"You want it now, so you can bring political pressure to bear on specific provisions and specific language. The negotiators want to disclose down the road when consensus on all chapters is reached and it is time for countries to ratify the package."
And once they do ratify it, it'll be too late to make any changes and we're stuck with a bill with chapters and guidelines the public will hate. There are plenty of reasons why we need to have it now so that we can discuss what we want and how it will benefit the public, instead of these interest groups deciding what's best for us.
And I'll be willing to call the USTR... do you have Ron Kirk's personal number so I can call him?
No, I don't know how things work. I am an idiot who want to know what is going on behind closed doors and learn what is happening to... well, let's say my country. I'm not sure to call it "our country" since I don't know where you are or your identity, nor do I care about those facts. Aside from that, can't I ask questions to things I don't know? Is that so wrong of me to do so? You appear to be an expert in this sort of thing, so please enlighten me on what you know.
Yes, it's not my job to sit at meetings so pointless we shouldn't be having at all. But again, it'll be nice to know what is going on so that way we can have some input into what TPP is all about?
"What is your purpose in making negotiations public?"
Well it's not Ninja's purpose, but if they make the negotiations public, then the public can talk about how they feel about TPP before this could be made into law. If the public has an input, there wouldn't be these chapters that could be hazardous in the future.
"When the deal is done, final drafts will be released and it will be voted on."
And then what? It could be too late for the public to have an input on what should be added or remove, and we have to fight to prevent such a deal from passing into law. We need to know what is in the deal before it is finalize and before someone has a chance to vote for it. We need to know these things! How can we do it without any true information about what's going in it!?
Yeah, only for us to be brushed off. And I seriously doubt that any representatives (didn't you get the quotations?) is going to see any final drafts once negotiations are done. That really doesn't reassure me that things are going to be better.
We need to know what is going on. How can we know if they are not letting us know what's going on behind those doors?!
You know what's in TPP? Then can you provide us some text from it detailing that TPP won't make any changes to copyright, or even a link to the leak? If you know that no laws won't be affected, then show us. Show us the leak and maybe we will ignore you.
Well, how about working with people over a distance for an example? Let's say that you want to have a large group of people for a movie and you are on a strict budget. You need to accommodate for not only plane/trains/bus tickets and gas money to transport everyone around, but some kind of housing for the people working on the movie and a food budget to keep everyone full. Not to mention that you have people coming from different countries to help with this, and you have to work within a certain time frame so you can get everyone back on the plane and have them fly back home.
So if the budget is for getting everyone to work on the movie and getting them a place to stay and something to eat and drink, and then somehow they make a good-quality movie, then it is possible.
... Then, where does this money go to? Does it go to the creators, or does it go somewhere else? If I have to bet any money, it's the latter.
Also, does it bring happiness? Not exactly. Of course I do need some in order to move on, but for the main necessities like groceries, house and utilities. If I had that kind of money then maybe I would live that lifestyle, but I'm not living it like you are (are you?).
And by awful daily things, you mean like eating, drinking, bathroom breaks, cleaning, and sleeping?
Oh, they have a "ignore" button. It's call a report button. ... Oh wait, that's considered censorship, isn't it? And come on, can I have a little fun? I'm not that bright of a human being compared to you, and I'm fickle. I can make all the comments I want.
To be fair, after reading your comments from previous articles, why do I have to bother with you? You're a broken record that repeats the same message. But what I like is reading the responses to your comments, enjoying their insight and witty banters compare to what you have to say. Plus, are you saying that I can't flip-flop on my own issues when you do that in your comments?
So I said that I don't care about your comments. So what? You are willing to comment back (nearly all the time), and that's not a bad thing, is it? (To some...) Though I am curious about what you define as a person, because I don't see how a corporation is a person and how they could hold copyright on something they didn't create. I will allow you to answer that. From there, it's up to others, even me, to answer.
So re-printing will allow people to keep the money to themselves while King gets nothing? And putting his books online will automatically make his work free and everyone can grab it? Uh-huh, yeah sure, that's going to work out perfectly.
