That Anonymous Coward (profile), 25 Jan 2019 @ 3:56am
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How he complained is up for debate. One can complain about the traffic, but that hardly motivates a government offical to do a study unless you send an actual complaint. "Well all of my bitching at the kitchen table finally paid off, they added more lanes!" How the complaints were made is never specified, beyond he and his friends complained a lot about the fake accounts.
From my reading the Ex being behind all of this still isn't a proven fact, it is an assumption. Rather that file a lawsuit against him, we move directly to suing Grindr for not doing "enough" & unproven claims that Grindr was giving his location to people seeking sex based on a story that the app leaked locations. But pretending these people showed up to have hardcore risky sex based only on location data is a stupid play. There is a 3rd party who talked to the guys looking to hook up, & that person provided the locations to show up at. But Grindr leaked location data, so that is enough to pretend they are at fault.
The complaint mentions 14 police reports, but are light in details against who they were filed against... the ex or the sex seekers who showed up and were to pushy... It mentions the filing for a protective order, but no information on the outcome... not even sure who the order was filed against.
The rest of the complaint delves into how horrible it is that the profiles claim he is HIV+, enjoys rough kinky sex, etc etc... Grindr didn't make those profiles, and pretending they did is how you can blame it all on them.
He mentions that when he found fake profiles on Scruff, they were all helpful and such & banned IP addresses (which anyone who understands knows isn't a solution)... but the complaint was made, then people at Scruff then pointed him to the policy on reporting fake profiles & he verified who he was then they did something about it.
One does wonder if Grindr sent him a link to their reporting system (I have no idea I don't use these apps) that went to spam or if he just thought yelling louder would get it done. Perhaps Grindr could have had more of a human touch to how they did it, but unless he followed the steps what were they supposed to do? Just suspend any account anyone sends them a message claiming is fake and then face backlash and liability when it turns out it was a fake report?
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 24 Jan 2019 @ 2:34am
Someone loved your brand enough to make a twitter account... they promote your brand, aren't making up crazy Sweeny Todd pie specials, sometime they say some odd things (but other brand accounts talk to this account like it is a peer), but the overall is this is awesome.
As long as they aren't hurting your brand, its not worth chasing. There is a special magic that this account has captured and you can not have paid some intern to keep the magic going. I can understand wanting to know who is behind it, but deciding its not worth messing with whats working.
If only there was a way they could find a way to get some coupons and other company swag to the account runner without learning who it is. Keep some coupons for yourself for all of your hard work promoting us & please give away some of the swag to our followers.
Embrace them, appreciate them, keep mostly hands off and watch. In all of this time, the person running the account hasn't called down the outrage hammer upon you... as long as that doesn't change I think this is a great symbiotic relationship.
You keep making pies, because that is what you are very good at... Let the person behind the twitter account keep on going, because that is what they are really good at...
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 23 Jan 2019 @ 10:08am
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"Platforms whose business models cannot exist without respecting the rights of individuals do not deserve to exist."
Like prisons? I mean there is a story about how they saved a convict from committing suicide & then returned him to the same cell with the noose still in place... shocker... he killed himself. Stories about sexual abuse of prisoners by guards that no one took seriously? Even convicts have a right to not get raped. Or those handy guards who boiled a man to death, made other convicts clean up the bits that fell off, & somehow didn't face any charges?
There are lots of platforms that do not conform to your view of reality, why is it only 230 gets your cock hard?
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 23 Jan 2019 @ 9:59am
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He and his friends sent messages claiming the account was fake. We don't know where they sent them or if he failed to read replies.
In recent history we have Tiffany who sued Twitter & most of the planet for trillions of dollars because they DARED to make her prove her claim that she was who she claimed she was before they would take action against an account impersonating her... and that took 2 days and in that time her entire life was threatened by ISIS or some shit so she needed millions to be safe.
He claims 14 police reports & a motion for a protective order but provides no information in the complaint about where those lead. 14 police reports - did they all reference that this was being directed by the evil ex? Or was it 14 complaints about the really pushy guys who refused to leave?
Why did he leave a required party off of the case?? As far as I know, do correct me if I am wrong, he brought no actions against the evil ex & got a ruling he was behind it. This seems to be Grindr has a deep pocket & evil ex has no cash and I like cash so lemme sue them.
