Re: Piracy violates creators' rights. It gives money to pirate websites that have no rights. What else is there?
So provide a way for them to get the things they want, the way they want them, when they want them and at a price that makes sense.
For every report that proves p2p could be beneficial there is another that proves it isn't... somewhere in the middle is the truth, meanwhile more music/movies are made every year and so do the profits posted by the entertainment industries. CD sales are dead, it's moved online, industries need to deal with that, just like the cart manufactuers had to deal with the invention of the horse carriage.
ahh what a wonderful day, a day that has been a long time coming for me.. I always new John Bon Jovi was an idiot but today the evidence has emerged that will convince everyone else what I have known for decades!
ooh, ooh! I've got an idea, if we legalise drugs we could get Big Pharma to make them, we could then regulate them and tax them... win, win? We get more tax revenue, we provide Big Pharma with a never ending revenue stream (+ the initiative to become innovative in the recreational drugs market) and we could probably put an end to a large percentage of drug related crime!
$10 billion a year! for one drug! Am I supposed to feel sorry for Pfizer? Doubtful seeing as they will be mothballing the site near me in the next two years with 2500 Pfizer employees and a further 3-4000 contractors/agency staff going as well.
So they didn't innovate in the good times, now the bad times are coming and they have nothing new to put on the shelf, ho hum ain't life a bitch!
So by ripping 3D movies the p2p/filesharing/freetards are helping the 3D glass manufactuers industry leading to better designs and implementations and expanding technology... w00t w00t!
Sorry, just trying to highlight where the filesharing of 3D movies may be a "win" to us as humans.
oh look... rather than come back with some point that we could actually debate you just throw your toys out of the pram and start calling me name, how mature.
Another AC I can ignore from this point on, thanks!
Maybe time to tell your artist friend to get another job?
Just because her "best off" compliation made it to a
torrent doesn't mean that anyone downloaded it or in any significant numbers, you haven't provided the name of the artist, the name of the album and where you saw it available for download, I'd need them to check your story out. Also anyone that did download it you cannot prove that they listened to it then deleted it or maybe went on to buy it, provide more info and maybe we could see if her sales increased.
Just because you like doing something doesn't mean that your entitled to make money at it, if she cannot, for whatever reason and p2p may not be a major factor, make a living at making music then sorry tough, move on, either innovate and try and get people to buy your product, that's what CwF+RtB is all about, or do something else.
Regarding her £18,000 medical bill... you live in the US, lifes a bitch, you want universal healthcare vote for someone that wants it too, she can't pay the bill because she isn't making any money doing what she likes to do, and right now your case that this is all down to p2p filesharing has not been made.
"Ripping off musicians and labels".... he ran a firm that used totally legitimate file sharing protocols to allow people to share THEIR files, the fact that the users of the software used it to to share copyright files isn't his problem, or at least shouldn't have been had the industry not already bought the judiciary.
If he is as guilty as you seem to believe why isn't he serving a prison sentence? Why did they only hit him in the wallet and not by restricting his liberty?
.... and you say that Mike's posts are FUD, jeez!
.... and just to reiterate what has been said hundreds of times on hundreds of posts by Mike, the Techdirt team of posters and the people who comment here Techdirt is opinion, some backed by facts, some on hunches, this isn't a newspaper or a news programme if you don't agree with what he is saying provide your own opinion backed by fact/hunches and argue your point, no one forces anyone to come and read the blog.
I haven't been coming here long, maybe a year or so but in that time I have seen an incease in ACs who openly comment garbage in response to articles posted by Mike and the team who never ever respond when they get called out. My general hypothesis is that Mike and others who truly grasp CwF+RtB, 21st Century business models etc have got the establishment so scared that they now actually spend their profits trying to discredit anyone who proves that it works. The more money these organisations spend the quicker I see their eventual demise. The people that come here to read about new techniques, new models and examples of how they work really don't engage to greatly with the TAMs and ACs of this world, I think we eventually apply some form of mental filter, you see an avatar and know whether to skip the writing or not.
Whether this weekend roundup or posts, insightful/funny should have comments is a decision for Mike I suppose... personally I'd let them continue to speak, I use it as a "filter update" and lets me ignore even more shills the following week.
Just bought another album, 13 tracks in WAV format straight from the bands FTP server, Paypal'd the cash straight to them... best thing of all, apart from the paltry few cents that Paypal creamed off the top every other cent went to the band, love it!
