That Anonymous Coward (profile), 27 Dec 2018 @ 2:38pm
"Because we said so" is a horrible basis for a law & Congress should be ashamed for putting the rights of corporations above others.
My understanding of the DMCA, which can be flawed, is that the notices are supposed to be sent to the sites hosting the offending material.
Google hosts none of this content, merely indexes it, and yet are expected to deal with editing their index.
This doesn't remove the offending content & does nothing to "protect" their copyrights. This allows them to claim Google is at fault for all of this, that they should nerd harder to protect them. The government suffers from the delusion that Google is the internet & is the proper point for all demands & attacks.
The simple truth is that Google never fought back, because the **AA's are willing to burn millions of dollars on legal fights they have no hope of winning but will keep going until the earth is scorched and salted even if they lose in the end.
Google has to spent untold amounts of money & build system to deal with a barrage of a firehose of flawed computer generated notices that have nothing to do with them. The **AA's are happily paying companies to send these notices even if they are flawed because they don't care, they want to gain the ultimate in control and get everyone else to jump when they say so. Congress cares more about the **AA's saying we sent 2.5 billion notices & they didn't do enough, than Google saying of those notices only .0000001 billion were actually hosted on Google & we removed them.
They law pretends to hold both sides to the same standards yet you can send 10K bad notices & keep going... but if Google doesn't jump fast enough they will be forced to pay up. Penalty of perjury isn't a penalty when there is no enforcement of it.
We have courts ruling that these notices are proof of infringement & customers should be cut off on mere accusations & if not the ISP needs to pay the **AA's billions in damages. To view this another way, this is a bank being able to sue Ford because the bankrobbers drove a Ford. We can't find the bankrobbers but Ford needs to do something!! Of course the evidence they are 'bankrobbers' is a single frame of a video showing the accused were near the bank but not that they robbed it or did anything other than we saw them in a Ford.
We need to demand that facts actually win in this, not just paid for reports supporting conclusions that aren't real. Hell make them pay Google $1 for every notice they get that isn't hosted on Google servers & notice how quickly the notices will get better & stop flooding 3rd parties who aren't hosting the material, who are the ones the notices are supposed to target.
We have a flawed system and trying to fix it, given the track record, would make this an even larger clusterfuck. The problem is pretending the system isn't flawed & allowing the idea that a notice sent by someone with a financial interest in the result is impartial and correct.
There is an entire legal framework they could use, but it is easier to steamroll everyone else and make them bear the costs. I didn't remember that being part of the copyright act, that they get these rights (for a limited time HA!) & society needs to pay the costs to proactively protect them for them.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 26 Dec 2018 @ 10:59am
"Introduced a bill today that would remove liability protections for social media companies that use algorithms to hide, promote, or filter user content."
So ContentID would open YouTube up to liability?
It is so wonderful to see them pandering to the base who believe the lies. I wonder if we shoudl have a law that says everytime a Congresscritter lies they should be ejected from office. I have to think the sheer number of lies they tell dwarfs the actions of media platforms who have every right to run their business any fscking way they want.
We are the home of the brave, land of the free... unless we think there is a conspiracy then we can throw out all of the rights so we can force you to behave how we want!! They are just as bad or worse than the SJW who demand changes & once the camels nose in in the tent the entire herd comes in. (See also: Ban R.Kelly k thks, now here is a list of other artists we feel shouldn't be on the platform!!!)
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 26 Dec 2018 @ 9:20am
What in the actual fuck... We need Judges who understand tech or have to take a course in basic concepts before making rulings.
'The University cannot escape liability based on facially anonymous posts when, according to the Complaint, UMW never sought to discern whether it could identify the harassers.'
So the University needed to expend time and resources to file a lawsuit to force an online messaging program to 'identify' its users because a group of Feminists went on the app to see if people were saying mean things about them.
I went out looking to get offended & I was!!! So the one with the deepest pockets should pay me for not protecting me from other peoples free speech disagreeing with my free speech because only my speech is the good speech.
TL;DR - We offended everyone by demanding they live up to our standards & how dare they object!!!!
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 22 Dec 2018 @ 2:24am
It is so nice to see the courts throwing out the legal concepts & just falling into lockstep with our corporate masters.
This blog stole our music! Seized without due process, sat locked away waiting for 'evidence' that they didn't actually have or could provide, returned in a petulant fashion.
This website stole Hollywood! Well he has no actual contacts with the US, so lets just rule he isn't coming here so he is fleeing prosecution, lets take everyones stuff & even the people who had content Hollywood had nothing to do with can't have it unless Hollywood can make the accused pay. Lets threaten to destroy innocent peoples stuff, because it would be messy to bear the burden of returning innocent peoples stuff. Lets violate our laws & force other nations to violate their laws because US law is all that matters.
