Yeah, according to Politico and FiveThirtyEight Trump voters really like the racist dog whistles (more accurately, the racist dog tubas). So while I went to great lengths to give Trump voters the benefit of doubt, yeah, it turns out I was wrong and they just mostly (over 90%) want to purge the brown people.
They still do in 2020.
Incidentally, now that the FBI's arresting Boogaloo Bois for burning and looting during BLM demonstrations, Trump's own people have contributed to the ambiguity regarding violence during demonstrations. BLM demonstrations are still unlikely to be violent, even when the police go in, guns and grenade-launchers blazing.
Just like the civil rights, the left doesn't have to do anything before law enforcement opens hostilities. Only now, smartphones with cameras are ubiquitous. And they're streaming to the internet, and being watched. We don't have news agencies as a gateway anymore (and boy are they pissed off over it).
So maybe look at the videos and face the truth, if you dare. The FBI has already determined white supremacists and far right nationalists are the greatest terror threat in the US.
I bet they're looking for recruits, if you're interested.
Google is a for-profit company. It stands for Google earning a positive net profit. Anything else is stands for is altruism (or, more likely, marketing; making its services more attractive?)
Google doesn't have to host content it doesn't want to. And if Google finds the regulations of Australia too inclimate it doesn't have to provide them.
Given the Australian government has shown to be about as morally consistent as the US in recent years, there's no morality. There`s no ethical high ground. There's only game theory. If Australia depends on Google for services, it needs to do what Google wants. Or it can conseider what competitors of Google offer similar services.
That's the situation. There's no should except maybe the government of Australia might want to consider what best serves the people of Australia. But that nonsense has been out of fashion for decades.
I think that more indicates just how effective the Republican / MAGA stranglehold is on US politics. Our federal government has been ineffective for decades, and while the people don't know how to fix that, they sure are angry about it.
And it doesn't help that most of us are in a state of survival insecurity. Without a plan, killing off the oddballs and marginalized is the first place our brain goes.
Rats in a flour silo will eat and multiply until the food runs out. Then they turn on each other. The survivors eat the dead. And all the while we can't expect the people to do their civic diligence when they're hangry and exhausted all the time.
All the GOP has to do is obstruct until the next election cycle, and they'll be back in power. And the next purge program will likely include dissenters.
When I was a kid, our moral guardians tried scare parents off from Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (and tabletop RPGs in general), and despite all my efforts, I couldn't find a real Satanic cult to take me in and teach me real magic. (🕯📚🔔Ia! Fhtagn!🐙) I still hold a grudge.
But the New York Times has repeatedly opined about evils without thinking clearly about them (including the diabolical phonograph) The New York Times, despite its reputation as a bastion of news fit to print, has demonstrated time and again it's not willing to actually investigate the perils our children face, and instead is willing to offer moral panics for cheap scares.
I grew up a latchkey kid, as both my parents had to work, and this only redoubled my interests in the unknown and esoteric. Ultimately, without supervision, I delved unflinchingly into unlocking the dark arts🌩 and over years of neglect, with madness closing in, I was etched and carved into the monstrous abomination you see before you today.
However, all of the mischief our children can get into can be tempered greatly by actual parenting. If we, either a) Provided well-funded schools with highly-paid professional teachers to mind them and teach them holistically about things like critical thought (Maybe we could use Cookie Monster's sometimes-foods idea for sometimes-activities? Moderation in all things?), or b) allow parents to earn a family-living working only part-time so they still have time and energy for rest, recreation, civic responsibilities and parenting.
This was a known problem in the seventies, and we're still not doing it. We may love our children, but we love capitalism and profit more.
Until we, as a society, choose one of these two options (both would be swell) we're going to have to live with future generations of dysfunctional drug-addicted cyber-kids who have to spend much of their adulthood sorting out their own psychodrama and addicted to gaming and social media.
From a harm-reduction perspective, leaning on video games isn't terrible. We've taken parents and actual social engagement from our kids. Taking away their video-game coping methods will probably result in them seeking out (and finding) other coping methods, say, getting baked every day, or exploring abandoned industrial parks, or torturing animals, or a bit of the old ultraviolence.
If your kids are leaning heavily on video games, they're not leaning heavily on something else. Ia! Cthulhu! Fhtagn🌩
Go to Wikipedia and look up an armed conflict. Any armed conflict, whether in the Falkland Islands, the Gaza Strip, or even a land war in Asia.
Every belligerent believes its own causes to go to war are righteous and the enemy has tricked itself. To the last.
