The snippet tax is like wanting to charge cookbook publishers for recipes that call for butter. If you start charging people to recommend butter in their recipes, you won't sell as much butter.
This sounds like a MUCH more invasive version of what many of the people in the #metoo movement are complaining about. Being sexually molested by people in power without consent.
Maybe the #metoo folks should take this as a call to arms and stand up for this lady.
Can you imagine what would happen in millions of people started protesting CPB, the judges, the doctors and the Hospital?
Actually, that's too generous... The person doing this doesn't OWN the TV and has never bought a TV from Google or Amazon, they have basically converted YOUR TV into a botnet and now the manufacturer is disabling the capability to protect their reputation.
In your analogy, what if the FCC comes after the manufacture because people are using the TV in a way that wasn't certified. Basically, Google and Amazon simply said "we don't want to be held responsible for something someone who isn't EVEN OUR CUSTOMER is doing using our name".
Let's say that you are a disreputable ambulance chaser, and you decide that more people will answer your calls if you set your Caller ID to the name of some big legit law firm. Do you think the law firm would be happy about this?
Signal was doing basically the same thing, they were potentially causing Google reputation and maybe even legal issue and they weren't even a Google customer. Is it "evil" to protect your own good name?
It's a slippery slope when you allow locals to exclude "neighborhood" roads from maps (as the people on that street apparently have already requested). I know a LOT of people that would love to make their roads "locals only".
As Google stated, if you don't want people to drive down that road, close it or restrict it in some LEGAL manor, don't hide it on the map.
I've been a Google Nexus Player and Chromecast owner and Amazon Prime customer for years. I've complained to Amazon about the lack of support to deaf ears.
A few months ago Amazon went out of their way to make SURE you couldn't use Google products to view Amazon Prime Video. They even figured out how to block Prime video being cast to Chromecast using device SCREEN Casting (curiously enough, Amazon doesn't block commercials - just the "real" video).
The "we’ve been trying to reach agreement with Amazon" part sounds about right... Google has tried but Amazon isn't willing to negotiate, but people want to make Google into the bad guy here because they don't want to continue being screwed by Amazon.
So, using your line of "reasoning" it would be fine for an employee at the hotel / motel you use to tweet your name and a copy of your Drivers License every time you check in?
Assuming the hotel chain doesn't have a POLICY against sharing check in information (which they ABSOLUTELY should), how long do you think a hotel that allows that practice to stay open? How many people would CHOOSE a hotel that cared that little about YOUR privacy? At the least, this would be a public relations nightmare..... Oh wait, that already happened.
What does "per impression" mean? Say I do a search for "cord cutting" and get 13.2 MILLION results, are all of those "impressions"?
If so, let's do the math.... Assuming Google "profit shares" 100% of the 1/2 cent per search profit across all of those "impressions", each site would get 1/26.4 millionth of a cent!
Since that rounds to 0 cents, I think they are already getting what they are asking for. :)
The link was what Google gave me when I searched for "Plex DVR" (feel free to give it a try), I assume it's so Plex can be charged for the "advertising" provided by Google search.
And before you jump to conclusions, no I'm not the anonymous poster above.
Nope, not an affiliate link --- I don't think they even do that kind of thing. I actually didn't notice the junk at the end of the link before I hit post and then tried to back and delete the post or edit it to remove it to no avail.
Yeah, I may be over zealous but there is nothing wrong with that. As to pricing, I've been in this group long enough to know that if you don't qualify EVERY THING YOU SAY, someone bitch. If I had simply said "Plex offers free DVR", someone would have said "it's not free, you have pay to get the program guide". Folks on here can be a bit snarky!
*You pimping for your service doesn't change the fact that the same point will apply to anything not available through that service*
Ohhh... Yeah, totally not my service, I'm just a customer that likes what they offer. I wasn't trying to spam the group (there's nothing in it for me), I was just trying to describe another way to get SOME content for free legally.
*and that contains all the content people want to access? If not, what the hell is your point other than spamming the thread with an advertisement*
Of course not! But a lot of people today seem to discount over the air broadcasts. There is a LOT of free programming that people are paying for that they could simply record. CBS is just the first to paywall the content local stations broadcast over the air.
Actually, I didn't miss the entire point! The article said "your option is to either go without -- or to pirate the program" and then specifically mentions CBS. This totally leaves out the option of watching it (and others like ABC, NBC, FOX, CW, etc) using broadcast tv (you know, the way TV was originally).
As to the "21'st channel", I guess you mean something like Disney which doesn't do broadcast tv. I assumed it was understood that you can only watch OVER THE AIR TV that is actually broadcast over the air.
*Don't want or can't afford another service? Your option is to either go without -- or to pirate the program.*
There is actually a third option. I use the PLEX DVR feature to record over the air shows (we get about 20 channels where I live on a desktop antenna). I invested in a HD antenna (about $30) and a HDHomeRun Extend (about $160 on NewEgg) which allows me to record 2 channels at the same time (or I could add a second for 4 channels). Plex is free but to get the channel guide you need Plex Pass which is $4.99 a month (or $39.99 a year or $149.99 for lifetime). So I'm out about $300 (actually less because I got my lifetime plex pass a LONG time ago when it was cheaper). :)
This combination allows me to watch LIVE TV on any of my devices as well as record it for later viewing. Oh, and Plex has clients for TONS of different devices - Google TV, Roku, Android, IOS, Playstation, etc. Plex also has channels (streaming version of HGTV, SciFi, etc) and plugins you can add to to extend it's base functionality (like Kodi).
