Could you explain how WinZip is a "bad 7-zip knockoff" when it was first released 8 years before 7-zip?
Not quite. WinZip was a GUI for PKZip on release. So it dates back to 1989 in public access. Alphas go back about another year or so from the BBS and CompuServe world.
In 95 it switched to InfoZip. Still someone else’s engine.
A stand-alone product of their own didn’t arrive until 2006 with general public release in 08. That was the zipX format variation.
“All of this should be concerning to folks. It basically says that if you get kicked off a site and then create a new account... you could face serious consequences ”
I fail to see what’s wrong with that.
If I toss you out of my house and you come back with a different shirt and ID it’s still you again.
When your tossed off the service you are tossed. Continually returning… you should face consequences!
Very political move to answer the question without answering.
Can you read a ballot from six feet away?
No.
So the poll watchers were unable to verify they process.
Where did the Trump administration do anything during and leading to the election that violated the legally passed laws and rules and regulations?
In fact, where did they violate them afterwards?
I remind you claiming an election is stolen is protected speech.
It’s the right of any citizen to challenge the vote.
Etc.
Your so obsessed with the who you ignore the why. And the why is just as reasonable today as it was in 2000.
I have zero doubt you would be complaining if the election went the other way.
The difference is I’d be with you in concern if Trump won.
A governor can not modify election laws alone.
Let me touch on your opening.
because there already where enough watchers
No. The already had occupancy limit set by the mayor; at least in Chicago’s case. Not the number set in state regulation.
Democrats arrived early and took the spots set by the mayor.
So yes, barred outright.
The terms drift but both those who watch voting and those who watch counting were effected.
That does not mean that there where no republican monitors,
Yet some locations had none.
Not all the windows were blocked.
Except… the watchers were also outside those windows.
You sure about that?
Yes; quite. Doesn’t matter if the president or the governor. A proclamation can not ignore law. That’s why so many lawsuits happen against proclamations. Except when the time frame is days or weeks no court hearing has a chance to fix the concern.
The state sets it own rules, as I mentioned above
A Governor, or mayor, etc, issuing rules in difference to state laws voted on by the state government is without legal standing by the state. Hence lawsuits.
Many which were dismissed as they came to docket after the elections.
So you are saying that if workers follow the rules/regulations in place which makes it impossible for them to do their work in a certain situation
It’s quite simple. A state Governor nor city mayor has the ability to overrule state election laws.
Covid-based executive proclamations that violated election laws are invalid. The election locations had the duty to carry out elections as per the state voted and passed laws. Not the whims of some executive.
You are just another inconsistent asshole carrying water for the orange buffoon
What part of Trump lost makes my comments have anything to do with Trump theories on the election?
This is not about the results of 2020. It’s the integrity of the election stem.
I’m not a q saying trump won. I’m a citizen of this country saying it’s wrong to see an executive override voted for laws. At any level.
Poll watchers, by any term, are vital to the process.
The people who watch the votes. And the people who watch the count.
Who wins isn’t the concern. The integrity of the process is.
Without all of the balance in place:
Either you trust the winning party or ruling party to be honest.
Or you trust that 100% of the voting population to be honest.
Or both.
I’ve never heard of an honest politician. Not 100%.
Not even Lincoln or Washington.
The fact that this country has fraud crime covers the other.
The election process must be protected above all else. No matter what the circumstances.
need to get products disappear from the market so that new products have a chance to shine
That’s just not going to happen. Not completely. In audio phonograph still makes up 10-17% of music sales. More than CDs today.
In video VHS releases still come out regularly enough. A few each month.
Some formats are so good at some specific aspect they never will disappear.
Just look at computing? LTO is still the choice for high-latency long term storage. LTO8 puts 30TB on a $50-$100 tape.
Which already tells you right off it’s too far away. This was the standard in many lean-blue states and most cities. Cities like Chicago and Detroit who implemented state distance directives in violation of state election laws.
…h as a nice breakdown based on Utah law. Which is the general idea across most states.
We had ballots counted in Fulton Georgia and Philadelphia in absence of watchers.
In some states Republican watchers were refused entry based on local covid occupancy restrictions, such as Georgia, Florida, and Colorado.
How about keeping them in an entirely different room, with windows covered, as happened in some Detroit locations?
All these actions are outside of the legal state regulations. Outside of state congressional bodies.
It would just as much be Democrats complaining it Trump was re-elected.