Because we said so. I guess the labels got sad that copyright trolls were making millions by getting the courts to accept everything they claim without any question. Lets ignore the case law supporting that an IP isn't a person & that 1 milisecond isn't really evidence & force the accused to turn their entire lives upside down to prove a negative & just smile & nod when the report comes back and says we didn't find anything but that is proof they deleted it in a way our expert couldn't detect.
The Magistrate is on the take.The Magistrate is on the take.The Magistrate is on the take.The Magistrate is on the take. 4 accusations, the Judicial Tenure board needs to relieve him of duty. The Magistrate would scream bloody murder about being punished on accusations of questionable veracity, but has no problem doing it to citizens. One can't even claim the notices are 100% accurate, b/c they hide the source code, how it is run, and look at the millions of bogus takedown notices hitting Google on the average day... but magically because they said so is all it takes for another corporation to fire a client or face millions in damages for looking at a notice that says we know you stole from us but give us $300 and we'll call it good & not forwarding it means the company is part of the evil cabal stealing billions from them.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Dec 2018 @ 1:16am
What timeline are we in? GW is insane in the realms of IP & crush first ask questions later is SOP. Perhaps they figured out they need to embrace fans, but I am sure it will be short lived.
Something something GW once claimed ownership of photos taken of their product, by a brick & mortar retailer, to announce they had arrived. Someone might have said loud enough for the rep, making threats on the phone to hear, they don't own the photos and they can kiss my entire fucking ass. Much back peddling followed after rep talked to the lawyer & lame excuses given that they were policing online sales (there was no shopping cart) with slashed prices (products were sold at MSRP like the contract says they have to). Rep might have heard that same voice, before the call ended, loudly saying 'What the fsck is wrong with these people? They can't even bother to make up decent lies when they screw up?'... so I hear...
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 20 Dec 2018 @ 11:40am
"When somebody spends hundreds of millions of dollars to develop the next movie or a billion dollars to develop the next heart medicine"
What are things that never happened? I dunno why they keep making movies, the paperwork says each one is a complete loss from the word go no matter how much it makes at the box office they get a tax writeoff for the loss.
No one is spending billions developing a drug, a majority always seems to go for lobbying and commercials convincing people they need this new drug & evergreening older drugs so they can keep gouging the public.
"Investigations led by HSI resulted in the removal of copyright-infringing websites that sold counterfeit airbags "
Why didn't they seize Toyota for using all of those Takata airbags that seemed pretty counterfeit as they harmed more than helped.
"A joint case between HSI and Department of Defense investigative agencies resulted in the removal of PRBlogics.com, a copyright-infringing website offering counterfeit integrated sensors."
My question is how many millions did we pay them before we figured out they were bunk?
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 20 Dec 2018 @ 4:39am
"A Royal Bank of Canada spokesman disputed that the bank had any such access."
A thought that occurs to me - is this sort of the problem they had with Cambridge?
They had no real idea how much access they got out of the partnership because FB only tells them about what they want to know. Why build controlled defined channels when you can just give them the firehose of data & tell them how to grab the info they want. No one would look at the rest of the stream to see what else they had access to, they are the good guys they are giving us data, we give them data and everyone is happy!
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 20 Dec 2018 @ 4:28am
"easier to bring a lawsuit against the person who uttered the words"
Uhh IIRC the new guy didn't say a damn thing about who he replaced. The typical bland PR about a new direction blah blah blah...
We need a federal anti-slapp law. We've seen all sorts of abuse of the legal system by bad actors who manage to 'win' because they have a bit more cash than the target.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 19 Dec 2018 @ 11:18am
Saw this after I saw a tweet about someone visiting a freind & they took the webpage he was going to & put it in a frame under a threat to pay up or else...
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 19 Dec 2018 @ 5:18am
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O M G.... I figured out why Verizon kept snapping up all of those failing things & working things they then ruined.... They were preparing themselves to withstand the protests for their next round of screwing with traffic...
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 19 Dec 2018 @ 3:52am
Ummmm...
'has taken measures to influence access to websites'
“A key rule in EU regulations in this area is that all traffic on the Internet should be treated equally by providers of internet connection services. PTS’s task is to monitor and ensure that the provisions on an open internet, also called network neutrality, are complied with.”
Unless someone can buy enough influence to get a court to destroy network neutrality by forcing them to treat some sites differently when the ISP merely provides a connection & not the site itself.