Re: In other words, Google is saying it's above ALL laws in ALL nations. That cannot be.
What about if a court in some small country decided to issue an order that all people that post anonymously on the internet should have all assets frozen worldwide?
As an anonymous poster, I assume you simply turn over all of your assets so as not to be above the law? Right?
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Snippet Tax
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Hundreds? Really?
Where did you get the "100's of school shootings" this year statistic? As of May 25'th, CNN is listing 23, not 100's...
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#metoo
Maybe the #metoo folks should take this as a call to arms and stand up for this lady.
Can you imagine what would happen in millions of people started protesting CPB, the judges, the doctors and the Hospital?
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Re: Analogies
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Re: Analogies
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Re: Re: Clickbait headline?
Signal was doing basically the same thing, they were potentially causing Google reputation and maybe even legal issue and they weren't even a Google customer. Is it "evil" to protect your own good name?
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Slippery Slope
As Google stated, if you don't want people to drive down that road, close it or restrict it in some LEGAL manor, don't hide it on the map.
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You mean the complete works of Shakespeare?
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Everyone wants to blame Google...
A few months ago Amazon went out of their way to make SURE you couldn't use Google products to view Amazon Prime Video. They even figured out how to block Prime video being cast to Chromecast using device SCREEN Casting (curiously enough, Amazon doesn't block commercials - just the "real" video).
The "we’ve been trying to reach agreement with Amazon" part sounds about right... Google has tried but Amazon isn't willing to negotiate, but people want to make Google into the bad guy here because they don't want to continue being screwed by Amazon.
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Long distance?
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Would it be OK to tweet your Drivers License too?
Assuming the hotel chain doesn't have a POLICY against sharing check in information (which they ABSOLUTELY should), how long do you think a hotel that allows that practice to stay open?
How many people would CHOOSE a hotel that cared that little about YOUR privacy? At the least, this would be a public relations nightmare..... Oh wait, that already happened.
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Pay for Impression
If so, let's do the math.... Assuming Google "profit shares" 100% of the 1/2 cent per search profit across all of those "impressions", each site would get 1/26.4 millionth of a cent!
Since that rounds to 0 cents, I think they are already getting what they are asking for. :)
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And before you jump to conclusions, no I'm not the anonymous poster above.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Plex DVR - Free LEGAL streaming
Yeah, I may be over zealous but there is nothing wrong with that. As to pricing, I've been in this group long enough to know that if you don't qualify EVERY THING YOU SAY, someone bitch. If I had simply said "Plex offers free DVR", someone would have said "it's not free, you have pay to get the program guide". Folks on here can be a bit snarky!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Plex DVR - Free LEGAL streaming
Ohhh... Yeah, totally not my service, I'm just a customer that likes what they offer. I wasn't trying to spam the group (there's nothing in it for me), I was just trying to describe another way to get SOME content for free legally.
*and that contains all the content people want to access? If not, what the hell is your point other than spamming the thread with an advertisement*
Of course not! But a lot of people today seem to discount over the air broadcasts. There is a LOT of free programming that people are paying for that they could simply record. CBS is just the first to paywall the content local stations broadcast over the air.
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Re: Re: Plex DVR - Free LEGAL streaming
As to the "21'st channel", I guess you mean something like Disney which doesn't do broadcast tv. I assumed it was understood that you can only watch OVER THE AIR TV that is actually broadcast over the air.
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Re: Plex DVR - Free LEGAL streaming
https://www.plex.tv/features/live-tv-dvr/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign =PROI-Branded&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiLDMBRDFARIsACNmiX9B8KV5G9bDAchHflooGNOdeXgMZxMSxLv82ZZNCv6BDzaU9JAo 8LkaAvmCEALw_wcB
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Plex DVR - Free LEGAL streaming
There is actually a third option. I use the PLEX DVR feature to record over the air shows (we get about 20 channels where I live on a desktop antenna). I invested in a HD antenna (about $30) and a HDHomeRun Extend (about $160 on NewEgg) which allows me to record 2 channels at the same time (or I could add a second for 4 channels). Plex is free but to get the channel guide you need Plex Pass which is $4.99 a month (or $39.99 a year or $149.99 for lifetime). So I'm out about $300 (actually less because I got my lifetime plex pass a LONG time ago when it was cheaper). :)
This combination allows me to watch LIVE TV on any of my devices as well as record it for later viewing. Oh, and Plex has clients for TONS of different devices - Google TV, Roku, Android, IOS, Playstation, etc. Plex also has channels (streaming version of HGTV, SciFi, etc) and plugins you can add to to extend it's base functionality (like Kodi).
ANwya, hope someone finds this useful.
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Re: In other words, Google is saying it's above ALL laws in ALL nations. That cannot be.
As an anonymous poster, I assume you simply turn over all of your assets so as not to be above the law? Right?
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