This can not happen again.
I have not once said fraud changed anything. I point out that such disregard for rules set in place by states should never again be allowed to be ignored. Because it invites fraud.
Forcing workers to be exposed to a pandemic is an OSHA violation
Find people willing to do the job they are hired for. If your unable to do so step aside for someone who will.
The poll watchers are part of the verification process. Taking a hike, as you say, is NOT an option.
They are volunteers there to verify the consistency and accuracy of the count.
They are there under state regulations voted for by congressional groups and passed by governors.
They can not be disregarded. Regardless of any pandemic situations.
There certainly where monitoring but that's something you conveniently ignore …
In many districts, especially in major cities, poll watcher were not within a distance capable of seeing the ballots.
In others they were barred outright. such as Chicago and Detroit.
They were sent home while counting continued, such as Pennsylvania.
The majority could not read ballots. 6 feet is too far for that.
So you have proof that the counts for the last election wasn't verified?
Can you read a ballot from six feet away?
It’s not about fraud (I doubt there was much more than any other election).
It’s about the process.
I’m still upset the 2000 recount was stopped.
It’s never been about the winner for me. Some of us care about the process. Not the winner.
The process was comprised.
I don’t care if rover the dog won.
As long as it won within the boundaries of the law.
They are outside arguing, one displayed a 10-32 [gun] that subject is a black male white t-shirt heavier set. Another black male is in all blue.” There was no description of the third individual,
Blue.
Keep in mind brandishing (displaying with intent) a weapon is a felony in most locations. They were dealing with a weapons call.
There’s a separate story about the wheelchair man.
I must apologise. I didn’t realise your level of understanding in the voting process was lacking.
You may want to look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrutineer
… that is if you care to educate yourself.
Poll watchers are a legitimate position. They are members of the parties on the ballot.
They sit, or stand, in direct view of the ballot counters as ballots are being counted.
Their job is but one, to verify, as ballots are counted, that the count is accurate.
They, poll watchers, are part of the state election process. By law in most states. By general practice in a few others.
There lack of direct access to the ballots being counted is the primary issue in many states including Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia.
When your job is to watch and record ballots as they are counted and your in another room, banned completely, or sent home for a utility issue, and the count happens anyway?
That’s a violation of the security and accuracy of our election process.
Covid was the claimed fault. But much like how I support vaccination mandates in health and hospitality…
If you were unwilling or unable to do the job you had, as a watcher or as a counter: that is if you were unwilling to sit next to or be sat next to… you give up your job to someone willing and able to do the job properly. End of discussion.
You follow the rules set out in statutes or step aside for someone willing to do it properly.
Otherwise the process is suspect.
there's no need to punish
My team? I’ve called for every violent protester to be arrested. Jan 6 and BLM.
Break the law go to jail.
What lie am I believing?
And what Republican monitors?
As there was no monitoring.
There’s little doubt based on statistics that Trump was voted out of office.
That doesn’t change the fact that poll watchers weren’t able to watch.
Such a situation must NEVER be allowed to happen again.
The shaken faith is due to the violation of long accepted practice of having poll watchers in place.
Had their been poll watchers there wouldn’t be these questions.
Oh: Trump was president on Jan 6th. The relatively small assault that had broken out of that protest, criminals they were, were not trying to overthrow the Trump lead government.
No insurrection.
And maybe if people like you would stop lumping those who worry about future integrity of elections with the tiny loud crybaby group of stollen election zombies maybe you’d have some progress on the whole unify-the-country aspect.
I’m more interested in making sure election counts can be verified than any conspiracy about hanging chads.
It is, by all polls that ask about the election and not the result.
A key difference so many refuse to comprehend.
And you apparently ignore every republican election-monitor who said the election was accurate and fair.
I ignore nothing. I find it unacceptable that the faith in our elections have been shaken. The people with questions, there are enough, that it is concerning.
As far as government and administration go, in American politics they are, generally, interchangeable.
The entire ruling party can switch in an election here. Everything is constantly rotating.
Ultimately, you may be able to find treason by legal definition… for a small few that day.
But you won’t get insurrection.
I suggest you look at Egypt, Iran, Ireland, Viet Nam, Korea,… those were insurrections. Organised armed rebellions targeting the whole of the governmental system.
For the first time since partisan poll watchers were adopted, they were missing in 2020.
Whilst I have always accepted that statistics of other race wins show it likely Trump lost; I will not ignore the factual claim that these results were counted and certified without standard monitoring.