I know you're going to retort on this, but not every Hollywood movie is crappy. Then again, part of why I said about tastes is that everyone is going to react differently to what is before them. People need to judge things, try them out, preview it, before they should buy it. Just because someone buys something doesn't make it good or bad. Just because it's popular and people are buying it, again, doesn't make it good or bad. It just means it's popular and the content creator want to sap as much money as they can, even if they make a turd of a product so popular to get everyone invested in it. As said before "quality =/= quantity." I want to have something good and I do want to get it legally, but I don't want to own something terrible after purchasing it (unless I intentionally purchase it to rip it a new one).
... You know what. Every time that I read these kinds of comments, I notice something in common: money. There seems to be a lot of talks about money between you ACs. Are you really this concern about money? I'm curious...
Define "person," because if I remember correctly, anyone can own the copyright on something, including corporations and corporations are people. So, am I violating the rights of the creator or the corporations?
Simple? Uh, yeah... no. It's not simple. Perhaps I should be saying "why should I care about investing my time in this sort of thing?" If there is something for free legally, I will try it out and see if I like it. If I like it, I will see if there is an option to buy it. If not, then maybe I'll keep the free item, or get rid of it if I dislike it. But... if I come to find that there is a price and it's something I can't afford, then I might consider some options. Pirating... that won't be an option for me. I will save up my money if I want to buy it, otherwise if the content's bad, then no sell.
Then again, I don't care what you have to say. I don't care about your morals, you views, or your thoughts. If I want to say my thoughts, then let me. I could care less about your life and what you do in the real world. I don't ask about it nor do I want to know.
Now before I say my interpretation on the nonsense you're trying to get across, the line "[m]orality doesn't sell on Techdirt because most of Mike's hardcore fans have none," makes me wonder if that's based on facts or on opinions. But knowing you... it's all opinions. (And by the way, I do have morals and I'm not a hardcore Mike fan.)
And now... here are my questions: 1) who's rights am I violating for "stealing" their "property" and 2) who really deserves that money? You keep talking about how we as citizens are making copies and not paying for them, even selling these copies, and hurting the content creators, but who's getting hurt and/or violated? Who should I be worry about and give me a (different) reason why I should worry and care for them! If this is really about money... then if it's the corporations, then screw that! If it's a creator that makes horrible and crappy material, then forget them! If it's a creator that makes good material but behaves like a jerk to their fans, then forget him! They don't deserve my money nor my time if they treat us like criminals and thieves. And maybe I don't want to try their product simply for the matter it doesn't match my tastes.
And every nation on Earth recognizing it's more than "making copies?" Ha! The governments may recognize it, but not the citizens, the public, the consumers! Then again, not every country in this world shares that same belief and thought here in the US.
"Copyright makes it possible for him to sell what he writes, and therefore be able to write more (and work other jobs less)."
Yes, because that is what helping me sell my original work. ... Does copyright really help in quality if I'm producing quantity? Quantity =/= quality.
"THe money wouldn't come back to King, who in turn would have to earn his money in some other way."
Unless he sells his books himself, and that way people can send their money directly to him.
"Nobody expects to be paid if their writing is shitty."
Come on, it makes great riffing material! Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey? Both are known for their crappy material, but yet people are buying them and eating them up, and others do enjoy how bad those books are, because they can make fun of them!
"A crappy writer is a crappy writer, and no matter the system, they won't make money."
Really? There are seriously bad writers out there and they are making money off of their products, copyrighted or not. Want me to get a few to prove my point?
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And once they do ratify it, it'll be too late to make any changes and we're stuck with a bill with chapters and guidelines the public will hate. There are plenty of reasons why we need to have it now so that we can discuss what we want and how it will benefit the public, instead of these interest groups deciding what's best for us.
And I'll be willing to call the USTR... do you have Ron Kirk's personal number so I can call him?
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Yes, it's not my job to sit at meetings so pointless we shouldn't be having at all. But again, it'll be nice to know what is going on so that way we can have some input into what TPP is all about?
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Well it's not Ninja's purpose, but if they make the negotiations public, then the public can talk about how they feel about TPP before this could be made into law. If the public has an input, there wouldn't be these chapters that could be hazardous in the future.
"When the deal is done, final drafts will be released and it will be voted on."
And then what? It could be too late for the public to have an input on what should be added or remove, and we have to fight to prevent such a deal from passing into law. We need to know what is in the deal before it is finalize and before someone has a chance to vote for it. We need to know these things! How can we do it without any true information about what's going in it!?
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We need to know what is going on. How can we know if they are not letting us know what's going on behind those doors?!
