The newspaper industry is dying a quick death. It's an outdated and expensive way to show people what happened yesterday when they already know what happened yesterday because they saw/read it on the web and/or television.
Perhaps, I should challenge you to create a successful buggy whip company since you apparently believe outdated industries are a future endeavor worth pursuing.
You didn't miss the tree or the forest, you missed land!
Ok just because it seems so relevant here in TD-land let's try this:
FB could try to get the movie out on the torrent sites before release just to wipe out any hope of the movie being successful - because Hollywood is always crying about the internet - they can't make any money because of all the pirates. Well of course the movie will do just fine but FB will have helped prove lots of points made frequently here on TD.
@Pierre - nice post - almost spit coffee on my screen reading it!
Honestly, they should just stay quiet and post a minimal response to the movie in a blog format emphasizing that the movie is a work of fiction and that of course we'd love to have you here on FB so you can see for yourself.
or
Make the movie work FOR you even if it's not scripted as such. Offer discount tickets to the movie by working on a promotional campaign with the studio. How ironic would that be to have FB offer the discount AND possibly pick up even more customers on a movie that makes fun of them - that is marketing genius right there!
And the viewers just want to be able to watch shows WHEN they want, on the device(s) they want, and in the FORMAT they want WITHOUT having to pay more than once for the "privilege"!!
Slingbox has that answer, but then it's on top of ANOTHER bill that we already pay (cable/satellite/FIOS).
I'd love to have one bill and be able to watch whatever my local provider has available on whatever device I choose for say $50 month.
The boogeyman, the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus have all assured me throughout my life that the Devil will not harm me. I'm just as likely to believe my cast of imaginary friends as you are to believe yours.
Yes I have and it was ALL free - much of it came directly from the artists themselves!!
Try http://shuffler.fm - pick your genre and listen away for free - that's right FREE! I don't have to download or copy a damn thing either! I just simply bookmark the songs I really like and I even email those links to my kids if I think they will also enjoy the song.
"So, in practical terms, about 170 years, which does not equal centuries, plural."
English is not a strong point of yours I take it? 170 years is 1.7 CENTURIES - yes it is very much plural - it's more than one century!
Weekends can easily mean 20 to 30 hours of play alone - been there done that with Asheron's Call myself. Another 8+ hours after work is not uncommon with a TV in the same room - you're just multitasking*. While not as extreme I personally spent 6 full months+ of my life playing this game over a nine year period. It was entertainment and I never considered suing someone since I personally made a conscious decision each every time I logged into the server.
* This really does become the thought pattern - "I'd just be up watching TV anyway but now I get to play a game too!"
The scarcity of the music is artificial but beyond the holders' control as far as distribution so wouldn't the next logical step for the museum to take would be to capitalize on the scarcity while it exists?
Creating a surrounding authentic to the times to listen to it would be one good way as mentioned above, selling the "I listened to the Such-and-such Jazz Collection at the National Jazz Museum!" t-shirts would be another. You could use pictures of the museum setting on the shirt to encourage more visitors by giving them a glimpse of the experience.
To take this one step further you could set up a donation box at the museum to receive donations for the rights holders if they are ever found.
Eventually the copyright will end and the museum is holding the only copies so they would be able to also capitalize on initial sales for a brief moment until the recordings hit the interwebs.
Despite the hassle creating the artificial scarcity in the first place (most of us want these circumstances corrected anyway) it seems the museum could indeed benefit both before and after the copyright expires.
I think you hit the nail on the head here Suzanne.
While it is an unfortunate circumstance (practically criminal if you ask me!) to have happen in the first place - the legal ramifications apparently dictate that distribution is probably an area the museum doesn't want to go near. Therefore, as Mike is wont to say - sell the scarcity. The beyond-ironic thing here is that the music and its medium ARE the scarcity, this time but selling discs/tapes ISN'T an option and digital distribution can't be used as the "free" hook to sell a different scarcity. So now a visit to the museum is required but this may be the perfect time to make those t-shirts!!! The ones that say: "I listened to the Such-and-such Jazz Collection at the National Jazz Museum!"
