no one ever said it was free. it's not free for anyone. there are many companies that compile this information and provide the tax processing. you want free then contact the states yourself.
google will validate addresses for free using their api.
usps or ups will provide zip codes. there are other services out there.
if the world were limited to what people like you could find for free, we wouldn't accomplish much. can you imagine trying to cure cancer based on what could be found for free on google? just because you cannot do the research yourself or don't have the connections to get the information yourself doesn't mean that we have to be limited by what you can accomplish.
this thing will never die. as long as there are people who make money from copyright those rights will be consolidated into associations and unions until there is enough money to pay for lobbyists. those lobbyists will work to further the interests of the people paying them.
the other side of this is the tech companies. once they get a taste of lobbying, it is going to be hard to stop them. google and facebook will start to understand that certain laws that limit them (and their revenues) need to go away. smaller competitors start to feel squeezed by new laws and so on.
the problem here is the process by which our laws are created. our legislators are just regular guys (with really big egos, granted) who want to do the right thing. but when the people they talk to have something to sell and they couch it in terms of "for the children" and prop it up with campaign contributions, these voices drown out the rest of us. it isn't until we get really pissed off and shove it down their throats like we did on wednesday do they really take notice.
now everyone will go back lick their wounds and strategize this all over again. the associations will reassess and consult with the lobbyists. the lobbyists will figure out how to rephrase this to our legislators so that is sounds good again. and the whole thing starts all over. this will never die until our culture changes to a degree where these people become irrelevant a la the buggy whip makers association.
does it really matter who you vote for at this point? you've got republican who can be bought, but once they realize we are paying attention renege on the deal. on the other hand, you've got democrat who stick to their guns and stay bought. hmmm, i'm voting for pat paulson.
i think there is certainly a difference between talentless hacks like kk and someone like peter gabriel. gabriel has been innovative since the beginning both in his entertainment and business models. his is probably an opinion that should be listened to on any day. the entire works of kk could go away and our society would lose nothing.
yeah, i actually kinda liked they way that was going. "...they'll want a glass of mike," and if you give them a glass of mike, they'll want to control the comments, and if you let them control the comments, they'll own the website, and if they own the website they'll shut it down.
lobbyists are tools, just like lawyers. you pay them and they do what you want them to. today they support a bill; the next they're against it. don't blame the lobbyists. they are a symptom of a system run a muck.
late addition. yes, the costs are different, but think of it like a denial-of-service attack. lots of people could target a large company with claims and completely swamp them.
yes, i realize that people who work for the government then go on to work for the companies that they regulate (or support). but what do you expect? it's not like the government pays enough for people to retire after a few years working for an administration or congressman.
where else would you expect them to work after they have worked for the government?
i have mentioned this before, but it worth saying again: all of the companies that support these measures have web sites and they all host media. you can bet the hoards will be active with real and bogus takedown and blocking requests. granted they are illegal under the letter of the law, but then again so are most protests.
i think that your argument can best be addressed by pointing at the transportation authority that turned off cell phone coverage in a subway station (sorry, the city escapes me, oops). that incident was a perfect example of what you are talking about. the fallout from that event has, in part, reestablished, for now, the standard of not only free speech but also of the availability of the medium. if there had been no outcry, everybody who runs communication systems could shut them off at a whim when they felt there was something being said that they didn't like.
what happens when someone quotes an overly long section of one of martin luther king's speeches? the king family is famous for protecting their copyrights on his material. right there we have the potential of a political website being taken down because a copyright holder objected to political speech that happened to quote some famous political speech.
now i'm not saying that the king family would actually do this, but if they were so inclined they could.
did anyone ever stop to think that any site, product, etc. that the labels, studios, publishers ever try to set up can be blocked simply by having anyone make an accusation of infringement? i agree that this bill is horrible, but it will definitely work both ways. the labels and their cronies will spend the rest of the decade in court defending their websites. it could effectively shut off any kind of content on the internet.