Do the provisions of an open internet have a loophole for corporations?? Isn't ordering an ISP to block access a violation of network neutrality, allowing corporations to cut off access to sites they dislike with the help of the courts?? For the system to work as claimed (I mean they didn't do shit when the country broke their own laws to appease Hollywood see also: Hollywood raids TPB, forced to return servers as no Swedish law was violated.) wouldn't they need to investigate a court demanding the ISP no longer be neutral in providing customers access to the internet? Or is it one of those special EU things where criminals can force search engines worldwide to remove links to their crimes or if someone misuses your data its a trillion dollar fine every 3 seconds?
If you want to pretend there is net neutrality, then court orders forcing an ISP to block access seem to be counter. The bank robbers used this road to get out of town, so we get an order demanding access to that road be cut off so the robbers can't drive to their destination again...
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My understanding of the DMCA, which can be flawed, is that the notices are supposed to be sent to the sites hosting the offending material.
Google hosts none of this content, merely indexes it, and yet are expected to deal with editing their index.
This doesn't remove the offending content & does nothing to "protect" their copyrights. This allows them to claim Google is at fault for all of this, that they should nerd harder to protect them. The government suffers from the delusion that Google is the internet & is the proper point for all demands & attacks.
The simple truth is that Google never fought back, because the **AA's are willing to burn millions of dollars on legal fights they have no hope of winning but will keep going until the earth is scorched and salted even if they lose in the end.
Google has to spent untold amounts of money & build system to deal with a barrage of a firehose of flawed computer generated notices that have nothing to do with them. The **AA's are happily paying companies to send these notices even if they are flawed because they don't care, they want to gain the ultimate in control and get everyone else to jump when they say so. Congress cares more about the **AA's saying we sent 2.5 billion notices & they didn't do enough, than Google saying of those notices only .0000001 billion were actually hosted on Google & we removed them.
They law pretends to hold both sides to the same standards yet you can send 10K bad notices & keep going... but if Google doesn't jump fast enough they will be forced to pay up. Penalty of perjury isn't a penalty when there is no enforcement of it.
We have courts ruling that these notices are proof of infringement & customers should be cut off on mere accusations & if not the ISP needs to pay the **AA's billions in damages. To view this another way, this is a bank being able to sue Ford because the bankrobbers drove a Ford. We can't find the bankrobbers but Ford needs to do something!! Of course the evidence they are 'bankrobbers' is a single frame of a video showing the accused were near the bank but not that they robbed it or did anything other than we saw them in a Ford.
We need to demand that facts actually win in this, not just paid for reports supporting conclusions that aren't real. Hell make them pay Google $1 for every notice they get that isn't hosted on Google servers & notice how quickly the notices will get better & stop flooding 3rd parties who aren't hosting the material, who are the ones the notices are supposed to target.
We have a flawed system and trying to fix it, given the track record, would make this an even larger clusterfuck. The problem is pretending the system isn't flawed & allowing the idea that a notice sent by someone with a financial interest in the result is impartial and correct.
There is an entire legal framework they could use, but it is easier to steamroll everyone else and make them bear the costs. I didn't remember that being part of the copyright act, that they get these rights (for a limited time HA!) & society needs to pay the costs to proactively protect them for them.
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So ContentID would open YouTube up to liability?
It is so wonderful to see them pandering to the base who believe the lies. I wonder if we shoudl have a law that says everytime a Congresscritter lies they should be ejected from office. I have to think the sheer number of lies they tell dwarfs the actions of media platforms who have every right to run their business any fscking way they want.
We are the home of the brave, land of the free... unless we think there is a conspiracy then we can throw out all of the rights so we can force you to behave how we want!! They are just as bad or worse than the SJW who demand changes & once the camels nose in in the tent the entire herd comes in. (See also: Ban R.Kelly k thks, now here is a list of other artists we feel shouldn't be on the platform!!!)
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We need Judges who understand tech or have to take a course in basic concepts before making rulings.
'The University cannot escape liability based on facially anonymous posts when, according to the Complaint, UMW never sought to discern whether it could identify the harassers.'
So the University needed to expend time and resources to file a lawsuit to force an online messaging program to 'identify' its users because a group of Feminists went on the app to see if people were saying mean things about them.
I went out looking to get offended & I was!!! So the one with the deepest pockets should pay me for not protecting me from other peoples free speech disagreeing with my free speech because only my speech is the good speech.
TL;DR - We offended everyone by demanding they live up to our standards & how dare they object!!!!
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Say it isn't so!
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This blog stole our music!
Seized without due process, sat locked away waiting for 'evidence' that they didn't actually have or could provide, returned in a petulant fashion.
This website stole Hollywood!
Well he has no actual contacts with the US, so lets just rule he isn't coming here so he is fleeing prosecution, lets take everyones stuff & even the people who had content Hollywood had nothing to do with can't have it unless Hollywood can make the accused pay. Lets threaten to destroy innocent peoples stuff, because it would be messy to bear the burden of returning innocent peoples stuff. Lets violate our laws & force other nations to violate their laws because US law is all that matters.