It was a terrible truth I discovered studying the Dolchstoßlegende in the aughts, trying to understand the global preponderance of antisemitism throughout the industrialized world circa 1900-1930. I figured there had to be some legitimate grievance. Nope, not one. (I mean there are a few valid critiques but none of them were part of the rhetoric used to sow and spread hatred of the Jewish peoples in the decades leading to the holocaust.)
Likewise, the people of Germany were convinced their cause was righteous as they stormed into Poland in Fall Weis, beginning their long march to Moscow. And similarly the people who stormed the US Capitol on January 6, 2021 were convinced beyond doubt they were patriots securing the presidency from usurpation by a defrauded electoral process. These same people are now crying on the internet, still begging their leader to use his power to save them, whether by pardon or to launch his secret ambush to retake the civic blocks in Washington. Some are trying to justify that maybe the coup d'etat has been delayed. Some are saying it's postponed until March 4th, 2021, and those in jail are just going to have to languish there until Trump rises again from the ashes.
The horror of it (to me) is the agents of the United States who torture, or commission torture of alleged enemies of the US do so believing their cause is righteous and their cruelty is entirely justified and necessary. They don't see torture as useless for interrogation, that torture only allows remote officers and oligarchs to feel they're doing something to get at a distant adversary. And so it is done in the name of the United States.
As it is for drone-strike teams and the commanders who appear to believe fifty civilian deaths for each person of interest is an acceptable casualty rate if it helps keep the United States secure from foreign terrorists.
I suspect Anonymous Coward who isn't willing to regard (and may not be capable of processing) the compound evidence de-legitimizing the assault on the Capitol, nor comprehend the grievances that lead to the ongoing unrest regarding the death of George Floyd and pervasive brutality by Law Enforcement against US citizens. He is compelled not to look and dismiss it as bullshit. From my position Anonymous Coward is radicalized, but that's only on the presumption that my diligence tracking facts has been sufficient. There's a nonzero chance I'm the one fooled and radicalized. (I trust it's close to zero, though.)
We are not as rational as we imagine ourselves to be, and even doctors and rocket scientists have been tricked to believing Trump is good for the United States and didn't just con his way into power to enrich himself and bolster his own pride. While many of them cling to MAGA and QAnon based on feels, we know that some of them are trained to be impartial and go where the facts lead...at least in their own field.
It's a problem for which I don't have a solution, and in the meantime, we have to figure out how to simultaneously sustain a grasp on fact-based reality and deprogram those who cannot, and are faithful to the cause, before someone decides the only way to save the society is to massacre the dissenters.
(Killing the dissenters pretty sure that was Stephen Miller's plan, whether or not Trump and company had also warmed up to it.)
"It was a good decision and only stupid people oppose it."
Well you lost me there. Isn't that called poisoning the well
IANAL and don't know the nuances of Citizens United but we have an established history of how plutocrats became super powerful once that ruling was made, and this was after the US Supreme Court was captured by the Federalist Society.
The question is, we love America and democracy or do we love capitalism more? Because we are plummeting towards corporate neofeudalism and burning up in re-entry. Even the new administration is more interested in preserving capitalism and the assets of its aristocracy than it is preserving either the national identity of the United States, or the survival of its people.
Or maybe, Anonymous Coward you are one of the plutocrats and have assets in the hundreds of millions?
Putin has been rather antagonistic to the US, including a recent hack of federal assets that looks to investigators to have footprints of the SVR.
Do you have an opinion regarding whether Putin has leverage on Trump?
Do you have any evidence regarding whether Putin controls Trump?
I don't.
The limited evidence we have suggests that Trump is extremely resistant to offending Putin or Russia, and he's been engaged with Russian oligarchs since long before his presidency. That's not conducive to giving him the benefit of doubt.
Are your opinions different, Anonymous Coward? Why do you bring it up?
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Yeah, according to Politico and FiveThirtyEight Trump voters really like the racist dog whistles (more accurately, the racist dog tubas). So while I went to great lengths to give Trump voters the benefit of doubt, yeah, it turns out I was wrong and they just mostly (over 90%) want to purge the brown people.
They still do in 2020.
Incidentally, now that the FBI's arresting Boogaloo Bois for burning and looting during BLM demonstrations, Trump's own people have contributed to the ambiguity regarding violence during demonstrations. BLM demonstrations are still unlikely to be violent, even when the police go in, guns and grenade-launchers blazing.
Just like the civil rights, the left doesn't have to do anything before law enforcement opens hostilities. Only now, smartphones with cameras are ubiquitous. And they're streaming to the internet, and being watched. We don't have news agencies as a gateway anymore (and boy are they pissed off over it).
