Would that be "Canada" the bureaucrats and politicians who will continue to negotiate this in secret?
Or would that be "Canada" the people thereof who have no friggin' idea of what is being negotiated in their name?
It's always good to get some opposing views and additional information so I've been doing some reading on the trichordist site. There's some really useful stuff for musicians on there.
But there's also some odd stuff.
Under their "practical knowledge" section there's an article called "Twenty Questions for New Artists" which has some nice advice about the legal side of setting up a band.
But the article is preceeded with this quote:
"TERMS OF USE
This article is made available under the terms of use at http://www.musictechpolicymonthly.com/podcast/mtppodcasttermsofuse.pdf and the following:
1. This article may not be reproduced as part of a webpage, i.e, you are not permitted to “cut and paste” the article or any part of it on a webpage, or uploaded to a hosting
website such as scribd.com or a comparable site.
2. You may link to the article at this link: http://www.semaphoremusic.
com/2mtp/gratis2/twentyquestionsfornewartists.pdf. If this link does not work, contact the authors.
3. You may not post a link to this article on any website that is not subject to the laws of the United States.
4. You may not post a link to this article on any website that has not registered an online service provider agent with the U.S. Copyright Office
(http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/list/a_agents.html).
5. Any link to this article shall use the title and authors names, shall not change the title and shall not credit anyone other than the authors as the writers.
All other rights are reserved by the authors.
Please respect copyright."
There's quite a lot wrong with that from a legal perspective that you'd really hope that someone campaigning for copyright would understand. First and foremost the concept of fair use.
So yes I will cut and paste that here and no I won't ask for permission.
The "please respect copyright" on the end is, in the context, hilarious.
I actually liked some of the Cracker stuff (I have a couple of their cds, funnily enough I bought them after a friend made me a copy...) so I did a bit of reading around what else Mr L has done.
Interestingly Camper Van Beethoven's discography includes a complete re-working of Fleetwood Mac's album Tusk.
I struggle to get my head round the mindset that can see how this is a worthwhile addition to the greater musical canon but at the same time is willing to write-off any creation from non-professional musicians, no matter how creative.
No. The debate is what's happening here in the comments. And in all kinds of other blogs and fora all over the web. Some with a pro-copyright, some with an anti-copyright and some with a huh-how-the-hell-did-I-end-up-talking-about-copyright approach.
Except on the trichordist...
So your objection is that about 800 people favour doing something about it and about 700 don't.
Seems like they should cancel each other out fairly nicely...
And this has precisely what to do with this article?
There's a submit a story link at the bottom of the page.
Personally I'm hoping Mike does pick up on this because Lowery's letter, whilst being considerably more polite than most of his rants, has so many holes in it that it's pretty excruciating reading.
... but...
Actually I don't know. But what? The only people who seem to use patents as part of their business model are the trolls and dying former-technological-leaders-looking-to-stave-off-bankruptcy.
Ok, so have a look at how WIPO does things. Far greater transparency.
But let's take your representative democracy point. The very committee that was set up (by the representatives) to oversee this process is being denied access.
Now it could be the best treaty in the world ever, but as long as you have stuff like that happening it looks corrupt.
As to the "it's difficult therefore there's no point in trying to improve it" argument, well, that doesn't seem like a particularly quick route to progress.
This appears to be a major stumbling block in a lot of pro-copyright arguments.
When I was a kid I bought cheap blank tapes and recorded stuff off the radio. The content was, to all extents and purposes, free.
But did I value that content? Of course I did! Those tapes got played hundreds of times. Gradually they've been replaced by CDs, records or MP3s. The stuff that I didn't value never got replaced.
Price had no impact on this process.
You appear to be able to handle a state of cognitive dissonance very easily.
Either copies of files are no big deal (in which case what is this case about?) or copies of files are property (in which case the government has seized vast amounts of property without due process and is denying people access to their property or even the chance at redress).
Please pick one and then we can continue the discussion.
The only thing that is remotely reassuring about this is, as Jake says, that our track-record of delivering large IT systems is sooo bad.
Unfortunately, unlike the previous government, this one seems to have realised that and hence they are shifting the requirements (and the work & expense) onto the ISPs. Meaning that it could actually work.