I can personally attest to that as well, but there is a point (mine is easier to get to than most I think) where you just say:
"I can't do this anymore. I work to LIVE, not live to WORK. The trade off of my time for your pay is grossly unbalanced and for my own sanity and dignity I must change jobs."
or
"It's not my life, it's not my wife, it's just a job and I CAN get another one just like I got this one."
The problem is uncertainty scares the hell out of many people and there is no way those words would ever come out of their mouth to their employer because of that fear.
I say "Face your fears and dare to be happy! Hopefully, at least happier!"
Employment is a simple trade of time for money. Anytime the employer wants the employee to do something then the employee should rightfully be paid an amount previously agreed upon at the time of employment.
If you're hourly and "required" to do anything outside the office after your regular shift, then the standing agreement, signed by both parties at the time of employment, is an exchange of X amount of dollars per hour.
If you're a salaried employee and you know of the after hours expectations upon employment, then it is your right to negotiate a salary that you feel comfortable with knowing the expectations you will need to live up to. If the work overrides the salary - renegotiate (ask for more money) or go elsewhere for your employment.
UMMMM... I completely understand about pizza that tastes liek cardboard but now I'm frightened why you even have a reference for the other!!
"The chain pizzas (Dominoes, Pizza Hut, Li'l Ceasars, etc.) have pies in which the taste ranges somewhere between baked holocaust victim and cardboard..."
Just for arguments sake- there is a plane crash in a major city - 8 news vans pull up to cover the story.
Who has the rights to the story - first one there? Eeny meeny miny mo? Pick a number between 1 and a 100??
WTF could you possibly be smoking to make such consistent, asinine comments here in a place where you clearly don't appreciate the format and/or opinion of Mike or the questions he raises?
I'm going to guess you are just a troll, under house arrest left with very few options.
What "IF" fans only paid 10% of what they now (rarely) pay for the music ($2 albums!) and the artist makes 10X more than they used too again leaving the poor publisher out of the entire equation?! Musicians rejoice while they make oodles of money - fans LOVE the 90% discount on now legitimate music and alas the poor publisher bites the dust. I'm just not seeing any drawback here because everyone who did the work (artists) are getting paid even better and the schmuck who sat on his fat ass and did nothing doesn't get a majority slice of the pie that he/she never helped create in the first place. WIN-WIN-WIN!!
The truth is that the drug war is responsible for the existence of gangs.
I disagree. There were gangs long before the drug wars started. The drugs are how gangs make their money. The drugs are a tool used by the gangs to fund their expenses. If there weren't drugs, there would still be gangs, as there were before. Only their source of income would change.
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You really don't get it do you?
Perhaps, I should challenge you to create a successful buggy whip company since you apparently believe outdated industries are a future endeavor worth pursuing.
You didn't miss the tree or the forest, you missed land!
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Really?
FB could try to get the movie out on the torrent sites before release just to wipe out any hope of the movie being successful - because Hollywood is always crying about the internet - they can't make any money because of all the pirates. Well of course the movie will do just fine but FB will have helped prove lots of points made frequently here on TD.
@Pierre - nice post - almost spit coffee on my screen reading it!
Honestly, they should just stay quiet and post a minimal response to the movie in a blog format emphasizing that the movie is a work of fiction and that of course we'd love to have you here on FB so you can see for yourself.
or
Make the movie work FOR you even if it's not scripted as such. Offer discount tickets to the movie by working on a promotional campaign with the studio. How ironic would that be to have FB offer the discount AND possibly pick up even more customers on a movie that makes fun of them - that is marketing genius right there!
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Re: Re: Re: Fees
Ticket Cost: 35
TM Cost: 15
TRYOTCF* Cost: 10
Total: $60
*Ticketmaster Rake-You-Over-The-Coals Fee
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Re: Out of context?