Ignore it all you want in your choice winning but the faith in our system is shaken.
Simple yes or no. Did any person or persons inside or outside the capital that day attempt to overthrow any aspect of the government that was in office tat day?
No. The Trump administration was still in office. It’s that simple.
Even if the Left’s conspiracy theory of some organised dismissal of the results (rather than the complete verified recount nearly every Republican called for) is accurate it still doesn’t rise to insurrection. You may get some by the text judge to say treason. That could be argued for a few people involved.
But there was no insurrection.
It’s unfortunate you are completely and absolutely unable to accept that just shy of 50% if the population questions that election.
I will not condone the illegal actions of a small group on that day.
You ignore that the majority of people who claimed accurate and fair happen to be members of a party coming into power.
That they state no verification necessary is less than convincing on its own.
That a handful went further than protest and broke the law does not negate the concern any more than a handful violent thugs negate the message of uncontrollable police abuses.
But standing up for your vote is the American way.
Every citizen has the right to vote and every legally cast vote must be counted.
Every illegally cast vote must be discarded.
And everyone must speak up when their vote is at concern.
Violence and trespass and fear are not the correct method but the concern is none the less just.
This moment of time falls short of abolishment. It simply wasn’t insurrection. Unwise behaviour. Illegal acts from a few.
But far from an insurrection.
A key fact that the commission, democrats as a whole, and you; refuse to comprehend: the protest was against the potential future government, not a current seated one.
You can not have an insurrection against a government that does not exist.
insurrection: [noun] an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. ~MWCD
INSURRECTION. A rebellion of citizens or subjects of a country against its government ~ TFD/Leg
insurrection noun [ C/U ] us / ˌɪn·səˈrek·ʃən / an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government or ruler and take control of the country, usually by violence ~CUD
For all that can be said of that day, there simply was not an insurrection.
That would be because I don’t block cookies and tracking. I like targeted advertising.
I don’t want that changing anything.
I’m not understanding how the police did anything wrong here!
The person they stopped as part of a criminal investigation fit THREE descriptions!
Race, gender, and clothing!
The article itself points out his changing opinions.
And that’s my point. A clear example of how quickly one of their own, and to many MSM Dem commentators, he’s their god, would fall short of requirements.
I’m not clicking on a guardian link but is this the man who had just caused the armed ruckus, fled, and then refused to stop before entering another populated store?
The video I watched of that exchange showed excessive force, not wrongful interdiction.
Just saying.
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Not quite. WinZip was a GUI for PKZip on release. So it dates back to 1989 in public access. Alphas go back about another year or so from the BBS and CompuServe world.
In 95 it switched to InfoZip. Still someone else’s engine.
A stand-alone product of their own didn’t arrive until 2006 with general public release in 08. That was the zipX format variation.
7zip’s 7z definitely predates zipX.
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What’s wrong?
I fail to see what’s wrong with that.
If I toss you out of my house and you come back with a different shirt and ID it’s still you again.
When your tossed off the service you are tossed. Continually returning… you should face consequences!
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Very political move to answer the question without answering.
Can you read a ballot from six feet away?
No.
So the poll watchers were unable to verify they process.
Where did the Trump administration do anything during and leading to the election that violated the legally passed laws and rules and regulations?
In fact, where did they violate them afterwards?
I remind you claiming an election is stolen is protected speech.
It’s the right of any citizen to challenge the vote.
Etc.
Your so obsessed with the who you ignore the why. And the why is just as reasonable today as it was in 2000.
I have zero doubt you would be complaining if the election went the other way.
The difference is I’d be with you in concern if Trump won.
A governor can not modify election laws alone.
Let me touch on your opening.
No. The already had occupancy limit set by the mayor; at least in Chicago’s case. Not the number set in state regulation.
Democrats arrived early and took the spots set by the mayor.
So yes, barred outright.
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The terms drift but both those who watch voting and those who watch counting were effected.
Yet some locations had none.
Except… the watchers were also outside those windows.
Yes; quite. Doesn’t matter if the president or the governor. A proclamation can not ignore law. That’s why so many lawsuits happen against proclamations. Except when the time frame is days or weeks no court hearing has a chance to fix the concern.
A Governor, or mayor, etc, issuing rules in difference to state laws voted on by the state government is without legal standing by the state. Hence lawsuits.
Many which were dismissed as they came to docket after the elections.
