It's not gone, it's just not going to you. Similarly, I don't spend any money on postage stamps anymore, but that doesn't mean I just burned all that money- I spent it elsewhere.
Maybe we should lobby to make email illegal, to save the dying postal service? It's exactly what SOPA aims to do for other dying businesses.
Re: Re: @"fogbuzd": How does this apply to, say, Microsoft?
If new computers came with the option of being $300 cheaper and having a free OS installed on it instead, I dare say Microsoft would start to die. Most consumers probably don't even realize they're paying for Windows when they buy a PC.
Re: Making a lot over "rent" / "buy", when neither apply.
You're right. Rent, buy, own; these words are meaningless when you're discussing an infinite good. Words that are also meaningless when discussing infinite goods: property, theft, and steal
The real value of an MP3 comes from the content that it contains.
No, the real value comes from *my* computer, which can decode the mp3 into sound to be played by *my* speakers using *my* electricity, to be bounced off *my* eardrums.
You clearly don't understand who needs whom in this equation.
Illegal content should not be available on the internet, normally honest people became criminals when they pirated cotent. They did this for various reasons, but one of the most compelling reasons was because "everyone else is doing it".
Normally honest people know when they are doing something wrong, therefore, if most normally honest people don't think what their doing is wrong, it's time for the laws to change to match what these normally honest people believe.
The labels should have never been placed in a position where they were forced to compete with free on such a large scale.
This is what innovation looks like. If someone invents a cheap way to teleport people over large distances, will you be first in line demanding we hold back progress to save the jobs of everyone in the transportation industry?
We don't need the record labels to get music to our ears, anymore. That time has passed. It sucks for those people who depending on moving around copies of music, but that's how it works. I still believe that labels still have a role to play in the music industry, but it's going to be much smaller, and they are going to be at the mercy of the artists, not the other way around.
Re: Mike sez: "I don't want the [RIAA and MPAA] to fail at all."
What the hell are you going on about, guy? It's becoming obvious that you don't even understand what we're hoping for. If, tomorrow, the MPAA and the RIAA pulled a Rick Perry and said "oops!" and decided to stop trying to prevent piracy at any cost, and instead worked to give customers what they want and help artists reach more fans and make money from their art, I would be very happy. I would once again give them my money for their products. (assuming they started making things worth my money!)
Do you think Techdirt is an anti-corporation blog? Holy shit. You're paid to come here by someone that thinks this is an anti-corporation blog, aren't you? Hahahahaha! Man, your employer is wasting a lot of money.
Telephones are used to commit crimes, but they exist.
At least where I've lived, more people speed than not, yet highways are still around.
Guns are often used in crimes, yet guns exist.
Just because people use something to commit a crime does not mean that the something is to blame. Go after the people committing the crime, not the tool.
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Re: Iconic photos?
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PunIshment fits the crime?
That'll teach him.
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Copyrights
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Response to: pelouze on Nov 17th, 2011 @ 11:34pm
Maybe we should lobby to make email illegal, to save the dying postal service? It's exactly what SOPA aims to do for other dying businesses.
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Pinky to mouth.
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Re: Human nature is to steal whenever possible.
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Re: Re: @"fogbuzd": How does this apply to, say, Microsoft?
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Re: Making a lot over "rent" / "buy", when neither apply.
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Sad
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Re: Verse 2
Anonymous attacks, and then there was one.
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Wait, no, I might have an old tower in the basement that probably still works.
I'm sorry, what was your point again?
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No, the real value comes from *my* computer, which can decode the mp3 into sound to be played by *my* speakers using *my* electricity, to be bounced off *my* eardrums.
You clearly don't understand who needs whom in this equation.
Illegal content should not be available on the internet, normally honest people became criminals when they pirated cotent. They did this for various reasons, but one of the most compelling reasons was because "everyone else is doing it".
Normally honest people know when they are doing something wrong, therefore, if most normally honest people don't think what their doing is wrong, it's time for the laws to change to match what these normally honest people believe.
The labels should have never been placed in a position where they were forced to compete with free on such a large scale.
This is what innovation looks like. If someone invents a cheap way to teleport people over large distances, will you be first in line demanding we hold back progress to save the jobs of everyone in the transportation industry?
We don't need the record labels to get music to our ears, anymore. That time has passed. It sucks for those people who depending on moving around copies of music, but that's how it works. I still believe that labels still have a role to play in the music industry, but it's going to be much smaller, and they are going to be at the mercy of the artists, not the other way around.
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Now that that's out of the way, you think less than 25% of highway drivers drive the legal speed limit? Have you ever driven on a highway, ever?
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However, NBC and IFPI both have a lot to gain by inflating the effects of piracy, which is why I am skeptical of their studies.
If a tobacco company paid for a study that said smoking wasn't that bad for you, would you accept that study? I wouldn't.
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Re: Mike sez: "I don't want the [RIAA and MPAA] to fail at all."
Do you think Techdirt is an anti-corporation blog? Holy shit. You're paid to come here by someone that thinks this is an anti-corporation blog, aren't you? Hahahahaha! Man, your employer is wasting a lot of money.
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Call me cynical, but I like my "proof" to come from people who don't stand to gain from said "proof".
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Telephones are used to commit crimes, but they exist.
At least where I've lived, more people speed than not, yet highways are still around.
Guns are often used in crimes, yet guns exist.
Just because people use something to commit a crime does not mean that the something is to blame. Go after the people committing the crime, not the tool.
Do you need more explanation?
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Re: Re: Re: What about their stake holders
It's horrible, yes, but I'm pretty sure not all people who are IP Maximalists beat their children.
In fact, from here on out I think I'll start reporting it as spam, because it really adds nothing to the conversation.
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