Slingbox has that answer, but then it's on top of ANOTHER bill that we already pay (cable/satellite/FIOS).
I'd love to have one bill and be able to watch whatever my local provider has available on whatever device I choose for say $50 month.
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Re: Satan
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Re: Re: Re: a couple more things...
Yes I have and it was ALL free - much of it came directly from the artists themselves!!
Try http://shuffler.fm - pick your genre and listen away for free - that's right FREE! I don't have to download or copy a damn thing either! I just simply bookmark the songs I really like and I even email those links to my kids if I think they will also enjoy the song.
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Re: centuries
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Re: Do the math
* This really does become the thought pattern - "I'd just be up watching TV anyway but now I get to play a game too!"
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What am I missing here?
Creating a surrounding authentic to the times to listen to it would be one good way as mentioned above, selling the "I listened to the Such-and-such Jazz Collection at the National Jazz Museum!" t-shirts would be another. You could use pictures of the museum setting on the shirt to encourage more visitors by giving them a glimpse of the experience.
To take this one step further you could set up a donation box at the museum to receive donations for the rights holders if they are ever found.
Eventually the copyright will end and the museum is holding the only copies so they would be able to also capitalize on initial sales for a brief moment until the recordings hit the interwebs.
Despite the hassle creating the artificial scarcity in the first place (most of us want these circumstances corrected anyway) it seems the museum could indeed benefit both before and after the copyright expires.
On the post: Treasure Trove Of Jazz To Be Blocked, Perhaps Forever, Thanks To Copyright
Re: Leverage the scarcity
While it is an unfortunate circumstance (practically criminal if you ask me!) to have happen in the first place - the legal ramifications apparently dictate that distribution is probably an area the museum doesn't want to go near. Therefore, as Mike is wont to say - sell the scarcity. The beyond-ironic thing here is that the music and its medium ARE the scarcity, this time but selling discs/tapes ISN'T an option and digital distribution can't be used as the "free" hook to sell a different scarcity. So now a visit to the museum is required but this may be the perfect time to make those t-shirts!!! The ones that say: "I listened to the Such-and-such Jazz Collection at the National Jazz Museum!"
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Re: Re: Pretty simple folks: No pay = no work
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Pretty simple folks: No pay = no work
If you're hourly and "required" to do anything outside the office after your regular shift, then the standing agreement, signed by both parties at the time of employment, is an exchange of X amount of dollars per hour.
If you're a salaried employee and you know of the after hours expectations upon employment, then it is your right to negotiate a salary that you feel comfortable with knowing the expectations you will need to live up to. If the work overrides the salary - renegotiate (ask for more money) or go elsewhere for your employment.
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Re: Jesus...
"The chain pizzas (Dominoes, Pizza Hut, Li'l Ceasars, etc.) have pies in which the taste ranges somewhere between baked holocaust victim and cardboard..."
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Re: Excellent Idea
Please pull your head out - really, please!
Just for arguments sake- there is a plane crash in a major city - 8 news vans pull up to cover the story.
Who has the rights to the story - first one there? Eeny meeny miny mo? Pick a number between 1 and a 100??
WTF could you possibly be smoking to make such consistent, asinine comments here in a place where you clearly don't appreciate the format and/or opinion of Mike or the questions he raises?
I'm going to guess you are just a troll, under house arrest left with very few options.
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Re: Re: Lightweight.
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Re: Lightweight.
How's your Wiki project coming along?
This sounds like a great idea to solve an annoying problem, what part of this project causes you such distress?
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Re: Re: Re: Helps legitimise both
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Re: Re: For a while...
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Re: Weak argument gets weak reply
I find that it's usually because they are either resistant to change or too damn stupid to understand the original problem.
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Re: Re:
I disagree. There were gangs long before the drug wars started. The drugs are how gangs make their money. The drugs are a tool used by the gangs to fund their expenses. If there weren't drugs, there would still be gangs, as there were before. Only their source of income would change.
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