PK is Public Knowledge, who our AC believes is his mortal enemy for being an advocate of consumer's rights.
CDT is the Center of Democracy and Technology. Honestly, I never heard of them until Mr. Sunshine mentioned them in his rants. I just researched them as recently as tonight. I don't agree that copyright needs to be balanced between consumer's rights and those of the business sector. Rather, it makes sense to align them both accordingly. I agree with Mike here where he describes the myth of a balance. If both sides are slightly worse off because of a balance, why do it?
Public Knowledge raises awareness around consumer concerns. Right now, they're focusing on the TMobile/AT&T merger, trying to get the FCC to see reason. Yeah...
I fully expect the merger to go through and the commissioners to have a job there in the next few months.
"There are a lot of people reading things into Protect IP and similar laws that don't exist. For example, there is a lot of FUD going around saying that the Commercial Felony Streaming Act will making watching a lot of videos illegal. "
Translation: There are a lot of vague and overbroad problems with S978 which could be used to bring litigation against people for watching videos as well as streaming *any* copyrighted material regardless of if it's fair use or not.
The problem is that S978 is too vague and overbroad. This is why people are writing letters and posting about how it could be used to criminalize what has become accepted behavior online.
You mean the Protect IP Act wasn't the ACTA in disguise? So we have to deal with more laws that are byzantine, unnecessarily bureaucratic, draconian, and against consumer wishes? All because a few industry's can't figure out how to make money on the internet, the rest of the world has to suffer?
That sure is a great way to "Progress the Arts and Sciences" as based on the ideals of our forefathers...
"Jay, armed robbery is also an economic problem, nothing more. "
Bullshit. The threat of force is used in your example. You're threatening someone with their life if they don't give up items of monetary value. In no way does copyright infringement harm anyone's physical well being. Your apples and oranges comparison does not apply when the civil issue of piracy is applied to the criminal issue of armed robbery.
"I mean, what the heck? It doesn't matter if he is hosting the feeds or he has a third party site doing it for him, his intent is to distribute pirated / illegal material."
It's unclear if some people felt the need to give donations for server costs or paid for the cheaper price. Fans would want to watch the game, no question. They may even love the cheaper fee. But there is nothing here saying they have harmed UFC or WWE economically when there are far more people willing to pay for the events (hence a look at their profits of last year) than the pirates on the outskirts.
It's also been discovered that those gosh darned pirates, through research commissioned by the MPAA, are the industry's best customers for ancillary products. Unless you can find a reason a 19 year old kid *needs* to be in jail with drug dealers, arsonist, and murderers, it's quite telling that you believe a non-violent crime of copyright infringement needs to be answered with such a harsh punishment.
" It looks like a lot more than that to me."
That might be trickery on the part of those "two" or three snowflakes. Since no one except Mike is able to look at IPs, the ways of changing your snowflake are as easy as logging off and logging on a computer.
"How many people are behind the "Jay" account?"
I find it hilarious how my account is so important in this context. I've established myself and so has Gabriel as two separate entities. There's only one person and unless you know my password, you don't have access to my registered account.
Good gracious, on another site there are *three* Jays running around. Two have an account, and a third is mainly posting anonymously. But people have found ways to differentiate between the three of us. Hell, I disagree with one of them and it's a battle of the Jays.
"When I see someone pretending that registered names uniquely identify posters... they're either dishonest or ignorant or both. "
So it's understood. Between the thousands of people that use Reddit forums, 4chan, Escapist, political forums, religious forums, gaming forums or anything else, you can't figure out a person's online persona through the words that they use. Got it.
In order, Jurassic 5, who don't curse in their rap.
Japanese rap, where they don't have ghettos in Japan.
Wu tang Clan. Because they're Asian due to the lottery.
French hip hop. Because they are actually Islamic based.
I just hate the stereotype that all rap is bad simply because no one likes it. Great, it's not to your style or taste of music, but no one forces you to listen to it.