Proxies, encryptions and a little macro to randomly click web-links might be the way forward.
I might start sending empty envelopes around as well.
Actually, if I'm going to that much effort, I may as well set myself up as a full-on spam merchant.
That seems like a very narrow view to me. You seem to be taking no account of ripple effects or anything other than the headline numbers. Given your A to E requirements above, why would any entrepreneur come to the US when other countries offer them far better options?
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Or would that be "Canada" the people thereof who have no friggin' idea of what is being negotiated in their name?
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Reading around the subject
But there's also some odd stuff.
Under their "practical knowledge" section there's an article called "Twenty Questions for New Artists" which has some nice advice about the legal side of setting up a band.
But the article is preceeded with this quote:
"TERMS OF USE
This article is made available under the terms of use at
http://www.musictechpolicymonthly.com/podcast/mtppodcasttermsofuse.pdf and the following:
1. This article may not be reproduced as part of a webpage, i.e, you are not permitted to “cut and paste” the article or any part of it on a webpage, or uploaded to a hosting
website such as scribd.com or a comparable site.
2. You may link to the article at this link: http://www.semaphoremusic.
com/2mtp/gratis2/twentyquestionsfornewartists.pdf. If this link does not work, contact the authors.
3. You may not post a link to this article on any website that is not subject to the laws of the United States.
4. You may not post a link to this article on any website that has not registered an online service provider agent with the U.S. Copyright Office
(http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/list/a_agents.html).
5. Any link to this article shall use the title and authors names, shall not change the title and shall not credit anyone other than the authors as the writers.
All other rights are reserved by the authors.
Please respect copyright."
There's quite a lot wrong with that from a legal perspective that you'd really hope that someone campaigning for copyright would understand. First and foremost the concept of fair use.
So yes I will cut and paste that here and no I won't ask for permission.
The "please respect copyright" on the end is, in the context, hilarious.
I actually liked some of the Cracker stuff (I have a couple of their cds, funnily enough I bought them after a friend made me a copy...) so I did a bit of reading around what else Mr L has done.
Interestingly Camper Van Beethoven's discography includes a complete re-working of Fleetwood Mac's album Tusk.
I struggle to get my head round the mindset that can see how this is a worthwhile addition to the greater musical canon but at the same time is willing to write-off any creation from non-professional musicians, no matter how creative.
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Except on the trichordist...
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Cue first troll in...
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Seems like they should cancel each other out fairly nicely...
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There's a submit a story link at the bottom of the page.
Personally I'm hoping Mike does pick up on this because Lowery's letter, whilst being considerably more polite than most of his rants, has so many holes in it that it's pretty excruciating reading.
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but but but...
Actually I don't know. But what? The only people who seem to use patents as part of their business model are the trolls and dying former-technological-leaders-looking-to-stave-off-bankruptcy.
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But let's take your representative democracy point. The very committee that was set up (by the representatives) to oversee this process is being denied access.
Now it could be the best treaty in the world ever, but as long as you have stuff like that happening it looks corrupt.
As to the "it's difficult therefore there's no point in trying to improve it" argument, well, that doesn't seem like a particularly quick route to progress.
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price != value
When I was a kid I bought cheap blank tapes and recorded stuff off the radio. The content was, to all extents and purposes, free.
But did I value that content? Of course I did! Those tapes got played hundreds of times. Gradually they've been replaced by CDs, records or MP3s. The stuff that I didn't value never got replaced.
Price had no impact on this process.
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Either copies of files are no big deal (in which case what is this case about?) or copies of files are property (in which case the government has seized vast amounts of property without due process and is denying people access to their property or even the chance at redress).
Please pick one and then we can continue the discussion.
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oh wait...
* checks definition of "troll" on urban dictionary *
ah, I see...
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Unfortunately, unlike the previous government, this one seems to have realised that and hence they are shifting the requirements (and the work & expense) onto the ISPs. Meaning that it could actually work.
Proxies, encryptions and a little macro to randomly click web-links might be the way forward.
I might start sending empty envelopes around as well.
Actually, if I'm going to that much effort, I may as well set myself up as a full-on spam merchant.
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