Well, it's not like Americans really have a choice in the matter... "we're" technically running the show, and if the past is any indication of future behavior, if it looks like congress won't ratify the TPP, Obama or whoever else is president at the time, will just pass it through anyway. :[
Yes, ratification, the thing congress should be over seeing? That works out spool well, especially when the president decides to ratify something himself without congressional approval with a bogus presidential order! So much oversight there. Who needs open negotiations and accountability when we have such a thurogh ratification process?
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No, I'm not happy with the ratification process. I used the close call of ACTA as an example of why more oversight is needed as the reason ACTA failed to be ratified was because a leaked version was released before the ratification process and widespread protests prompted ACTA negotiators to change the language of ACTA, not enough to save ACTA, but a case where bad trade agreements would have been rushed through if not for the drafts that were leaked early on and which negotiators would have preferred the public never see.
That's still cutting it too close for me. Remember in Europe ACTA was almost snuck through the ratification process, and a big part of why it was so largely protested against is because a leaked version was released before hand. They tried to hold as much info in as possible until the very last second in order to prevent any momentum from building against it. By all means it was a very close call.
And don't forget President Obama signed in ACTA without Congressional approval anyway, so there's always tricky situations such as that.
I kinda understand what your talking about, my knowledge of networking is shaky at best. So, does that also explain why only some areas under TW's service where having this problem, but not others? I can guess it has something to do with TW's poor service in most areas?
I don't think so, the newest article I could find on it was the one from Kotaku stating it was in it's second day of being down. And that xbl people are working on it.
So, your saying that diplomatic trade deals should be allowed to be created in secret because that's how it's always been done? Does that really justify it? No, just because it's been done that way in the past doesn't mean it's right.
Do you have a problem with people bringing attention to social wrongs?
Are you really ok with trade negotiators deciding things for your country and your family without any input or ability to fight against injustice at all?
I would say this isn't a right-wing or a left-wing situation, I think it's more of a corrupt-politicians-wing (aka all of them) situation. It just so happened that newspaper lobbyist were paying more to the right-wing at the time.
Sure they're giving us a chance to "express our views" but only as long as we don't comment on what the trade agreement is actually like via the leaked bill and only on the parts they tell us about, which is next to none. And then after hearing our truncated pleas, they can always choose to ignore it completely and know one will be the wiser, because no one knows whats actually going on at the negotiations...
Not meaning to hate on service members and others, as this legislation has nothing to do with them, but there comes a point when the need to fight "terrorism" goes beyond rational and into the realm of 1984...
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And don't forget President Obama signed in ACTA without Congressional approval anyway, so there's always tricky situations such as that.
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Do you have a problem with people bringing attention to social wrongs?
Are you really ok with trade negotiators deciding things for your country and your family without any input or ability to fight against injustice at all?
Do you enjoy being a sheep?
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so, yeah, totally transparent and open...
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Have we gotten everything yet?
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