It’s quite simple. A state Governor nor city mayor has the ability to overrule state election laws.
Covid-based executive proclamations that violated election laws are invalid. The election locations had the duty to carry out elections as per the state voted and passed laws. Not the whims of some executive.
What part of Trump lost makes my comments have anything to do with Trump theories on the election?
This is not about the results of 2020. It’s the integrity of the election stem.
I’m not a q saying trump won. I’m a citizen of this country saying it’s wrong to see an executive override voted for laws. At any level.
Poll watchers, by any term, are vital to the process.
The people who watch the votes. And the people who watch the count.
Who wins isn’t the concern. The integrity of the process is.
Without all of the balance in place:
Either you trust the winning party or ruling party to be honest.
Or you trust that 100% of the voting population to be honest.
Or both.
I’ve never heard of an honest politician. Not 100%.
Not even Lincoln or Washington.
The fact that this country has fraud crime covers the other.
The election process must be protected above all else. No matter what the circumstances.
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That’s just not going to happen. Not completely. In audio phonograph still makes up 10-17% of music sales. More than CDs today.
In video VHS releases still come out regularly enough. A few each month.
Some formats are so good at some specific aspect they never will disappear.
Just look at computing? LTO is still the choice for high-latency long term storage. LTO8 puts 30TB on a $50-$100 tape.
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Funny. You need to back and look into the process of elections in this country. Rather than what any news source says. Start with the wiki link above.
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Well here’s the first hit. Texas:
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/poll-watchersworkers-may-perform-duties-wi thin-6ft-others
Which already tells you right off it’s too far away. This was the standard in many lean-blue states and most cities. Cities like Chicago and Detroit who implemented state distance directives in violation of state election laws.
https://kslnewsradio.com/1934875/2020-election-explained-what-are-the-rules-for-poll-watchers/
…h as a nice breakdown based on Utah law. Which is the general idea across most states.
We had ballots counted in Fulton Georgia and Philadelphia in absence of watchers.
In some states Republican watchers were refused entry based on local covid occupancy restrictions, such as Georgia, Florida, and Colorado.
How about keeping them in an entirely different room, with windows covered, as happened in some Detroit locations?
All these actions are outside of the legal state regulations. Outside of state congressional bodies.
It would just as much be Democrats complaining it Trump was re-elected.
This can not happen again.
I have not once said fraud changed anything. I point out that such disregard for rules set in place by states should never again be allowed to be ignored. Because it invites fraud.
Find people willing to do the job they are hired for. If your unable to do so step aside for someone who will.
The poll watchers are part of the verification process. Taking a hike, as you say, is NOT an option.
They are volunteers there to verify the consistency and accuracy of the count.
They are there under state regulations voted for by congressional groups and passed by governors.
They can not be disregarded. Regardless of any pandemic situations.
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In many districts, especially in major cities, poll watcher were not within a distance capable of seeing the ballots.
In others they were barred outright. such as Chicago and Detroit.
They were sent home while counting continued, such as Pennsylvania.
The majority could not read ballots. 6 feet is too far for that.
Can you read a ballot from six feet away?
It’s not about fraud (I doubt there was much more than any other election).
It’s about the process.
I’m still upset the 2000 recount was stopped.
It’s never been about the winner for me. Some of us care about the process. Not the winner.
The process was comprised.
I don’t care if rover the dog won.
As long as it won within the boundaries of the law.
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From the article
There’s a separate story about the wheelchair man.
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I must apologise. I didn’t realise your level of understanding in the voting process was lacking.
You may want to look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrutineer
… that is if you care to educate yourself.
Poll watchers are a legitimate position. They are members of the parties on the ballot.
They sit, or stand, in direct view of the ballot counters as ballots are being counted.
Their job is but one, to verify, as ballots are counted, that the count is accurate.
They, poll watchers, are part of the state election process. By law in most states. By general practice in a few others.
There lack of direct access to the ballots being counted is the primary issue in many states including Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia.
When your job is to watch and record ballots as they are counted and your in another room, banned completely, or sent home for a utility issue, and the count happens anyway?
That’s a violation of the security and accuracy of our election process.
Covid was the claimed fault. But much like how I support vaccination mandates in health and hospitality…
If you were unwilling or unable to do the job you had, as a watcher or as a counter: that is if you were unwilling to sit next to or be sat next to… you give up your job to someone willing and able to do the job properly. End of discussion.
