Still you should think of any anti-piracy technologies as if they were just another version of quotation marks. Basically you should consider the positive change those technologies can do to the world, instead of focusing on the negative. Your pessimistic attitude is what is causing all the horror, when you should be focusing your efforts to finding positive change that these anti-piracy technologies can bring to the world.
would require such a deep sabotaging of the program itself that said sabotaging would render the program useless to everyone.
As my quote marks and copyright synbol example shows, the copyright protection features do not need to break the other features of the said text editor.
What proof do you have that text editor developers support pirates and terrorists?
Actually, I have the opposite proof, i.e. that text editor authors sabotaged their product, when they introduced "quote marks" and "copyright symbol" to their font files and text editor key bindings and ruined their product with additional features whose only purpose is to harrass pirates and make copyright owners life easier by making it easy to identify quoted text and copyright notices. This feature is clearly only for copyright purpose, and as you promised to avoid sabotaged products, you now need to stop using all text editors that support quote marks and copyright symbol.
Someone who makes a text editor doesn’t “support[ ]terrorists and copyright infringement”
There's significant conflict in your message.
there's 3 elements in the conflict:
1) "Intentionally sabotage the functionality of said programs"
2) "once people find out the software has been sabotaged, they won’t want to keep using it"
3) "Someone who makes a text editor doesn't support pirates.
But you didn't bother to check the functionality of meshpage/builder at all, so the point (1) and (2) isn't actually important. Then you need to use (3) to avoid the question why your users don't flee from your offering when you support pirates (and terrorists).
Basically you're in logical conflict and you should fix your logic.
Yes, and it stays there because nobody wants to visit your failure of a server.
Sure, but now you can't claim that there isn't any technical solutions that are able to solve the problem. So we can go back to the suing those vendors whose systems have copyright infringing activity happening.
Your master plan has a flaw the size of the Grand Canyon, and it’s called “you don’t think about other people”.
So how you go from "preventing copyright infringement" to "sabotaging software"? When it's clearly stated in the law that copyright infringement is illegal, technology vendors will need to do all they can to prevent those misuses. Otherwise you're supporting illegal activity? The people you're talking about do not start avoiding your software once they find out that you're supporting terrorists and copyright infringers?
you should not focus on "what you cannot do", but you should be thinking "what can be done"... There's plenty of stuff that actually makes copyrights easier to control that are easy to do technically.
There's a solution called "web server", which only allows transferring the file to specially marked browser sandbox. Then your client-side web browser implements sandbox and marks it with some key. Then server verifies the key before sending the file to the sandbox, and the allowed sandbox keeps the files tightly locked inside that sandbox, never giving a copy of the file to the user.
This is exactly what youtube does with youtube videos. And then youtube-dl which can bypass this process and give copies of the files to the user's control, can be sued out of existence.
Our position is that the criminal aspect needs to be removed completely by product vendors. It is always technically possible, and thus its just about whether the tech developer wants to support piracy ecosystem or not. Thus tech devs can be sued when there is proof of illegal activity happening anywhere in their systems.
Technology doesn’t do context. You can’t make a camera that can differentiate between a legal use (filming your own movie) and an illegal use (filming someone else’s movie in a theater)—
Technical solution to this is shorten your video camera shutter speed enough that the frame rate of the movie theater causes huge flickering when stored to the camera. This makes all pirated filming in theater impossible to watch. Unfortunately this practice with causing camera to record flickering output was declared illegal at some point, because some people get real medical problems with watching flickering lights/screens. This is why some star wars movies have warnings about flicker. So basically context isn't needed, there's always tech solutions like this available if you truly want to prevent these use case. Another problem with this solution is that all cameras in the world need to be modified for it to be effective, so they're always looking for stuff that doesn't really require such big changes.
you're actually picking the main reason why it was laughed at as it's best feature?
Its just hilarious. If you want real blunders, check batman phone, it had some nice black colour that made users drop the ball after 15 minutes of watching the desktop background image with horrible headache.
it also has a legal use case that justifies its continued existence?
I think this is the first time that you admit that my software has a use case that justifies its continued existence. Usually its just bashing and not admittng usefulness of the software.
I can't understand what you're doing in Meshpage and I have a minor in Computer Science.
