"Conservative", as far as I know, is one of the few words to escape this flagrant redefinition.
It currently means hard-hearted sociopathic nazi scum. TT
I identify as conservative because I believe in and promote traditional values and I'm a Christian. However, preying on the poor and abusing minorities (and other vulnerable people) is anathema to me, which is why I loathe right-wingers. As soon as they develop a social conscience I'll change my mind but I'll be waiting a while, won't I?
^Truth. If the evil socialists don't tax us to death to pay the urban welfare queens, the evil capitalists will work us to death to pay the corporate welfare queens. We can't win!
All left-wingers work from a position of, "What works best for ordinary Joes?"
Everybody else works from a position of "What works best for my career?"
Once you realise that, you've got the key to communicating effectively with them. Frame your arguments according to their biases and you should be able to get through to them. Please note, when framing an argument or other communication in terms of how it would benefit a politician's career, you don't ever overtly word it in that way. You pretend it's to benefit businesses or the economy.
Re: Re: We've turned opinions into crimes the past few years
Suppose you're booked to speak at an event of some kind.
A bunch of people opposed to your views demand that either the event is cancelled -- or you are.
Your speaking gig gets pulled. Congratulations, you have been deplatformed. Famous people this has happened to include the feminist writer Germaine Greer (not politically correct enough, particularly where trans people are concerned), right wing commentator Ann Coulter, and "cultural libertarian" Milo Yiannopoulos.
...telling assholes that they aren't welcome anymore and they can take their dreck somewhere else.
The decision to declare people to be [insult] and to tell them they're not welcome any more is usually taken by a group of activists with a bee in their bonnet about ___, e.g. right-wingery. They then proceed to make enough noise that the speaker is dropped and/or the event cancelled.
I'm not a fan because this is political; while militant progressivism rules the roost, right wing mean people will have their speaking engagements cancelled under pressure from the proggies.
If right-wingery becomes more popular, guess which group's darlings will find themselves kicked off campus for having unapproved views? History has a nasty habit of repeating itself because we like to think that the lessons don't apply to us. The do, people. This century's Thirties have come a bit early; hard on the heels of our fin-de-siecle excesses. Expect a right-wing pushback and the imposition of fascist regimes all over the place until our Sixties kick in and we have another Flower Power counter-cultural revolution. I believe the advent of the internet is speeding things up because we're better able to communicate and coordinate than ever before. Will the next round of fin-de-siecle excesses come before the end of this century?
The obvious thing to do is kick bullies and bigots out, then tell them to go fuck themselves somewhere else. I don’t know why you can’t grasp how that’s the best solution, but here we are
First define the bullies and bigots. There's the rub. For every Progressive complaining about abuse towards [protected group] there's a gang of right-wingers complaining they're being discriminated against. See Hobby Lobby, Chick-Fil-A, etc., for details.
Yes, I know it's a case of "Stop hitting my fist with your face!" but whoever holds the levers of power can say and do what they want with impunity, so let's not be giving the tools to make our lives worse.
This is the trouble with copyright terms being too long. If we kept it to the 28 max it used to be we wouldn't be having these problems. However, copyright has now become about being an insurance and assurance package -- which it was never meant to be.
Real research is not done by consulting conspiracy theorists for information. Actual research means going through official records and legal documents.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Political Bluster
"Conservative", as far as I know, is one of the few words to escape this flagrant redefinition.
It currently means hard-hearted sociopathic nazi scum. TT
I identify as conservative because I believe in and promote traditional values and I'm a Christian. However, preying on the poor and abusing minorities (and other vulnerable people) is anathema to me, which is why I loathe right-wingers. As soon as they develop a social conscience I'll change my mind but I'll be waiting a while, won't I?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Political Bluster
^Truth. If the evil socialists don't tax us to death to pay the urban welfare queens, the evil capitalists will work us to death to pay the corporate welfare queens. We can't win!
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I love the idea of predators' actions coming back to bite them.
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Re: Re: Re: *Thumbs up from me!*
All left-wingers work from a position of, "What works best for ordinary Joes?"
Everybody else works from a position of "What works best for my career?"
Once you realise that, you've got the key to communicating effectively with them. Frame your arguments according to their biases and you should be able to get through to them. Please note, when framing an argument or other communication in terms of how it would benefit a politician's career, you don't ever overtly word it in that way. You pretend it's to benefit businesses or the economy.