You follow the rules set out in statutes or step aside for someone willing to do it properly.
Otherwise the process is suspect.
My team? I’ve called for every violent protester to be arrested. Jan 6 and BLM.
Break the law go to jail.
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What lie am I believing?
And what Republican monitors?
As there was no monitoring.
There’s little doubt based on statistics that Trump was voted out of office.
That doesn’t change the fact that poll watchers weren’t able to watch.
Such a situation must NEVER be allowed to happen again.
The shaken faith is due to the violation of long accepted practice of having poll watchers in place.
Had their been poll watchers there wouldn’t be these questions.
Oh: Trump was president on Jan 6th. The relatively small assault that had broken out of that protest, criminals they were, were not trying to overthrow the Trump lead government.
No insurrection.
And maybe if people like you would stop lumping those who worry about future integrity of elections with the tiny loud crybaby group of stollen election zombies maybe you’d have some progress on the whole unify-the-country aspect.
I’m more interested in making sure election counts can be verified than any conspiracy about hanging chads.
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It is, by all polls that ask about the election and not the result.
A key difference so many refuse to comprehend.
I ignore nothing. I find it unacceptable that the faith in our elections have been shaken. The people with questions, there are enough, that it is concerning.
As far as government and administration go, in American politics they are, generally, interchangeable.
The entire ruling party can switch in an election here. Everything is constantly rotating.
Ultimately, you may be able to find treason by legal definition… for a small few that day.
But you won’t get insurrection.
I suggest you look at Egypt, Iran, Ireland, Viet Nam, Korea,… those were insurrections. Organised armed rebellions targeting the whole of the governmental system.
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I say exactly what I mean.
For the first time since partisan poll watchers were adopted, they were missing in 2020.
Whilst I have always accepted that statistics of other race wins show it likely Trump lost; I will not ignore the factual claim that these results were counted and certified without standard monitoring.
Ignore it all you want in your choice winning but the faith in our system is shaken.
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I wasn’t the one who brought that up.
all I said was he’d be in violation under the very toying with 230 as is being presented.
Any little mistake is just as much a violation as intentional misinformation.
Appears to be very bad law-making to me!
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Are you stating 230 should be changed?
Which side? Forced hosting or forced removal?
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Simple yes or no. Did any person or persons inside or outside the capital that day attempt to overthrow any aspect of the government that was in office tat day?
No. The Trump administration was still in office. It’s that simple.
Even if the Left’s conspiracy theory of some organised dismissal of the results (rather than the complete verified recount nearly every Republican called for) is accurate it still doesn’t rise to insurrection. You may get some by the text judge to say treason. That could be argued for a few people involved.
But there was no insurrection.
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It’s unfortunate you are completely and absolutely unable to accept that just shy of 50% if the population questions that election.
I will not condone the illegal actions of a small group on that day.
You ignore that the majority of people who claimed accurate and fair happen to be members of a party coming into power.
That they state no verification necessary is less than convincing on its own.
That a handful went further than protest and broke the law does not negate the concern any more than a handful violent thugs negate the message of uncontrollable police abuses.
But standing up for your vote is the American way.
Every citizen has the right to vote and every legally cast vote must be counted.
Every illegally cast vote must be discarded.
And everyone must speak up when their vote is at concern.
Violence and trespass and fear are not the correct method but the concern is none the less just.
This moment of time falls short of abolishment. It simply wasn’t insurrection. Unwise behaviour. Illegal acts from a few.
But far from an insurrection.
A key fact that the commission, democrats as a whole, and you; refuse to comprehend: the protest was against the potential future government, not a current seated one.
You can not have an insurrection against a government that does not exist.
For all that can be said of that day, there simply was not an insurrection.
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That would be because I don’t block cookies and tracking. I like targeted advertising.
I don’t want that changing anything.
I’m not understanding how the police did anything wrong here!
The person they stopped as part of a criminal investigation fit THREE descriptions!
Race, gender, and clothing!
How was that not proper?
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Typo.
The article itself points out his changing opinions.
And that’s my point. A clear example of how quickly one of their own, and to many MSM Dem commentators, he’s their god, would fall short of requirements.
All this messing around is very very bad.
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I’m not clicking on a guardian link but is this the man who had just caused the armed ruckus, fled, and then refused to stop before entering another populated store?
The video I watched of that exchange showed excessive force, not wrongful interdiction.
Just saying.
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