My own experience is that 10-15 year olds can read "amiga hardware reference manuals" and write assembler code and high school level kids can write compete computer games released in real publisher (with amiga)... While the tech environment has slightly changed after amiga times, I simply cannot assume that high school level kids are alot more stupider than what we did when we were young. If you have trouble understanding meshpage, then maybe you're not in correct area of expertise.
What makes you think preteens would understand what you're doing?
I used to be young too. And whlie I understand that young people have challenges with learning all the necessary technologies, I simply cannot declare them idiots simply because internet thinks the technologies are not suitable for that young people.
That doesn't mean you get to outlaw all the tech and the vast amount of extra value they give to everybody
Vendors of the hardware like video cameras, still shot cameras, tape recorders, usb sticks, ssd disks, hard disks, etc need to look for illegal uses of their hardware and actively prevent misuses. This means examining the technology environment where the products will be used, and prevent combinations that are likely to be used for piracy. This applies to vendors of larger than usual hard disks, video/webcam vendors, audio vendors, dvd recorders, browsers, protocol developers, router vendors, kernel developers, etc... Anything that can handle pirated data/streams. The vendors need to work together to actively prevent misuses of their gadgets.
Simply sticking your head to sand is not acceptable.
When you consider all of this it's not surprising that Tero considers the NGAGE to be a crowning achievement.
Yes, it's nice that it arrived so early in the process. It was only our 3rd or 4th phone model we implemented and it still managed to break the bank. Tech people didn't like it much, but the general public just loved it.
After ngage we just implemented all the other s60 phones, but ngage with their mickey mouse ears-calling feature just made our day and thus we still remember it fondly years after it arrived.
This assumes that the only concern is if some network-side tracking entity notices you're reading the material. But this isn't the main concern in the legal sphere. In fact, this indicates that you just want to get away with your illegal acts by hiding your network traffic from trackers.
But the real concern is your access to information which you're unable to handle. For example wikileaks have revealed tons of war memos which contain information that ordinary humans are not supposed to know about, and it could even be dangerous if read by children who do not appreciate the seriousness of the actions contained within the material. Some poor children learn that such activities are allowed within our system, and they use that information instincticly 50 years later when they have gained good position as a wingman of some army general. This all could be dangerous and the confidential information limitations are actually protecting consumers from the harms contained in the material.
It isn't just embarrasements of governments or hiding wrongdoing that confidential flags in documents are closing. It's also information that is too sensitive or flamboyant that it needs to be closed from the world.
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Still you should think of any anti-piracy technologies as if they were just another version of quotation marks. Basically you should consider the positive change those technologies can do to the world, instead of focusing on the negative. Your pessimistic attitude is what is causing all the horror, when you should be focusing your efforts to finding positive change that these anti-piracy technologies can bring to the world.
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As my quote marks and copyright synbol example shows, the copyright protection features do not need to break the other features of the said text editor.
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Actually, I have the opposite proof, i.e. that text editor authors sabotaged their product, when they introduced "quote marks" and "copyright symbol" to their font files and text editor key bindings and ruined their product with additional features whose only purpose is to harrass pirates and make copyright owners life easier by making it easy to identify quoted text and copyright notices. This feature is clearly only for copyright purpose, and as you promised to avoid sabotaged products, you now need to stop using all text editors that support quote marks and copyright symbol.
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There's significant conflict in your message.
there's 3 elements in the conflict:
1) "Intentionally sabotage the functionality of said programs"
2) "once people find out the software has been sabotaged, they won’t want to keep using it"
3) "Someone who makes a text editor doesn't support pirates.
But you didn't bother to check the functionality of meshpage/builder at all, so the point (1) and (2) isn't actually important. Then you need to use (3) to avoid the question why your users don't flee from your offering when you support pirates (and terrorists).
Basically you're in logical conflict and you should fix your logic.
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This was already proven false, but you said that the people will just avoid my web server. Technology can prevent copyright infringement.
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I actually did the blunder myself. Someone else did the mickey mouse ears feature.
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Sure, but now you can't claim that there isn't any technical solutions that are able to solve the problem. So we can go back to the suing those vendors whose systems have copyright infringing activity happening.
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So how you go from "preventing copyright infringement" to "sabotaging software"? When it's clearly stated in the law that copyright infringement is illegal, technology vendors will need to do all they can to prevent those misuses. Otherwise you're supporting illegal activity? The people you're talking about do not start avoiding your software once they find out that you're supporting terrorists and copyright infringers?