According to a disclaimer on EA’s website, users who purchase any game from EA Origins may only download or access the game for a limit of one year before they might need to repurchase the title again to keep….unlike Steam’s system where the game stays on your account for good without the need of a repurchase.
Like the new Madden? Guess what, you can now repurchase it next year at no additional value to you? Want to trade it in? Well, it's going to disappear anyway... Tough shit dude.
Meanwhile, on Valve, you can now trade gift games. Honestly, is there ANY reason to use Origin? Why put yourself through such torture?
Seeing as how Michael D Smith has already said the same thing would occur close to a year ago, I fail to see how this is a win for you. It just proves that everyone knows what's going to happen in the digital field better than the older, more entrenched media outlets.
Basically, people will learn what they need to, law be damned, in order to watch their show. Offer better legal options than pirates and people are willing to spend their time with what you offer. Don't offer better benefits than the pirates then they'll use those options.
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Still not gonna read the report eh? Come on, Bucko, you're making yourself look worse. I don't appeal to authority here and all you're doing is throwing around words at this point.
The first question Have you read a report that utterly debunks the position that more enforcement is necessary?
Let's make it interesting. Let's pull up your old question when you had an account. There's more countries than Nigeria, China, and India. But it seems you're more intent on being more trollish than anything else. We both know you're smarter than the words you choose to use.
Second question:
Just more on a personal side note actually... Why do you have a problem with research yet never bring your own?
You have the floor, man. From what it seems to me, you want to run a well funded propaganda campaign, I'm not one to stop you. But it's still sad that you always resort to such sad tactics instead of actually standing by your words in a debate. I say there's more and more evidence collecting every week showing the inaccuracies of more and more copyright enforcement.
If you want copyright to work, you don't need more of it. As said before, you already have the DMCA, the NET Act, along with a ton of case law showing the ineffectiveness of copyright enforcement. You can look at how piracy is confronted in Brazil, causing very high prices on entertainment (as noted by Karaganis) and more people to respond by going to cheaper sources of entertainment. Hell man, most people outside of the US use torrents to gain access to US TV shows. No one has to justify piracy, it happens for the reasons you quoted. So the final question:
When do the corporations learn to compete for consumer's attentions instead of trying to criminalize them?
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CDT is the Center of Democracy and Technology. Honestly, I never heard of them until Mr. Sunshine mentioned them in his rants. I just researched them as recently as tonight. I don't agree that copyright needs to be balanced between consumer's rights and those of the business sector. Rather, it makes sense to align them both accordingly. I agree with Mike here where he describes the myth of a balance. If both sides are slightly worse off because of a balance, why do it?
Public Knowledge raises awareness around consumer concerns. Right now, they're focusing on the TMobile/AT&T merger, trying to get the FCC to see reason. Yeah...
I fully expect the merger to go through and the commissioners to have a job there in the next few months.
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a little more detail, please?
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Translation: There are a lot of vague and overbroad problems with S978 which could be used to bring litigation against people for watching videos as well as streaming *any* copyrighted material regardless of if it's fair use or not.
The problem is that S978 is too vague and overbroad. This is why people are writing letters and posting about how it could be used to criminalize what has become accepted behavior online.
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Tim usually handles the game writeups nowadays.
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Wait a second...
That sure is a great way to "Progress the Arts and Sciences" as based on the ideals of our forefathers...
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So how do you stop piracy, AC?
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Bullshit. The threat of force is used in your example. You're threatening someone with their life if they don't give up items of monetary value. In no way does copyright infringement harm anyone's physical well being. Your apples and oranges comparison does not apply when the civil issue of piracy is applied to the criminal issue of armed robbery.
"I mean, what the heck? It doesn't matter if he is hosting the feeds or he has a third party site doing it for him, his intent is to distribute pirated / illegal material."
It's unclear if some people felt the need to give donations for server costs or paid for the cheaper price. Fans would want to watch the game, no question. They may even love the cheaper fee. But there is nothing here saying they have harmed UFC or WWE economically when there are far more people willing to pay for the events (hence a look at their profits of last year) than the pirates on the outskirts.