Because we said so.
I guess the labels got sad that copyright trolls were making millions by getting the courts to accept everything they claim without any question. Lets ignore the case law supporting that an IP isn't a person & that 1 milisecond isn't really evidence & force the accused to turn their entire lives upside down to prove a negative & just smile & nod when the report comes back and says we didn't find anything but that is proof they deleted it in a way our expert couldn't detect.
The Magistrate is on the take.The Magistrate is on the take.The Magistrate is on the take.The Magistrate is on the take.
4 accusations, the Judicial Tenure board needs to relieve him of duty.
The Magistrate would scream bloody murder about being punished on accusations of questionable veracity, but has no problem doing it to citizens. One can't even claim the notices are 100% accurate, b/c they hide the source code, how it is run, and look at the millions of bogus takedown notices hitting Google on the average day... but magically because they said so is all it takes for another corporation to fire a client or face millions in damages for looking at a notice that says we know you stole from us but give us $300 and we'll call it good & not forwarding it means the company is part of the evil cabal stealing billions from them.
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GW is insane in the realms of IP & crush first ask questions later is SOP. Perhaps they figured out they need to embrace fans, but I am sure it will be short lived.
Something something GW once claimed ownership of photos taken of their product, by a brick & mortar retailer, to announce they had arrived. Someone might have said loud enough for the rep, making threats on the phone to hear, they don't own the photos and they can kiss my entire fucking ass. Much back peddling followed after rep talked to the lawyer & lame excuses given that they were policing online sales (there was no shopping cart) with slashed prices (products were sold at MSRP like the contract says they have to). Rep might have heard that same voice, before the call ended, loudly saying 'What the fsck is wrong with these people? They can't even bother to make up decent lies when they screw up?'... so I hear...
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What are things that never happened?
I dunno why they keep making movies, the paperwork says each one is a complete loss from the word go no matter how much it makes at the box office they get a tax writeoff for the loss.
No one is spending billions developing a drug, a majority always seems to go for lobbying and commercials convincing people they need this new drug & evergreening older drugs so they can keep gouging the public.
"Investigations led by HSI resulted in the removal of copyright-infringing websites that sold counterfeit airbags "
Why didn't they seize Toyota for using all of those Takata airbags that seemed pretty counterfeit as they harmed more than helped.
"A joint case between HSI and Department of Defense investigative agencies resulted in the removal of PRBlogics.com, a copyright-infringing website offering counterfeit integrated sensors."
My question is how many millions did we pay them before we figured out they were bunk?
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LIONS WILL LAY DOWN WITH LAMBS!!!
And I'll watch 2 Netflix movies and then need to wait 30 days to get my next ration of bandwidth.
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A thought that occurs to me - is this sort of the problem they had with Cambridge?
They had no real idea how much access they got out of the partnership because FB only tells them about what they want to know. Why build controlled defined channels when you can just give them the firehose of data & tell them how to grab the info they want. No one would look at the rest of the stream to see what else they had access to, they are the good guys they are giving us data, we give them data and everyone is happy!
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Uhh IIRC the new guy didn't say a damn thing about who he replaced. The typical bland PR about a new direction blah blah blah...
We need a federal anti-slapp law.
We've seen all sorts of abuse of the legal system by bad actors who manage to 'win' because they have a bit more cash than the target.
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Which apparently means not a fscking thing.
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They were preparing themselves to withstand the protests for their next round of screwing with traffic...
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'has taken measures to influence access to websites'
“A key rule in EU regulations in this area is that all traffic on the Internet should be treated equally by providers of internet connection services. PTS’s task is to monitor and ensure that the provisions on an open internet, also called network neutrality, are complied with.”
Unless someone can buy enough influence to get a court to destroy network neutrality by forcing them to treat some sites differently when the ISP merely provides a connection & not the site itself.
Do the provisions of an open internet have a loophole for corporations??
Isn't ordering an ISP to block access a violation of network neutrality, allowing corporations to cut off access to sites they dislike with the help of the courts??
For the system to work as claimed (I mean they didn't do shit when the country broke their own laws to appease Hollywood see also: Hollywood raids TPB, forced to return servers as no Swedish law was violated.) wouldn't they need to investigate a court demanding the ISP no longer be neutral in providing customers access to the internet?
Or is it one of those special EU things where criminals can force search engines worldwide to remove links to their crimes or if someone misuses your data its a trillion dollar fine every 3 seconds?
If you want to pretend there is net neutrality, then court orders forcing an ISP to block access seem to be counter.
The bank robbers used this road to get out of town, so we get an order demanding access to that road be cut off so the robbers can't drive to their destination again...
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