That Adam Steinbaugh character used to report my tweets to the FBI twitter account... I doubt that counts as repeatedly complaining about me.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 23 Jan 2019 @ 9:50am
Why do they even bother with these fake experts & 'science' anymore?
They get good faith exceptions, don't have to know the law, need the law to be hyper clear that a taser shouldn't be applied to the cuffed prisoners anus...
They just want some more 'hi-tech' proof to get the CSI effect to sway juries to think its real. Its not enough a Grand Jury can watch them shoot someone in the back and plant a gun after the fact on video & still call the shooting justified... we need more faith given to us that we would never ever do this to good people.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 23 Jan 2019 @ 8:08am
Re: Re: Re: If his claims about tracking him have merit.....
Dude sets fake accounts location as NYC... Chats with dudes pretending to be Herrick. Dude gives them Herricks details, his address, his work address...
But somehow Grindr did it.
People answer fake hookup ad, bad guy sends those people to harass his ex, but Grindr should have known that this was all being done by an unbalanced freak harassing his BF because he sent them an email & not a court case or LEO contact.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 23 Jan 2019 @ 8:03am
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"A series of drunk driving convictions would result in suspended or revoked drivers license."
*looks at the guy with 13 DUI arrests who somehow still had his license*
Doesn't always work & making sure the DL is valid is 1 thing, paying for a deep dive into who the person is & their history is another.
And for people who don't have a credit card? Or for people who don't think they really want a credit agency to have a data point suggesting they enjoy gay sex? I mean it isn't like that information can be used to change insurance rates or desire to cover someone.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 23 Jan 2019 @ 3:24am
Re: If his claims about tracking him have merit.....
Except the app wasn't telling the other users to show up at his work and demand the secks, the app didn't tell them his home address.
His crazy ex (who he caught pretending to be him on Grindr when they were together & was one of the reasons they broke up) made a fake account, set the hookup range to huge, and then in private messages directed them to show up and harass his ex (the horny guys he sent thought they were talking to the actual guy & there isn't a glowing magic symbol that tells you you are being catfished to stalk an ex-BF).
Dude & his friends reported the accounts & complained to Grindr and Grindr didn't do anything that they could see. I can send reports claiming to be someone famous on Twitter and demand the fake account be shut down for impersonating me... if they don't I should get a multi-million payday?
While that one cop, who got the warrant to force the teen to get hard and masturbate to compare his cock to pictures in a cell phone, was sure he could identify him by his cock shots its not a science & there is more downside than upside when trying to do this. (We note the cop later was revealed to be a long term child abuser & killed himself.)
If you read the complaint after a few 100 men harassed him he filed 14 police reports & petitioned family court for a protection order. He even put up a sign telling dudes who showed up at his door that they got catfished & one tore it down & was mean.
No mention if the protection order was granted, or who he was seeking it against.
If you know your evil ex is directing men to your door but you only file complaints about the rowdy guys its hard to build a case. If you know your evil ex is behind this how is there no mention of a police investigation? How do you claim fear & suffering that Grindr needs to pay you millions for when you are only suing them and not the evil ex? Is it even the evil ex like you claim or is it someone else?
I mean I understand that whole cops suck & don't take things seriously when teh gays fight each other, but shoving 14 reports of dangerous men showing up on your doorstep will motivate even the dumbest doughnut muncher into doing SOMETHING to cover his ass because the next stop would be a victims rights group or the DA who really will make the doughnuts taste bad.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 23 Jan 2019 @ 3:02am
Oy vey.
Well me and my friends all reported the bad accounts to Grindr and they didn't stop him.
- Filing a police report about your abusive ex stalking you and sending people to harass you gives you LEO's who can alert Grindr & get their attention better. I chit chat with gay porn stars on teh twitters (I know shocking) and I often have a sad chuckle when their real accounts get thrown off of the platforms for 'impersonation' while the 14 imposters who lifted their pics they reported don't get shut down.
Grindr should take proactive steps to protect me from an abusive ex they know nothing about!
- Seriously? I'm sorry you stuck your dick in crazy who decided to send a cavalcade of men to your door when you broke up, but demanding a payday for some imagined duty is highly stupid.
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Is that icon next to Napster on your desktop?
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Oh it looks like the pool on the roof sprung a leak...
