Harsh but not permanently debilitating unless it's a severe crime or it's recurrent. That's what life sentences, capital punishment or long terms in jail are for. As for "we can't know if it was this, that, first or recurrent" I just wasn't as fast as you to call for his head on a pike (to paraphrase Paul). I stand firmly by the notion that the punishment should be enough to deter but not to cripple depending on the circumstances.
I absolutely agree with you. I had the two sides of the equation near me: one friend was driving drunk and killed a person and another friend was killed by a drunk driver. When I said I feel sorry it's because from what I read it was just a slip, he wasn't a bad person and doesn't do bad things generally.
I also don't know how drunk he was. Here you'll get the full force of law if you have more than 0 alcohol in your blood whereas in the UK it's incredibly high (0,8 mg/L in your breath if memory serves). In both cases you aren't drunk enough to actually cause accidents. So yeah, I agree with you but I evaluate the story taking into account other factors.
I do agree with you. But I'm assuming this was not recurrent (ie: it was a slip). It's wrong, he should face punishment yes but it could have just been an err.
However I have a problem with your "let's-nuke-this-guy's-life" way of thinking. He should be punished? Absolutely. In a way that destroys his life? Not unless he does it repeatedly.
If he does it again after the first lighter punishment then we may talk about a few years in jail or even something more severe if he keeps doing anyway. But for a single offense? A fine, some educational courses and community service should suffice.
If we punish in a draconian way we leave people with no recourse but to turn to crime to survive. We don't want that.
Some of us will remember old 'out of the blue' troll that kept whining how copyright being used as censorship were all anomalies. Well, he could as well as be a Govt employee because that's how the Govt handles most things like this:
Govt - It won't happen, trust us! Sane person - It has already happened before [pointing at factual events]. Govt - No worries dear citizen, it was an anomnaly and won't happen again! Sane person - That's what you said last time. Govt - But this time we are absolutely positively sure it won't happen! Sane person - Erm.. It seems it already happened [points at leaks]. Govt - CUUUUUUURSE YOU MASNICK!!!!
(This last part is fictitious and was added as an artistic touch pretending the Govt employee in the conversation is our beloved and absent troll)
“I’d say there is little to no chance that Congress would get involved with any kind of classified media leak investigation,” he said. “Could they? Sure. Do they? No.”
Until those powers are used by a more censorship happy Congress. Am I the only one worried about the fact that they have the power to do it?
"Look, there's no joy in understanding that Talbot's emarrassment has multiplied because of his admittedly hilarious attempt at a coverup, but the world does need to understand that attempts to hide information in this manner will only result in it being further spread. "
I kind of feel sorry for the guy as his "crime" is pretty mundane. But hell yes there is joy in Streisand. Otherwise you wouldn't be the one writing about them when they happen.
So, cheers for the inevitable next Streisand Effect! Because people never learn.
Weird, once you buy the subscription you get an e-mail with the receipt and another one with an activation link where you can either associate it with a new account or login with an existing one and do said association. It takes a few minutes to fully activate and you may have to logout and login again.
If a private entity is doing something for the Government AND being paid on top of it then it is representing the State in that specific task. It's only natural they are subject to the same restrictions the Government is. Hopefully this venue of warrantlessly snooping on other people equipment is closed asap.
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I also don't know how drunk he was. Here you'll get the full force of law if you have more than 0 alcohol in your blood whereas in the UK it's incredibly high (0,8 mg/L in your breath if memory serves). In both cases you aren't drunk enough to actually cause accidents. So yeah, I agree with you but I evaluate the story taking into account other factors.
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However I have a problem with your "let's-nuke-this-guy's-life" way of thinking. He should be punished? Absolutely. In a way that destroys his life? Not unless he does it repeatedly.
If he does it again after the first lighter punishment then we may talk about a few years in jail or even something more severe if he keeps doing anyway. But for a single offense? A fine, some educational courses and community service should suffice.
If we punish in a draconian way we leave people with no recourse but to turn to crime to survive. We don't want that.
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Govt - It won't happen, trust us!
Sane person - It has already happened before [pointing at factual events].
Govt - No worries dear citizen, it was an anomnaly and won't happen again!
Sane person - That's what you said last time.
Govt - But this time we are absolutely positively sure it won't happen!
Sane person - Erm.. It seems it already happened [points at leaks].
Govt - CUUUUUUURSE YOU MASNICK!!!!
(This last part is fictitious and was added as an artistic touch pretending the Govt employee in the conversation is our beloved and absent troll)
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Priceless.
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STASI 2.0 ready
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Until those powers are used by a more censorship happy Congress. Am I the only one worried about the fact that they have the power to do it?
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I kind of feel sorry for the guy as his "crime" is pretty mundane. But hell yes there is joy in Streisand. Otherwise you wouldn't be the one writing about them when they happen.
So, cheers for the inevitable next Streisand Effect! Because people never learn.
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I'd rather donate directly but yeah it's an idea!
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No?
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