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What text? We are asking for a copy of TPP and see what's inside of it. How can we tell if something is legit if we don't know what's in it!?
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So if the budget is for getting everyone to work on the movie and getting them a place to stay and something to eat and drink, and then somehow they make a good-quality movie, then it is possible.
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... Then, where does this money go to? Does it go to the creators, or does it go somewhere else? If I have to bet any money, it's the latter.
Also, does it bring happiness? Not exactly. Of course I do need some in order to move on, but for the main necessities like groceries, house and utilities. If I had that kind of money then maybe I would live that lifestyle, but I'm not living it like you are (are you?).
And by awful daily things, you mean like eating, drinking, bathroom breaks, cleaning, and sleeping?
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Shut up and take my money!
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To be fair, after reading your comments from previous articles, why do I have to bother with you? You're a broken record that repeats the same message. But what I like is reading the responses to your comments, enjoying their insight and witty banters compare to what you have to say. Plus, are you saying that I can't flip-flop on my own issues when you do that in your comments?
So I said that I don't care about your comments. So what? You are willing to comment back (nearly all the time), and that's not a bad thing, is it? (To some...) Though I am curious about what you define as a person, because I don't see how a corporation is a person and how they could hold copyright on something they didn't create. I will allow you to answer that. From there, it's up to others, even me, to answer.
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I know you're going to retort on this, but not every Hollywood movie is crappy. Then again, part of why I said about tastes is that everyone is going to react differently to what is before them. People need to judge things, try them out, preview it, before they should buy it. Just because someone buys something doesn't make it good or bad. Just because it's popular and people are buying it, again, doesn't make it good or bad. It just means it's popular and the content creator want to sap as much money as they can, even if they make a turd of a product so popular to get everyone invested in it. As said before "quality =/= quantity." I want to have something good and I do want to get it legally, but I don't want to own something terrible after purchasing it (unless I intentionally purchase it to rip it a new one).
... You know what. Every time that I read these kinds of comments, I notice something in common: money. There seems to be a lot of talks about money between you ACs. Are you really this concern about money? I'm curious...
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Simple? Uh, yeah... no. It's not simple. Perhaps I should be saying "why should I care about investing my time in this sort of thing?" If there is something for free legally, I will try it out and see if I like it. If I like it, I will see if there is an option to buy it. If not, then maybe I'll keep the free item, or get rid of it if I dislike it. But... if I come to find that there is a price and it's something I can't afford, then I might consider some options. Pirating... that won't be an option for me. I will save up my money if I want to buy it, otherwise if the content's bad, then no sell.
Then again, I don't care what you have to say. I don't care about your morals, you views, or your thoughts. If I want to say my thoughts, then let me. I could care less about your life and what you do in the real world. I don't ask about it nor do I want to know.
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And now... here are my questions: 1) who's rights am I violating for "stealing" their "property" and 2) who really deserves that money? You keep talking about how we as citizens are making copies and not paying for them, even selling these copies, and hurting the content creators, but who's getting hurt and/or violated? Who should I be worry about and give me a (different) reason why I should worry and care for them! If this is really about money... then if it's the corporations, then screw that! If it's a creator that makes horrible and crappy material, then forget them! If it's a creator that makes good material but behaves like a jerk to their fans, then forget him! They don't deserve my money nor my time if they treat us like criminals and thieves. And maybe I don't want to try their product simply for the matter it doesn't match my tastes.
And every nation on Earth recognizing it's more than "making copies?" Ha! The governments may recognize it, but not the citizens, the public, the consumers! Then again, not every country in this world shares that same belief and thought here in the US.
But overall... why should I care?
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Yes, because that is what helping me sell my original work. ... Does copyright really help in quality if I'm producing quantity? Quantity =/= quality.
"THe money wouldn't come back to King, who in turn would have to earn his money in some other way."
Unless he sells his books himself, and that way people can send their money directly to him.
"Nobody expects to be paid if their writing is shitty."
Come on, it makes great riffing material! Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey? Both are known for their crappy material, but yet people are buying them and eating them up, and others do enjoy how bad those books are, because they can make fun of them!
"A crappy writer is a crappy writer, and no matter the system, they won't make money."
Really? There are seriously bad writers out there and they are making money off of their products, copyrighted or not. Want me to get a few to prove my point?
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