On the post: Herrick V. Grindr – The Section 230 Case That's Not What You've Heard
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He thinks it was evil ex, but well that finding of fact is based on his feels not a legal outcome.
The Ex would know where he works & where he lives, one wouldn't need a tracking app to send people there looking for the sex.
But thanks for adding some more mud to the water confusing the issues.
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One can complain about the traffic, but that hardly motivates a government offical to do a study unless you send an actual complaint.
"Well all of my bitching at the kitchen table finally paid off, they added more lanes!"
How the complaints were made is never specified, beyond he and his friends complained a lot about the fake accounts.
From my reading the Ex being behind all of this still isn't a proven fact, it is an assumption. Rather that file a lawsuit against him, we move directly to suing Grindr for not doing "enough" & unproven claims that Grindr was giving his location to people seeking sex based on a story that the app leaked locations. But pretending these people showed up to have hardcore risky sex based only on location data is a stupid play. There is a 3rd party who talked to the guys looking to hook up, & that person provided the locations to show up at. But Grindr leaked location data, so that is enough to pretend they are at fault.
The complaint mentions 14 police reports, but are light in details against who they were filed against... the ex or the sex seekers who showed up and were to pushy...
It mentions the filing for a protective order, but no information on the outcome... not even sure who the order was filed against.
The rest of the complaint delves into how horrible it is that the profiles claim he is HIV+, enjoys rough kinky sex, etc etc...
Grindr didn't make those profiles, and pretending they did is how you can blame it all on them.
He mentions that when he found fake profiles on Scruff, they were all helpful and such & banned IP addresses (which anyone who understands knows isn't a solution)... but the complaint was made, then people at Scruff then pointed him to the policy on reporting fake profiles & he verified who he was then they did something about it.
One does wonder if Grindr sent him a link to their reporting system (I have no idea I don't use these apps) that went to spam or if he just thought yelling louder would get it done. Perhaps Grindr could have had more of a human touch to how they did it, but unless he followed the steps what were they supposed to do?
Just suspend any account anyone sends them a message claiming is fake and then face backlash and liability when it turns out it was a fake report?
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they promote your brand, aren't making up crazy Sweeny Todd pie specials, sometime they say some odd things (but other brand accounts talk to this account like it is a peer), but the overall is this is awesome.
As long as they aren't hurting your brand, its not worth chasing.
There is a special magic that this account has captured and you can not have paid some intern to keep the magic going.
I can understand wanting to know who is behind it, but deciding its not worth messing with whats working.
If only there was a way they could find a way to get some coupons and other company swag to the account runner without learning who it is. Keep some coupons for yourself for all of your hard work promoting us & please give away some of the swag to our followers.
Embrace them, appreciate them, keep mostly hands off and watch. In all of this time, the person running the account hasn't called down the outrage hammer upon you... as long as that doesn't change I think this is a great symbiotic relationship.
You keep making pies, because that is what you are very good at...
Let the person behind the twitter account keep on going, because that is what they are really good at...
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Thanks Penn.
If you watch it backwards its about a bunch of whitehats who fix a computer & go back to their shitty lives.
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Like prisons?
I mean there is a story about how they saved a convict from committing suicide & then returned him to the same cell with the noose still in place... shocker... he killed himself.
Stories about sexual abuse of prisoners by guards that no one took seriously? Even convicts have a right to not get raped.
Or those handy guards who boiled a man to death, made other convicts clean up the bits that fell off, & somehow didn't face any charges?
There are lots of platforms that do not conform to your view of reality, why is it only 230 gets your cock hard?
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We don't know where they sent them or if he failed to read replies.
In recent history we have Tiffany who sued Twitter & most of the planet for trillions of dollars because they DARED to make her prove her claim that she was who she claimed she was before they would take action against an account impersonating her... and that took 2 days and in that time her entire life was threatened by ISIS or some shit so she needed millions to be safe.
He claims 14 police reports & a motion for a protective order but provides no information in the complaint about where those lead. 14 police reports - did they all reference that this was being directed by the evil ex? Or was it 14 complaints about the really pushy guys who refused to leave?
Why did he leave a required party off of the case??
As far as I know, do correct me if I am wrong, he brought no actions against the evil ex & got a ruling he was behind it. This seems to be Grindr has a deep pocket & evil ex has no cash and I like cash so lemme sue them.