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I looked him up. What a prat!
On the post: Robyn Openshaw, 'The Green Smoothie Girl,' Threatening SLAPP Suits Over Mediocre Reviews
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I can see that.
On the post: Robyn Openshaw, 'The Green Smoothie Girl,' Threatening SLAPP Suits Over Mediocre Reviews
Re: O irony!
That would be so damn funny!
On the post: Robyn Openshaw, 'The Green Smoothie Girl,' Threatening SLAPP Suits Over Mediocre Reviews
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Mate, if you have issues with her, she must be awful!!
On the post: Robyn Openshaw, 'The Green Smoothie Girl,' Threatening SLAPP Suits Over Mediocre Reviews
Re: Re: Hopefully a new law is named after her
It totally is. I think she's a nut. If she sees this comment, she'll come after me.
Thanks to TD, I know not to worry and to tell her to bring it on.
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Re: Re: Re: We've turned opinions into crimes the past few years
*They do, people.
On the post: Robyn Openshaw, 'The Green Smoothie Girl,' Threatening SLAPP Suits Over Mediocre Reviews
Re: Re: We've turned opinions into crimes the past few years
Suppose you're booked to speak at an event of some kind.
A bunch of people opposed to your views demand that either the event is cancelled -- or you are.
Your speaking gig gets pulled. Congratulations, you have been deplatformed. Famous people this has happened to include the feminist writer Germaine Greer (not politically correct enough, particularly where trans people are concerned), right wing commentator Ann Coulter, and "cultural libertarian" Milo Yiannopoulos.
...telling assholes that they aren't welcome anymore and they can take their dreck somewhere else.
The decision to declare people to be [insult] and to tell them they're not welcome any more is usually taken by a group of activists with a bee in their bonnet about ___, e.g. right-wingery. They then proceed to make enough noise that the speaker is dropped and/or the event cancelled.
I'm not a fan because this is political; while militant progressivism rules the roost, right wing mean people will have their speaking engagements cancelled under pressure from the proggies.
If right-wingery becomes more popular, guess which group's darlings will find themselves kicked off campus for having unapproved views? History has a nasty habit of repeating itself because we like to think that the lessons don't apply to us. The do, people. This century's Thirties have come a bit early; hard on the heels of our fin-de-siecle excesses. Expect a right-wing pushback and the imposition of fascist regimes all over the place until our Sixties kick in and we have another Flower Power counter-cultural revolution. I believe the advent of the internet is speeding things up because we're better able to communicate and coordinate than ever before. Will the next round of fin-de-siecle excesses come before the end of this century?
Learn the lessons, people. Learn the lessons.
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Re: What's next...
I can see that...
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Conspiracy theorists will theorise
I'm trying to laugh quietly about the supposed DNC/FBI collusion to oppose Trump. Why?
Does nobody remember this? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/13/james-comey-book-hillary-clinton-email-investigation
So why in the world would the DNC collude with the FBI if it was screwing them? Logic is not a strong point with these people.
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They have form and the whole Trump regime knew it. They haven't been conned, they're in on the con.
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The obvious thing to do is kick bullies and bigots out, then tell them to go fuck themselves somewhere else. I don’t know why you can’t grasp how that’s the best solution, but here we are
First define the bullies and bigots. There's the rub. For every Progressive complaining about abuse towards [protected group] there's a gang of right-wingers complaining they're being discriminated against. See Hobby Lobby, Chick-Fil-A, etc., for details.
Yes, I know it's a case of "Stop hitting my fist with your face!" but whoever holds the levers of power can say and do what they want with impunity, so let's not be giving the tools to make our lives worse.
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Re: Re: Well that's one way to deal with bullies/trolls...
Might Makes Right is the problem here. We haven't learned a damn thing and we don't want to.
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Re: Re: Re: Marvin Gaye and his estate
This is the trouble with copyright terms being too long. If we kept it to the 28 max it used to be we wouldn't be having these problems. However, copyright has now become about being an insurance and assurance package -- which it was never meant to be.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brain optional
Because they appeal to right-wingers. The "research" he bids us do would lead us to the dodgiest conspiracy sites in order to confirm his nonsense.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Bullshit-meter broke
Because you have provided no links to support your assertions. We all know why: they'd be from Infowars or Breitbart.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brain optional
Real research is not done by consulting conspiracy theorists for information. Actual research means going through official records and legal documents.
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