Absolutely, when are you freetards going to wake up to the fact that there is no, and i mean zero, legal content on the internet. Somebody, somewhere should have the right to sue for this. And, by that same argument, someone should be able to sue me for this comment.
the same kind that tried to make it ok to imprison someone for up to 90 days without trial or even notice of the crime they were alleged to have commited.
Oh yes, and the same kind of country that allows ludicrous libel tourism for works not even published in the uk.
Oh yes, and the same country that still thinks copying a cd to your hard-drive is a crime: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8422308/HiFi-manufactures-advert-encouraged-people-to-bre ak-the-law.html
Oh yes, and the same kind that, post Digital Economy act, makes you liable for the actions of users of your wifi spot.
In short, one run by idiots who legislate on headlines and judges who make case law in ignorance.
My country.
Not at all, but deliberately provocative posts that infer meaning where none was stated and add no value to the discussion are.
Look back up the thread and see how many of the posts are just ad hominem attacks, ad ludicrum arguments or completely off topic.
As I said, filtering is the wrong answer but it would make it easier to get to the real arguments on (and from) either side.
Now would you care to revise your extrapolation?
Alternative translation for the non-paranoid: Mike, please don't make me wade through pages of this shit to get to any kind of sensible discussion.
Still wrong mind, but suggest it's a more likely scenario.
The guy's an arse. He doesn't represent the content creators at all, he represents the gate keepers. He is a Recording Industry spokesman, not a music industry spokeman.
And this can be a big advantage to the artist as well. If you've got 3 or 4 songs ready to go, get them out there. No need to wait until you have an album-ful.
Same principle as the EP but without the manufacturing costs, something that commenter 5 appears to have missed.
1) What is not clear anywhere in the article is if the court determined that what was published was false. Without this we must assume that, given the result, there was material flasehood in the article. If so then the damages do not seem unreasonable. See point 2.
2) Damages of £7,000, costs of £335,000. If that doesn't illustrate how fucked up the legal profession is I don't know what does.
3) None of this changes the fact that the UK does have some totally screwed up libel laws.
... and knee-jerk legislation is our speciality!
Just don't expect it to actually fix anything. After all, we're mostly ex-lawyers and the one thing we do want to ensure is more work for our friends at the bar. Oh, and us when we leave parliament of course...
I tend to find that reading techdirt makes me depressed for two reasons, the first being that i am one of the many who are struggling to find/create a new business model that works for me, secondly because your posts continue to highlight the ignorance, bias and sheer self-centred greed of our elected officials on both sides of the atlantic.
I still read because i still think it's better to know and be depressed than to be ignorant and blissful.
P.S. I think that CwF + RtB = $ is missing a term, i think there's a factor that covers how you raise your work (in whatever medium that might be) above the mass of quality output. I think it should be e(CwF+RtB)=$ where e = elevation (for lack of a better term, pardon the pun). An example of e might be either something like a mass publicity stunt (at one end) or targetting a very, very specific niche (at the other end), for example the lady (who's name i forget) who writes the sailing songs.
Firstly the BPI doesn't represent the music industry in the uk. It represents the major labels. That's all.
Secondly, @ anonymous #34, I agree that this is not one of TD's better articles and your critique is largely valid, bar one bit: "People are buying more music. That is absolutely totally, and utterly against the trends that TD has been pointing to."
Read a bit more on the blog, that's not what TD has been saying at all.
Re: Domains aren't property, not even Intelectual Property
Michial, presumably this is just a contract thing then? And i also assume that pretty much every domain agency is going to have a contract that reserves them the right to end the contract as and when they choose at no notice. Presumably in the form of a tick-here-to-confirm-you-have-read-and-understood-the-terms-and-conditions?
Makes sense.
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Re: problem?
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re: what kind of a country
Oh yes, and the same kind of country that allows ludicrous libel tourism for works not even published in the uk.
Oh yes, and the same country that still thinks copying a cd to your hard-drive is a crime: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8422308/HiFi-manufactures-advert-encouraged-people-to-bre ak-the-law.html
Oh yes, and the same kind that, post Digital Economy act, makes you liable for the actions of users of your wifi spot.
In short, one run by idiots who legislate on headlines and judges who make case law in ignorance.
My country.
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Look back up the thread and see how many of the posts are just ad hominem attacks, ad ludicrum arguments or completely off topic.
As I said, filtering is the wrong answer but it would make it easier to get to the real arguments on (and from) either side.
Now would you care to revise your extrapolation?
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Still wrong mind, but suggest it's a more likely scenario.
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I was wondering...
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representation?
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Same principle as the EP but without the manufacturing costs, something that commenter 5 appears to have missed.
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It's a bit like parking your car...
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D'Addario
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dammit!
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3 things
2) Damages of £7,000, costs of £335,000. If that doesn't illustrate how fucked up the legal profession is I don't know what does.
3) None of this changes the fact that the UK does have some totally screwed up libel laws.
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We're the UK Parliament...
Just don't expect it to actually fix anything. After all, we're mostly ex-lawyers and the one thing we do want to ensure is more work for our friends at the bar. Oh, and us when we leave parliament of course...
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Information Commissioners
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pessimism is in the eye of the beholder?
I still read because i still think it's better to know and be depressed than to be ignorant and blissful.
P.S. I think that CwF + RtB = $ is missing a term, i think there's a factor that covers how you raise your work (in whatever medium that might be) above the mass of quality output. I think it should be e(CwF+RtB)=$ where e = elevation (for lack of a better term, pardon the pun). An example of e might be either something like a mass publicity stunt (at one end) or targetting a very, very specific niche (at the other end), for example the lady (who's name i forget) who writes the sailing songs.
Hmm, long comment, probably needs a blog...
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representation
Secondly, @ anonymous #34, I agree that this is not one of TD's better articles and your critique is largely valid, bar one bit: "People are buying more music. That is absolutely totally, and utterly against the trends that TD has been pointing to."
Read a bit more on the blog, that's not what TD has been saying at all.
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Re: Domains aren't property, not even Intelectual Property
Makes sense.
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