I can't see how they can use anything in a court of law any "evidence" becomes null and void as they cannot prove that it was obtained legally, as they aren't part of any legal or law enforcement agency.
Personally I hope BREIN and Tim get a day in court just to remind them once and for all that they are nothing more than bought and paid for thugs.
How about the movie studios collectively getting together and a week after release at the theatre, which is enough time to maximise ticket sales, they release standard scene sized releases of their films at SD+HD quality and charge something reasonable?
Lots of people pay someone to access the files they download, whether it's an admin to keep a tracker running or a usenet server company to access the alt.binaries, the only reason the studios don't get a slice of that money is because they don't offer the services that people in this century actually want.
According to an ancient Pew Internet & American Life Project report dated 2005 said that "About 36 million Americans—or 27% of internet users—say they download either music or video files and about half of them have found ways outside of traditional peer-to-peer networks or paid online services to swap their files, according to the most recent survey of the Pew Internet & American Life Project."
I know lots of downloaders who are paying for fast internet connectiosn with no limits who see lists and lists of films, tv shows, games, apps and think that keeping their torrent/NZB app running all night and day downloading stuff is getting value for money on the cost of their connection. I also know that a majority of these people watch/play/use less than 20% of what they get, simply because they don't have the actual time to watch/play/use it.
These people don't have great jobs, they don't earn fortunes and there isn't a lost sale for everything they download.
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Re: Re: Piracy violates creators' rights. It gives money to pirate websites that have no rights. What else is there?
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Re: Piracy violates creators' rights. It gives money to pirate websites that have no rights. What else is there?
For every report that proves p2p could be beneficial there is another that proves it isn't... somewhere in the middle is the truth, meanwhile more music/movies are made every year and so do the profits posted by the entertainment industries. CD sales are dead, it's moved online, industries need to deal with that, just like the cart manufactuers had to deal with the invention of the horse carriage.
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Re: How is it a loss??
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So they didn't innovate in the good times, now the bad times are coming and they have nothing new to put on the shelf, ho hum ain't life a bitch!
On the post: Next Generation 'Piracy': Piracy Goes 3D
Sorry, just trying to highlight where the filesharing of 3D movies may be a "win" to us as humans.
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Another AC I can ignore from this point on, thanks!
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Just because her "best off" compliation made it to a
torrent doesn't mean that anyone downloaded it or in any significant numbers, you haven't provided the name of the artist, the name of the album and where you saw it available for download, I'd need them to check your story out. Also anyone that did download it you cannot prove that they listened to it then deleted it or maybe went on to buy it, provide more info and maybe we could see if her sales increased.
Just because you like doing something doesn't mean that your entitled to make money at it, if she cannot, for whatever reason and p2p may not be a major factor, make a living at making music then sorry tough, move on, either innovate and try and get people to buy your product, that's what CwF+RtB is all about, or do something else.
Regarding her £18,000 medical bill... you live in the US, lifes a bitch, you want universal healthcare vote for someone that wants it too, she can't pay the bill because she isn't making any money doing what she likes to do, and right now your case that this is all down to p2p filesharing has not been made.
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If he is as guilty as you seem to believe why isn't he serving a prison sentence? Why did they only hit him in the wallet and not by restricting his liberty?
.... and you say that Mike's posts are FUD, jeez!
.... and just to reiterate what has been said hundreds of times on hundreds of posts by Mike, the Techdirt team of posters and the people who comment here Techdirt is opinion, some backed by facts, some on hunches, this isn't a newspaper or a news programme if you don't agree with what he is saying provide your own opinion backed by fact/hunches and argue your point, no one forces anyone to come and read the blog.
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Whether this weekend roundup or posts, insightful/funny should have comments is a decision for Mike I suppose... personally I'd let them continue to speak, I use it as a "filter update" and lets me ignore even more shills the following week.
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Biggest Industry Shill?
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Personally I hope BREIN and Tim get a day in court just to remind them once and for all that they are nothing more than bought and paid for thugs.
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Re: Re: Dealing with piracy
Lots of people pay someone to access the files they download, whether it's an admin to keep a tracker running or a usenet server company to access the alt.binaries, the only reason the studios don't get a slice of that money is because they don't offer the services that people in this century actually want.
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So I'm wondering is the US on the 301 report?
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@ Steve, Congrats mate been a long time coming.
All the best,
Planespotter, known as eazbak in other circles ;)
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These people don't have great jobs, they don't earn fortunes and there isn't a lost sale for everything they download.
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