So maybe look at the videos and face the truth, if you dare. The FBI has already determined white supremacists and far right nationalists are the greatest terror threat in the US.
I bet they're looking for recruits, if you're interested.
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Not even ONE of those things
Mr. Anonymous Coward doesn't care. He figures if he repeats it enough times to himself and friends, they'll get used to pretending it's true.
And then, to quote English Bob, why not shoot a president?
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Elevator
As sharp as a bowling ball
Several crayons short of a box
Not the brightest bulb on the string
Calling me dumb isn't an argument. Trying to discredit me by any means isn't an argument.
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Google standing for...???
Google is a for-profit company. It stands for Google earning a positive net profit. Anything else is stands for is altruism (or, more likely, marketing; making its services more attractive?)
Google doesn't have to host content it doesn't want to. And if Google finds the regulations of Australia too inclimate it doesn't have to provide them.
Given the Australian government has shown to be about as morally consistent as the US in recent years, there's no morality. There`s no ethical high ground. There's only game theory. If Australia depends on Google for services, it needs to do what Google wants. Or it can conseider what competitors of Google offer similar services.
That's the situation. There's no should except maybe the government of Australia might want to consider what best serves the people of Australia. But that nonsense has been out of fashion for decades.
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Purge
Please elaborate on that.
Usually when I hear purge I think Wannsee Conference.
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"Better than expected for election losers"
I think that more indicates just how effective the Republican / MAGA stranglehold is on US politics. Our federal government has been ineffective for decades, and while the people don't know how to fix that, they sure are angry about it.
And it doesn't help that most of us are in a state of survival insecurity. Without a plan, killing off the oddballs and marginalized is the first place our brain goes.
Rats in a flour silo will eat and multiply until the food runs out. Then they turn on each other. The survivors eat the dead. And all the while we can't expect the people to do their civic diligence when they're hangry and exhausted all the time.
All the GOP has to do is obstruct until the next election cycle, and they'll be back in power. And the next purge program will likely include dissenters.
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"Imagine Google pulling out of Texas."
Texas is represented by Senator Ted Cruz.
It would be a happy thought except Texas is very purple.
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Re: Google's real target
Do these requirements affect all search engines that serve Australia?
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John Oliver's voice
No, but now that you mention it, I can't hear it any other way.
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Baby liberal
I'm not the one squealing like a caffeinated toddler who just had his puppy taken away.
You folks are having a bad week. Maybe take a break from the old internet.
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Re: Re: Cybermen have tear ducts?
But she had _cyber-_tear-ducts!
FOR CYBER-TEARS!
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"Spaz"
Making an armchair diagnosis?
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news agencies
Reuters? Associated Press? Pick a half dozen and see what specific facts they agree on. The rest is suspected interpretation.
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Moral panics about our children
When I was a kid, our moral guardians tried scare parents off from Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (and tabletop RPGs in general), and despite all my efforts, I couldn't find a real Satanic cult to take me in and teach me real magic. (🕯📚🔔Ia! Fhtagn!🐙) I still hold a grudge.
But the New York Times has repeatedly opined about evils without thinking clearly about them (including the diabolical phonograph) The New York Times, despite its reputation as a bastion of news fit to print, has demonstrated time and again it's not willing to actually investigate the perils our children face, and instead is willing to offer moral panics for cheap scares.
I grew up a latchkey kid, as both my parents had to work, and this only redoubled my interests in the unknown and esoteric. Ultimately, without supervision, I delved unflinchingly into unlocking the dark arts🌩 and over years of neglect, with madness closing in, I was etched and carved into the monstrous abomination you see before you today.
However, all of the mischief our children can get into can be tempered greatly by actual parenting. If we, either a) Provided well-funded schools with highly-paid professional teachers to mind them and teach them holistically about things like critical thought (Maybe we could use Cookie Monster's sometimes-foods idea for sometimes-activities? Moderation in all things?), or b) allow parents to earn a family-living working only part-time so they still have time and energy for rest, recreation, civic responsibilities and parenting.
This was a known problem in the seventies, and we're still not doing it. We may love our children, but we love capitalism and profit more.
Until we, as a society, choose one of these two options (both would be swell) we're going to have to live with future generations of dysfunctional drug-addicted cyber-kids who have to spend much of their adulthood sorting out their own psychodrama and addicted to gaming and social media.
From a harm-reduction perspective, leaning on video games isn't terrible. We've taken parents and actual social engagement from our kids. Taking away their video-game coping methods will probably result in them seeking out (and finding) other coping methods, say, getting baked every day, or exploring abandoned industrial parks, or torturing animals, or a bit of the old ultraviolence.
