Just last week, Bodie McBodeface was spinning fantasies to the effect that government networks are better, faster, and cheaper than commercial networks.
But today, upon learning that his evil twin Trumpy McTrumpface wants to build the Mother of All Government Network, Bodie does a 180 and lashes out at government networks.
Where was all the handwringing about civil liberties when the Berkman (not really "Harvard") report on the magic of munis was on the table? It's local police departments, after all, that love Stingrays best.
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Right, it's like a conspiracy or something.
[For the record: I don't speak for the FCC, nor do I speak under any kind of orders, suggestions, or coordination with the FCC. Anonymous Coward suffers from paranoid delusions of persecution.]
Did you miss the part where I pointed out Kehl took data from websites for three New America Foundation (subsidiary of Google) reports called "The Cost of Connectivity?"
You're pretty credulous if you believe Berkman's claim. In any event, you can't claim a < b if you don't have the values of a and b regardless of your excuse.
No researcher has ever been sued for taking prices from ISP websites for purposes of comparison.
Berkman author Danielle Kehl did that several times for the NAF "Cost of Connectivity" reports.
You're chopping off the relevant text of the phrases you quote: "**systematically** collect[ing] and us[ing] any Content including **the use of any data mining, or similar data gathering and extraction methods**"
No researcher has ever been sued for taking prices from ISP websites for purposes of comparison.
Sorry about that reading disability. Here's a nice paragraph for you:
"As discussed in Section 2, the methodology used in the report is problematic – much more so than the authors admit. Moreover, as detailed in Section 3, the report omits critical details about the underlying conditions influencing the GON prices studied. The authors attempt to brush these failings aside as they call on private ISPs to be more forthcoming about their terms and conditions of service.9 This is pure deflection. The surface-level findings in the Berkman report should not be viewed as dispositive vis-à-vis municipal broadband offering “better” service than private broadband. Accordingly, policymakers should view the report’s findings as flawed (the authors admit as much) and endeavor instead to ask hard questions about its methodology and other aspects of the analysis. Doing so reveals a number of key shortcomings that undermine the report’s takeaways."
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How quickly the winds of fashion change...
Just last week, Bodie McBodeface was spinning fantasies to the effect that government networks are better, faster, and cheaper than commercial networks.
But today, upon learning that his evil twin Trumpy McTrumpface wants to build the Mother of All Government Network, Bodie does a 180 and lashes out at government networks.
Where was all the handwringing about civil liberties when the Berkman (not really "Harvard") report on the magic of munis was on the table? It's local police departments, after all, that love Stingrays best.
You TD kids are certainly flexible.
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What an impressive group intellect TD has.
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[For the record: I don't speak for the FCC, nor do I speak under any kind of orders, suggestions, or coordination with the FCC. Anonymous Coward suffers from paranoid delusions of persecution.]
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This isn't Kehl's first rodeo
You're pretty credulous if you believe Berkman's claim. In any event, you can't claim a < b if you don't have the values of a and b regardless of your excuse.
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Re: Re: Did you miss the part where "higher" and "lower" mean you need to have at least two things to compare?
Why don't you take a look at the report?
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Re: Re: You mean, like the actual prices quoted?
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Berkman author Danielle Kehl did that several times for the NAF "Cost of Connectivity" reports.
You're chopping off the relevant text of the phrases you quote: "**systematically** collect[ing] and us[ing] any Content including **the use of any data mining, or similar data gathering and extraction methods**"
No researcher has ever been sued for taking prices from ISP websites for purposes of comparison.
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Re: Re: “the report omits critical details about the underlying conditions influencing the GON prices studied.”
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Re: Re: utterly destroyed by careful analysis
"As discussed in Section 2, the methodology used in the report is problematic – much more so than the authors admit. Moreover, as detailed in Section 3, the report omits critical details about the underlying conditions influencing the GON prices studied. The authors attempt to brush these failings aside as they call on private ISPs to be more forthcoming about their terms and conditions of service.9 This is pure deflection. The surface-level findings in the Berkman report should not be viewed as dispositive vis-à-vis municipal broadband offering “better” service than private broadband. Accordingly, policymakers should view the report’s findings as flawed (the authors admit as much) and endeavor instead to ask hard questions about its methodology and other aspects of the analysis. Doing so reveals a number of key shortcomings that undermine the report’s takeaways."
Any questions?
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Ars Technica's article - by Brodkin - is garbage
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Cities and towns are incompetent
Many of these ill-begotten munis end up owned by Google, so you always have that to look forward to.
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