It's also been discovered that those gosh darned pirates, through research commissioned by the MPAA, are the industry's best customers for ancillary products. Unless you can find a reason a 19 year old kid *needs* to be in jail with drug dealers, arsonist, and murderers, it's quite telling that you believe a non-violent crime of copyright infringement needs to be answered with such a harsh punishment.
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This story just helped me find a great "alternative" to Real Networks. Mission accomplished.
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How'd they get dissed?
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Re: Piraters
You've happily died since 1985
Continue to resurrect and die in peace...
Oooh, new sale!
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Amazon
I'm not seeing a limit on an account, where EA has also had a deactivation limit, if you don't use your account in two years.
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Re: And then fire
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Re: Re: @ AC's for posts 63 and 64
That might be trickery on the part of those "two" or three snowflakes. Since no one except Mike is able to look at IPs, the ways of changing your snowflake are as easy as logging off and logging on a computer.
"How many people are behind the "Jay" account?"
I find it hilarious how my account is so important in this context. I've established myself and so has Gabriel as two separate entities. There's only one person and unless you know my password, you don't have access to my registered account.
Good gracious, on another site there are *three* Jays running around. Two have an account, and a third is mainly posting anonymously. But people have found ways to differentiate between the three of us. Hell, I disagree with one of them and it's a battle of the Jays.
"When I see someone pretending that registered names uniquely identify posters... they're either dishonest or ignorant or both. "
So it's understood. Between the thousands of people that use Reddit forums, 4chan, Escapist, political forums, religious forums, gaming forums or anything else, you can't figure out a person's online persona through the words that they use. Got it.
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In order, Jurassic 5, who don't curse in their rap.
Japanese rap, where they don't have ghettos in Japan.
Wu tang Clan. Because they're Asian due to the lottery.
French hip hop. Because they are actually Islamic based.
I just hate the stereotype that all rap is bad simply because no one likes it. Great, it's not to your style or taste of music, but no one forces you to listen to it.
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Re: punkbuster
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It gets even better!
According to a disclaimer on EA’s website, users who purchase any game from EA Origins may only download or access the game for a limit of one year before they might need to repurchase the title again to keep….unlike Steam’s system where the game stays on your account for good without the need of a repurchase.
Like the new Madden? Guess what, you can now repurchase it next year at no additional value to you? Want to trade it in? Well, it's going to disappear anyway... Tough shit dude.
Meanwhile, on Valve, you can now trade gift games. Honestly, is there ANY reason to use Origin? Why put yourself through such torture?
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Basically, people will learn what they need to, law be damned, in order to watch their show. Offer better legal options than pirates and people are willing to spend their time with what you offer. Don't offer better benefits than the pirates then they'll use those options.
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Re:
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The first question
Have you read a report that utterly debunks the position that more enforcement is necessary?
Let's make it interesting. Let's pull up your old question when you had an account. There's more countries than Nigeria, China, and India. But it seems you're more intent on being more trollish than anything else. We both know you're smarter than the words you choose to use.
Second question:
Just more on a personal side note actually...
Why do you have a problem with research yet never bring your own?
You have the floor, man. From what it seems to me, you want to run a well funded propaganda campaign, I'm not one to stop you. But it's still sad that you always resort to such sad tactics instead of actually standing by your words in a debate. I say there's more and more evidence collecting every week showing the inaccuracies of more and more copyright enforcement.
If you want copyright to work, you don't need more of it. As said before, you already have the DMCA, the NET Act, along with a ton of case law showing the ineffectiveness of copyright enforcement. You can look at how piracy is confronted in Brazil, causing very high prices on entertainment (as noted by Karaganis) and more people to respond by going to cheaper sources of entertainment. Hell man, most people outside of the US use torrents to gain access to US TV shows. No one has to justify piracy, it happens for the reasons you quoted. So the final question:
When do the corporations learn to compete for consumer's attentions instead of trying to criminalize them?
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