If your kids are leaning heavily on video games, they're not leaning heavily on something else. Ia! Cthulhu! Fhtagn🌩
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It's just a relief...
...that we're back to matters involving whiskey, dog chew toys and the US Supreme Court deciding it can't be bothered.
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There's ALWAYS justification for violence
Go to Wikipedia and look up an armed conflict. Any armed conflict, whether in the Falkland Islands, the Gaza Strip, or even a land war in Asia.
Every belligerent believes its own causes to go to war are righteous and the enemy has tricked itself. To the last.
It was a terrible truth I discovered studying the Dolchstoßlegende in the aughts, trying to understand the global preponderance of antisemitism throughout the industrialized world circa 1900-1930. I figured there had to be some legitimate grievance. Nope, not one. (I mean there are a few valid critiques but none of them were part of the rhetoric used to sow and spread hatred of the Jewish peoples in the decades leading to the holocaust.)
Likewise, the people of Germany were convinced their cause was righteous as they stormed into Poland in Fall Weis, beginning their long march to Moscow. And similarly the people who stormed the US Capitol on January 6, 2021 were convinced beyond doubt they were patriots securing the presidency from usurpation by a defrauded electoral process. These same people are now crying on the internet, still begging their leader to use his power to save them, whether by pardon or to launch his secret ambush to retake the civic blocks in Washington. Some are trying to justify that maybe the coup d'etat has been delayed. Some are saying it's postponed until March 4th, 2021, and those in jail are just going to have to languish there until Trump rises again from the ashes.
The horror of it (to me) is the agents of the United States who torture, or commission torture of alleged enemies of the US do so believing their cause is righteous and their cruelty is entirely justified and necessary. They don't see torture as useless for interrogation, that torture only allows remote officers and oligarchs to feel they're doing something to get at a distant adversary. And so it is done in the name of the United States.
As it is for drone-strike teams and the commanders who appear to believe fifty civilian deaths for each person of interest is an acceptable casualty rate if it helps keep the United States secure from foreign terrorists.
I suspect Anonymous Coward who isn't willing to regard (and may not be capable of processing) the compound evidence de-legitimizing the assault on the Capitol, nor comprehend the grievances that lead to the ongoing unrest regarding the death of George Floyd and pervasive brutality by Law Enforcement against US citizens. He is compelled not to look and dismiss it as bullshit. From my position Anonymous Coward is radicalized, but that's only on the presumption that my diligence tracking facts has been sufficient. There's a nonzero chance I'm the one fooled and radicalized. (I trust it's close to zero, though.)
We are not as rational as we imagine ourselves to be, and even doctors and rocket scientists have been tricked to believing Trump is good for the United States and didn't just con his way into power to enrich himself and bolster his own pride. While many of them cling to MAGA and QAnon based on feels, we know that some of them are trained to be impartial and go where the facts lead...at least in their own field.
It's a problem for which I don't have a solution, and in the meantime, we have to figure out how to simultaneously sustain a grasp on fact-based reality and deprogram those who cannot, and are faithful to the cause, before someone decides the only way to save the society is to massacre the dissenters.
(Killing the dissenters pretty sure that was Stephen Miller's plan, whether or not Trump and company had also warmed up to it.)
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"It was a good decision and only stupid people oppose it."
Well you lost me there. Isn't that called poisoning the well
IANAL and don't know the nuances of Citizens United but we have an established history of how plutocrats became super powerful once that ruling was made, and this was after the US Supreme Court was captured by the Federalist Society.
The question is, we love America and democracy or do we love capitalism more? Because we are plummeting towards corporate neofeudalism and burning up in re-entry. Even the new administration is more interested in preserving capitalism and the assets of its aristocracy than it is preserving either the national identity of the United States, or the survival of its people.
Or maybe, Anonymous Coward you are one of the plutocrats and have assets in the hundreds of millions?
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Masnick had to make his own site
Masnick made his own site twenty four years ago.
I'm pretty sure that makes him established.
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Russia
Russian influence on the 2016 election and leverage on President Trump himself hasn't been ruled out, you know.
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Putin controls Trump
Putin has been rather antagonistic to the US, including a recent hack of federal assets that looks to investigators to have footprints of the SVR.
Do you have an opinion regarding whether Putin has leverage on Trump?
Do you have any evidence regarding whether Putin controls Trump?
I don't.
The limited evidence we have suggests that Trump is extremely resistant to offending Putin or Russia, and he's been engaged with Russian oligarchs since long before his presidency. That's not conducive to giving him the benefit of doubt.
Are your opinions different, Anonymous Coward? Why do you bring it up?
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