That Adam Steinbaugh character used to report my tweets to the FBI twitter account... I doubt that counts as repeatedly complaining about me.
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They get good faith exceptions, don't have to know the law, need the law to be hyper clear that a taser shouldn't be applied to the cuffed prisoners anus...
They just want some more 'hi-tech' proof to get the CSI effect to sway juries to think its real. Its not enough a Grand Jury can watch them shoot someone in the back and plant a gun after the fact on video & still call the shooting justified... we need more faith given to us that we would never ever do this to good people.
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If you think Grindr is responsible here, please explain why victims can't sue gun makers. How are they different.
Also either tell the class who I am or stop pretending you managed to do something real lawyers were unable to accomplish.
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Chats with dudes pretending to be Herrick.
Dude gives them Herricks details, his address, his work address...
But somehow Grindr did it.
People answer fake hookup ad, bad guy sends those people to harass his ex, but Grindr should have known that this was all being done by an unbalanced freak harassing his BF because he sent them an email & not a court case or LEO contact.
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He mentioned filing for an order & filing 14 police reports... but if he was so upset he didn't follow up why does a 3rd party owe him a duty?
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*looks at the guy with 13 DUI arrests who somehow still had his license*
Doesn't always work & making sure the DL is valid is 1 thing, paying for a deep dive into who the person is & their history is another.
And for people who don't have a credit card?
Or for people who don't think they really want a credit agency to have a data point suggesting they enjoy gay sex?
I mean it isn't like that information can be used to change insurance rates or desire to cover someone.
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The sniper hole would need to have been there in the design and not added later to go after the car company.
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A 13 yr old hooking up with men!!!
A serial killer who acted out his demented fantasies!!
Except these things can happen with or without apps.
But but but we can all whip out our super duper Purple Mafia Friend of Dorothy Decoder Ring to confirm we are teh gay we claim we are.
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Re: If his claims about tracking him have merit.....
His crazy ex (who he caught pretending to be him on Grindr when they were together & was one of the reasons they broke up) made a fake account, set the hookup range to huge, and then in private messages directed them to show up and harass his ex (the horny guys he sent thought they were talking to the actual guy & there isn't a glowing magic symbol that tells you you are being catfished to stalk an ex-BF).
Dude & his friends reported the accounts & complained to Grindr and Grindr didn't do anything that they could see. I can send reports claiming to be someone famous on Twitter and demand the fake account be shut down for impersonating me... if they don't I should get a multi-million payday?
While that one cop, who got the warrant to force the teen to get hard and masturbate to compare his cock to pictures in a cell phone, was sure he could identify him by his cock shots its not a science & there is more downside than upside when trying to do this. (We note the cop later was revealed to be a long term child abuser & killed himself.)
If you read the complaint after a few 100 men harassed him he filed 14 police reports & petitioned family court for a protection order. He even put up a sign telling dudes who showed up at his door that they got catfished & one tore it down & was mean.
No mention if the protection order was granted, or who he was seeking it against.
If you know your evil ex is directing men to your door but you only file complaints about the rowdy guys its hard to build a case.
If you know your evil ex is behind this how is there no mention of a police investigation?
How do you claim fear & suffering that Grindr needs to pay you millions for when you are only suing them and not the evil ex?
Is it even the evil ex like you claim or is it someone else?
I mean I understand that whole cops suck & don't take things seriously when teh gays fight each other, but shoving 14 reports of dangerous men showing up on your doorstep will motivate even the dumbest doughnut muncher into doing SOMETHING to cover his ass because the next stop would be a victims rights group or the DA who really will make the doughnuts taste bad.
On the post: Herrick V. Grindr – The Section 230 Case That's Not What You've Heard
Well me and my friends all reported the bad accounts to Grindr and they didn't stop him.
- Filing a police report about your abusive ex stalking you and sending people to harass you gives you LEO's who can alert Grindr & get their attention better. I chit chat with gay porn stars on teh twitters (I know shocking) and I often have a sad chuckle when their real accounts get thrown off of the platforms for 'impersonation' while the 14 imposters who lifted their pics they reported don't get shut down.
Grindr should take proactive steps to protect me from an abusive ex they know nothing about!
- Seriously? I'm sorry you stuck your dick in crazy who decided to send a cavalcade of men to your door when you broke up, but demanding a payday for some imagined duty is highly stupid.
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