire. Of course, I could be wrong about that. I don't claim omniscience.
Havin' fun yet? :-)
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Re: The timing is interesting
Ah, the NYPD default excuse. Nope, I'm afraid that falls under egregious incompetence. Any IT specialist in this day and age who can't manage a backup system shouldn't be given the job in the first place, and whoever hired them was either incompetent or corrupt. Adjoining cells for them both! Time out kids. Think about what you failed to do. Take your time. You can learn an important lesson from this and be a better person for it on the other side. Tough love!
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Re: Why are judges so tolerant of perjury?
I suspect that's Aaron in a nutshell.
As for judges putting up with crap, read Victor Hugo's Les Miserable, and watch Inspector Jaubert closely. My memory may be faulty (it was a while ago) but I believe when he finally was forced to admit that Jean Valjean was an innocent man, his only option was suicide.
I can recommend the Liam Neeson DVD version, but the book's well worth reading too.
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Re: My Hero
Bravo. I hope he can use the help.
As for voting, I've given up on the likelihood of finding anyone worth voting for. However, I can still use my vote to vote against the worst.
Bwa, ha, ha, haaa! :-) There's a lot to be said for "I didn't vote for that jerk!" when everyone else is complaining about them. They don't get to blame them on me.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Semantics at play...
FWIW, I agree with you here. I didn't read your comment at all like they did.
Socrates had a lot of powerful enemies too for saying a lot of things others questioned. Or maybe he was just too annoying, whatever, asking difficult, embarrassing questions.
Don't go drinking any hemlock. When they pulled that trick on Aristotle, he just "got outta Dodge" instead. :-) Smart guy.
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Re: Re: Semantics at play...
Sure, and isn't this starting to look like Douglas Adams' H2G2? Do they really want us to equate them with Vogons? I'm happy to. I just wonder why they'd want us to.
This is hardly a difficult question that they should have trouble handling. It's pretty transparently obvious that they're going out of their way to intentionally misunderstand the problem so they don't need to comply with *our* *right* to get *our* information *out of them*! This was world news at the time. It isn't "Who killed JFK" stuff, ffs.
They, by their deluded actions, caused a really terrific guy to kill himself because he saw his life being maliciously destroyed by them and refused their right to do that to anyone including him. Have they no shame?!?
Welcome to martyrdom, Aaron. :-P I wish these jerks would find a bridge they could jump from into a river. The world would be a slightly better place without their like in it.
The really annoying part of this for me is, who put these jerks in charge of this stuff? Yeah, we did. They make me feel as guilty as they are.
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Re: Nicely Worded... so probably true
Nah. They pulled all of that stuff up as soon as it was requested. It's sitting in a pile in a bookcase in his office. However, he's waiting until you divine the magic incantation before he'll respond with them. Or, maybe you'll die of old age first. That'd work too.
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Re: Is this an admission...
I wonder why I'm imagining monkeys flinging poo. This guy makes them look like geniuses. Consider the source. If he's using the word terrorist to describe a guy filing lawsuits like any lawyer (or capable laymen), what's that say about him?
Creeping senility, perhaps? Dropped on his head a few times too many as a baby? Lazy minded as fuck? I think I'll go with that last one, though it could be all of them.
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Re: Re:
Me neither, but like you for corruption perpetrated by thugs in government whose salaries we're paying, I'm happy to make an exception. It's only fair. They may have forgotten the definition of the word justice. It's our obligation to remind them we haven't.
There are few things I know of that disgust me more than what happened to Aaron. That was truly assholes on parade. If you've never seen it, check "The Internet's Own Boy" DVD out of your local library. I recommend it highly.
And send Jason and the EFF some money if you have it please. :-) I wish I could.
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The problem is money. We can scream until we're blue in the face educating the Universe as to what's right and wrong, but while they still have the money to buy politicians and we keep electing bribable politicians, they'll keep on winning.
About all we can do about it is try to make a boycott work, and seldom do they. Your typical twenty-something millenial hates it when all their friends are talking about something they haven't yet seen themselves, spoiling the sweet surprise ending for them. Somebody here only a few days ago used "Spoiler Alert" before they started mentioning Gattaca. What is that, ten, fifteen years old? I found out over the weekend that one of my friends had never heard of it. I was shocked.
Sigh. :-P
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Re: Talk about the web going dark...
URLs? More like going back to the days before some smart cookie (Paul Mockapetris; I'm surprised I've never heard of him) invented DNS. Imagine the typical Twitter or Facebook addict trying to deal with dotted quads.
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No, the bribery had to do with a construction company, not TPP. It was just a coincidence that he was the guy handling TPP for Japan. Or, maybe to handle TPP, you need to be corrupt so obviously give the job to him.
My theory is they're very stupid in important areas and completely divorced from reality. How can it make any sense to blow a fortune on lawyers to win a judgement nobody in his right mind would expect would ever be paid?
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Re: Re: *sigh* It's all Napoleon's fault.
That only makes sense if you equate "best and brightest" with "rich." I don't. You don't need to be very smart to inherit a fortune. You just need to have the right parents.
Even in the US' Civil War, the rich could pay some poor bugger to serve for them.
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Re: Re: Re: Nuke 'em
If you take the time to read the historical accounts of that era, pretty much all of those colonial powers at the time were every bit as despicable as all the rest. Even otherwise nice and benign Holland acted atrociously.
I'm glad enough managed to survive it. Just imagine the kind of mindset that can bring itself to believe that Native Americans were little better than vermin. Eww ...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Nuke 'em
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Re: Re: Nuke 'em
Truth really is stranger than fiction.
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Re: tabled
That is odd because for once Canada uses the same meaning as the US. We generally track more closely to the Brits' style (favour vs. favor, behavior vs. behaviour, etc).
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How do they even detect it? Bad typing or dyslexia? Lots of people do that stone cold sober. I'd have thought this Erik Barnett had to be on something fairly intoxicating to come up with something as silly as this.
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You do know what the "F" in FBI means, yes? Don't they teach you guys about this stuff in civics classes?
I've met a lot of civic politicians just while we were out walking on a sidewalk. I've never met a head of state, though I did know a couple of members of parliament who did end up heads of state.
They play in completely different leagues.
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Re: It's about influence
Or, he could be campaigning for a cushy revolving door type job once his term in office is over. I can't imagine anyone coming up with this drivel any other way.
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