Ever hear of a webcomic called Penny Arcade? They were never distributed by newspapers, yet they make a very significant income, giving content away for free, and have been doing so for the last 12 years.
PA doesn't have loyal fans, they have a standing army. there are literally millions of people around the world that would do pretty much whatever tycho and gabe told them to do.
i would wager that any content creator with 1% of PA's following could live quite well, assuming they made something that fired people up the way PA does.
In fact, in the case of slavery it was decidedly not a matter of majority will. Hence that whole "Civil War" thing that transpired when the government pushed federal law over state law.
it's all good cleetus. the south's gonna rise again, once this whole "piracy" thing is contained.
They're breaking the law... But since they can't be stopped no one should do anything.
Is that the argument being advanced here?
it's not that simple.
1) TPB is breaking a weak and stupid interpretation of what the MPAA and the IFPI think the law should be. every move against TPB is in response to pressure from these industry groups rather than actual law enforcement.
2) the money spent on this frivolity isn't just money wasted. it's money invested in the popularization and politicization of file sharing, not to mention the ill will of consumers. hollywood isn't just trying and failing, it is paying real money to make its enemy stronger.
3) file sharing represents a failure of the market. TPB and other torrent trackers clearly illustrate that content can be distributed and promoted for next to nothing, and that consumers are willing to donate time and bandwidth to the process. media conglomerates could embrace a similar model and reap some rewards from vastly reduced costs, or they can continue to tilt at windmills, either way file sharing is here to stay.
4) media conglomerates as we know them are doomed to fail, with or without protection from the world's governments. in the mean time, they are pushing for laws and international treaties that threaten our basic civil rights. the companies pushing for protection won't be around for ever, but the laws that they are pushing could be. when hollywood finally bleeds out from cutting its own throat, where will our rights to privacy and protection from unlawful search and seizure be?
If the US CIA, sell a SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition) control system, and software to Russia, that was booby trapped to fair at a certain time in the future, and it does fail and it causes a massive gas pipeline explosion and kills lots of people, would you call that an attacking using computers and computer networks.
*yawn*
that's just spies doing spy stuff that happens to involve computers, i.e. "some typical espionage efforts" as described in the article.
this hype makes "cyber warfare" sound like some scary new thing that has spawned from the net itself. it's not.
businessmen use computers and networks to do business, it's only natural that spies and criminals would start using them too. therefore, the intelligence and law enforcement communities should learn to use computers and networks as well to catch the bad guys they are supposed to protect us from. nothing more to see here, move along.
there are two varieties of computer crimes: crimes where a computer or network is the target, and crimes where a computer or network is an instrument in the commission of a crime.
your SCADA scenario is the latter, not the former. it's still sabotage, it's just sabotaging a computer instead of some other part of the gas line system. big freaking deal.
That way may be currently unlawful - but the law against it is unenforceable. Basing your business model on the enforcement of those laws will only lead to financial ruin.
I think it comes down to which is harder totally cutting off access, which comes to yes he is on or no he is not; or trying to monitor his usage while he is on.
i think it comes down to the fact that you cannot enforce such a ban.
are you going to lock him in a cell for the rest of his life? 24/7 surveillance? sure you can probably see if he has broadband by pulling his cable/phone bill and make sure he's not dialing up by tapping his home phone, but can you keep him out of every public and private place that might offer him internet access?
in the end the ban doesn't matter because it cannot be enforced.
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PA doesn't have loyal fans, they have a standing army. there are literally millions of people around the world that would do pretty much whatever tycho and gabe told them to do.
i would wager that any content creator with 1% of PA's following could live quite well, assuming they made something that fired people up the way PA does.
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you're the one putting your agenda on a sarcastic comment, cleetus.
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it's all good cleetus. the south's gonna rise again, once this whole "piracy" thing is contained.
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, and yes,, even die for:
is a world w/o Piracy.
what are you wasting your time here for then?
get out there and die for your cause.
do it nao.
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Re: be nice to the retards. they think they're people too.
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Re: Re: So you believe it's just to enforce unjust laws just because they're the laws?
i'm not sure reality works as evidence, after all, reality is known to have a pretty strong pro-piracy bias.
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Stupid free will.
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i do too. i think we should still have prohibition, slavery, segregation and women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
society may make progress, but the law should always remain woefully behind the times!
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Is that the argument being advanced here?
it's not that simple.
1) TPB is breaking a weak and stupid interpretation of what the MPAA and the IFPI think the law should be. every move against TPB is in response to pressure from these industry groups rather than actual law enforcement.
2) the money spent on this frivolity isn't just money wasted. it's money invested in the popularization and politicization of file sharing, not to mention the ill will of consumers. hollywood isn't just trying and failing, it is paying real money to make its enemy stronger.
3) file sharing represents a failure of the market. TPB and other torrent trackers clearly illustrate that content can be distributed and promoted for next to nothing, and that consumers are willing to donate time and bandwidth to the process. media conglomerates could embrace a similar model and reap some rewards from vastly reduced costs, or they can continue to tilt at windmills, either way file sharing is here to stay.
4) media conglomerates as we know them are doomed to fail, with or without protection from the world's governments. in the mean time, they are pushing for laws and international treaties that threaten our basic civil rights. the companies pushing for protection won't be around for ever, but the laws that they are pushing could be. when hollywood finally bleeds out from cutting its own throat, where will our rights to privacy and protection from unlawful search and seizure be?
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Re: "What attacks", oh my, dont get out much ?
*yawn*
that's just spies doing spy stuff that happens to involve computers, i.e. "some typical espionage efforts" as described in the article.
this hype makes "cyber warfare" sound like some scary new thing that has spawned from the net itself. it's not.
businessmen use computers and networks to do business, it's only natural that spies and criminals would start using them too. therefore, the intelligence and law enforcement communities should learn to use computers and networks as well to catch the bad guys they are supposed to protect us from. nothing more to see here, move along.
there are two varieties of computer crimes: crimes where a computer or network is the target, and crimes where a computer or network is an instrument in the commission of a crime.
your SCADA scenario is the latter, not the former. it's still sabotage, it's just sabotaging a computer instead of some other part of the gas line system. big freaking deal.
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i think it's more like assisted suicide.
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well said.
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i think it comes down to the fact that you cannot enforce such a ban.
are you going to lock him in a cell for the rest of his life? 24/7 surveillance? sure you can probably see if he has broadband by pulling his cable/phone bill and make sure he's not dialing up by tapping his home phone, but can you keep him out of every public and private place that might offer him internet access?
in the end the ban doesn't matter because it cannot be enforced.
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yeah, like clicking "search" and typing in what you are looking for.
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