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you should not focus on "what you cannot do", but you should be thinking "what can be done"... There's plenty of stuff that actually makes copyrights easier to control that are easy to do technically.
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There's a solution called "web server", which only allows transferring the file to specially marked browser sandbox. Then your client-side web browser implements sandbox and marks it with some key. Then server verifies the key before sending the file to the sandbox, and the allowed sandbox keeps the files tightly locked inside that sandbox, never giving a copy of the file to the user.
This is exactly what youtube does with youtube videos. And then youtube-dl which can bypass this process and give copies of the files to the user's control, can be sued out of existence.
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Step #1: Remove both copies and make them impossible to obtain
Step #2: Allow only the legal case.
Step #3: Done.
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Our position is that the criminal aspect needs to be removed completely by product vendors. It is always technically possible, and thus its just about whether the tech developer wants to support piracy ecosystem or not. Thus tech devs can be sued when there is proof of illegal activity happening anywhere in their systems.
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Technical solution to this is shorten your video camera shutter speed enough that the frame rate of the movie theater causes huge flickering when stored to the camera. This makes all pirated filming in theater impossible to watch. Unfortunately this practice with causing camera to record flickering output was declared illegal at some point, because some people get real medical problems with watching flickering lights/screens. This is why some star wars movies have warnings about flicker. So basically context isn't needed, there's always tech solutions like this available if you truly want to prevent these use case. Another problem with this solution is that all cameras in the world need to be modified for it to be effective, so they're always looking for stuff that doesn't really require such big changes.
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Its just hilarious. If you want real blunders, check batman phone, it had some nice black colour that made users drop the ball after 15 minutes of watching the desktop background image with horrible headache.
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if you need 2 cubes, you still need to figure out how to create or clone one.
yes, my tool still doesnt have 15 years of development behnd it.
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I think this is the first time that you admit that my software has a use case that justifies its continued existence. Usually its just bashing and not admittng usefulness of the software.
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My own experience is that 10-15 year olds can read "amiga hardware reference manuals" and write assembler code and high school level kids can write compete computer games released in real publisher (with amiga)... While the tech environment has slightly changed after amiga times, I simply cannot assume that high school level kids are alot more stupider than what we did when we were young. If you have trouble understanding meshpage, then maybe you're not in correct area of expertise.
I used to be young too. And whlie I understand that young people have challenges with learning all the necessary technologies, I simply cannot declare them idiots simply because internet thinks the technologies are not suitable for that young people.
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Vendors of the hardware like video cameras, still shot cameras, tape recorders, usb sticks, ssd disks, hard disks, etc need to look for illegal uses of their hardware and actively prevent misuses. This means examining the technology environment where the products will be used, and prevent combinations that are likely to be used for piracy. This applies to vendors of larger than usual hard disks, video/webcam vendors, audio vendors, dvd recorders, browsers, protocol developers, router vendors, kernel developers, etc... Anything that can handle pirated data/streams. The vendors need to work together to actively prevent misuses of their gadgets.
Simply sticking your head to sand is not acceptable.
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Yes, it's nice that it arrived so early in the process. It was only our 3rd or 4th phone model we implemented and it still managed to break the bank. Tech people didn't like it much, but the general public just loved it.
After ngage we just implemented all the other s60 phones, but ngage with their mickey mouse ears-calling feature just made our day and thus we still remember it fondly years after it arrived.
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This assumes that the only concern is if some network-side tracking entity notices you're reading the material. But this isn't the main concern in the legal sphere. In fact, this indicates that you just want to get away with your illegal acts by hiding your network traffic from trackers.
But the real concern is your access to information which you're unable to handle. For example wikileaks have revealed tons of war memos which contain information that ordinary humans are not supposed to know about, and it could even be dangerous if read by children who do not appreciate the seriousness of the actions contained within the material. Some poor children learn that such activities are allowed within our system, and they use that information instincticly 50 years later when they have gained good position as a wingman of some army general. This all could be dangerous and the confidential information limitations are actually protecting consumers from the harms contained in the material.
It isn't just embarrasements of governments or hiding wrongdoing that confidential flags in documents are closing. It's also information that is too sensitive or flamboyant that it needs to be closed from the world.
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