i see the potential for a war of tit-for-tat accusations and shutdowns that will flow over the internet much the same way that patent lawsuits are currently doing to technology development.
my real fear here is that at some point it becomes impossible for anyone to do anything productive in the technology or creative arena. they can spend time creating the best "x" the world has ever seen, but as soon as they present it someone will sue them or order them taken down.
how could any lawyer not love this? personally, i think if this passes the courts will be so overrun by cases going back and forth, there won't be an unemployed lawyer in the entire country.
so are you saying that ge does not pay payroll taxes and sales taxes on their consumables? how about property taxes? how about utility taxes? you think they get those for free?
granted i'd like to see them pay more federal tax, but you can bet they pay a significant amount of tax elsewhere.
software and services that you suggest are needed already exist. every retailer/restaurant/gas station chain that has more than one site has to deal with this. hmmm, sounds like a market. look into this just a little and you will find there are literally hundreds of companies that will do sales taxes for you.
everyone is assuming that this is harder for amazon than it is for walmart. it's not.
if we are going to talk about sales taxes on the internet then let's talk about it on its merits. don't try to reinvent problems that were solved 20 years ago.
how is it any more difficult for amazon to understand all of these sales taxes than walmart? all of walmart's registers are programmed from a central point. sales tax programs that track tax rates by geocode have been standard stuff for more than 20 years.
if we are going to talk about sales taxes on the internet then let's talk about it on its merits. don't try to reinvent problems that were solved 20 years ago.
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google will validate addresses for free using their api.
usps or ups will provide zip codes. there are other services out there.
if the world were limited to what people like you could find for free, we wouldn't accomplish much. can you imagine trying to cure cancer based on what could be found for free on google? just because you cannot do the research yourself or don't have the connections to get the information yourself doesn't mean that we have to be limited by what you can accomplish.
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the other side of this is the tech companies. once they get a taste of lobbying, it is going to be hard to stop them. google and facebook will start to understand that certain laws that limit them (and their revenues) need to go away. smaller competitors start to feel squeezed by new laws and so on.
the problem here is the process by which our laws are created. our legislators are just regular guys (with really big egos, granted) who want to do the right thing. but when the people they talk to have something to sell and they couch it in terms of "for the children" and prop it up with campaign contributions, these voices drown out the rest of us. it isn't until we get really pissed off and shove it down their throats like we did on wednesday do they really take notice.
now everyone will go back lick their wounds and strategize this all over again. the associations will reassess and consult with the lobbyists. the lobbyists will figure out how to rephrase this to our legislators so that is sounds good again. and the whole thing starts all over. this will never die until our culture changes to a degree where these people become irrelevant a la the buggy whip makers association.
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where else would you expect them to work after they have worked for the government?
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now i'm not saying that the king family would actually do this, but if they were so inclined they could.
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i see the potential for a war of tit-for-tat accusations and shutdowns that will flow over the internet much the same way that patent lawsuits are currently doing to technology development.
my real fear here is that at some point it becomes impossible for anyone to do anything productive in the technology or creative arena. they can spend time creating the best "x" the world has ever seen, but as soon as they present it someone will sue them or order them taken down.
truly sad.
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granted i'd like to see them pay more federal tax, but you can bet they pay a significant amount of tax elsewhere.
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software and services that you suggest are needed already exist. every retailer/restaurant/gas station chain that has more than one site has to deal with this. hmmm, sounds like a market. look into this just a little and you will find there are literally hundreds of companies that will do sales taxes for you.
everyone is assuming that this is harder for amazon than it is for walmart. it's not.
if we are going to talk about sales taxes on the internet then let's talk about it on its merits. don't try to reinvent problems that were solved 20 years ago.
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if we are going to talk about sales taxes on the internet then let's talk about it on its merits. don't try to reinvent problems that were solved 20 years ago.
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