DOJ Lies To 'FOIA Terrorist' Jason Leopold; Claim They Have No Documents On Aaron Swartz
from the buncha-liars dept
Back in 2013, not long after Aaron Swartz's tragic suicide, reporter Kevin Poulsen (who had also worked with Swartz on what became SecureDrop, the system for whistleblowers to anonymously submit documents to journalists) submitted a Freedom of Information Act with the Department of Homeland Security about what info it had on Swartz. There were some legal fights about it, but eventually DHS was forced to release the documents, which now reside at a site set up by Poulsen called SwartzFiles.com. These documents revealed things like the government's weird infatuation with the Guerrilla Open Access Manifesto, that many believe was written (at least in part) by Swartz (there's at least some dispute over this).Meanwhile, Jason Leopold, who uses FOIA requests so frequently and so effectively that the DOJ once labeled him a "FOIA Terrorist," submitted a similar request with the Justice Department -- specifically targeting the US Attorney's Office in Massachusetts -- which is the office out of which Swartz's case was prosecuted. Obviously, they have plenty of such documents. In fact, in Poulsen's DHS Swartz files there are emails between DHS and DOJ folks. But, an astounding three years and 11 days after Leopold submitted his FOIA request, the DOJ has told him it has no responsive documents.
And, of course, perhaps the worst FOIA requester to give a bogus answer to is Jason Leopold. Not only is he one of the most persistent FOIA filers, he also is absolutely willing to file FOIA lawsuits when the government tries to deny him what he wants. As a recent profile noted, he's filed more FOIA lawsuits by himself than almost all other news organizations combined. And it seems quite likely that the DOJ just convinced him to file another such lawsuit.
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Perhaps if the money came out of the Assistant Directors paychecks & pension funds...
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Me neither, but like you for corruption perpetrated by thugs in government whose salaries we're paying, I'm happy to make an exception. It's only fair. They may have forgotten the definition of the word justice. It's our obligation to remind them we haven't.
There are few things I know of that disgust me more than what happened to Aaron. That was truly assholes on parade. If you've never seen it, check "The Internet's Own Boy" DVD out of your local library. I recommend it highly.
And send Jason and the EFF some money if you have it please. :-) I wish I could.
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Is this an admission...
Terrorism used to require a modicum of violence.
Might I recommend Zombie?
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Well there's your problem right there! If you aren't supporting the Free/Libre Open Source Software movement...
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I wonder why I'm imagining monkeys flinging poo. This guy makes them look like geniuses. Consider the source. If he's using the word terrorist to describe a guy filing lawsuits like any lawyer (or capable laymen), what's that say about him?
Creeping senility, perhaps? Dropped on his head a few times too many as a baby? Lazy minded as fuck? I think I'll go with that last one, though it could be all of them.
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Nicely Worded... so probably true
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Nah. They pulled all of that stuff up as soon as it was requested. It's sitting in a pile in a bookcase in his office. However, he's waiting until you divine the magic incantation before he'll respond with them. Or, maybe you'll die of old age first. That'd work too.
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Semantics at play...
Because the responsive records are in a different office or location! Else why did it take that long to reply other than they were relocating the responsive records so as to truthfully send this response.
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a matter of timing
>>or location!
The documents might well have been in the State Attorney's Office when the request came in. However, once the office became aware of interest in the contents of the boxes or filing cabinets, said containers were disappeared to another location.
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It's quite possible that the documents were never in that particular office as well. The investigation could have been started in New York office, as an example.
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The only asshat here is you, jumping to conclusions. It's okay, I accept your apology.
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FWIW, I agree with you here. I didn't read your comment at all like they did.
Socrates had a lot of powerful enemies too for saying a lot of things others questioned. Or maybe he was just too annoying, whatever, asking difficult, embarrassing questions.
Don't go drinking any hemlock. When they pulled that trick on Aristotle, he just "got outta Dodge" instead. :-) Smart guy.
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Sure, and isn't this starting to look like Douglas Adams' H2G2? Do they really want us to equate them with Vogons? I'm happy to. I just wonder why they'd want us to.
This is hardly a difficult question that they should have trouble handling. It's pretty transparently obvious that they're going out of their way to intentionally misunderstand the problem so they don't need to comply with *our* *right* to get *our* information *out of them*! This was world news at the time. It isn't "Who killed JFK" stuff, ffs.
They, by their deluded actions, caused a really terrific guy to kill himself because he saw his life being maliciously destroyed by them and refused their right to do that to anyone including him. Have they no shame?!?
Welcome to martyrdom, Aaron. :-P I wish these jerks would find a bridge they could jump from into a river. The world would be a slightly better place without their like in it.
The really annoying part of this for me is, who put these jerks in charge of this stuff? Yeah, we did. They make me feel as guilty as they are.
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My Hero
We can't fund the future on IOU's.
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Bravo. I hope he can use the help.
As for voting, I've given up on the likelihood of finding anyone worth voting for. However, I can still use my vote to vote against the worst.
Bwa, ha, ha, haaa! :-) There's a lot to be said for "I didn't vote for that jerk!" when everyone else is complaining about them. They don't get to blame them on me.
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Why are judges so tolerant of perjury?
Still, a normal person would get tired of living in a world so hostile to truth.
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I suspect that's Aaron in a nutshell.
As for judges putting up with crap, read Victor Hugo's Les Miserable, and watch Inspector Jaubert closely. My memory may be faulty (it was a while ago) but I believe when he finally was forced to admit that Jean Valjean was an innocent man, his only option was suicide.
I can recommend the Liam Neeson DVD version, but the book's well worth reading too.
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The timing is interesting
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Ah, the NYPD default excuse. Nope, I'm afraid that falls under egregious incompetence. Any IT specialist in this day and age who can't manage a backup system shouldn't be given the job in the first place, and whoever hired them was either incompetent or corrupt. Adjoining cells for them both! Time out kids. Think about what you failed to do. Take your time. You can learn an important lesson from this and be a better person for it on the other side. Tough love!
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not a believer
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Apparently, you don't "get" probability theory. Here's your first lesson:
It is theoretically possible, via Brownian Motion, that all the molecules in a glass of beer will line up and choose to move in the same direction at once, and your beer will all leap out of the glass. The probability that this might actually happen (though admittedly possible) is vanishingly small, or the more cluefull would say is non-existent, as in won't happen.
Another thing you ought to read up on is Occum's Razor.
On the other hand, you may have better inside information of what Kim Jong Un has been up to than I, but I'll go with "vanishingly small" likelihood on that too (not to mention other just as unlikely conspiracy theories crazies like you out there might imagine). I think Aaron's prosecutors did a very evil thing, but this is reality, not Hollwierd. The CIA might do shit like that all the time, but I doubt the CIA had any sticks in this fire. Of course, I could be wrong about that. I don't claim omniscience.
Havin' fun yet? :-)
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