If the US Government allow this data to be destroyed then Mega can just turn around and say "The USG just deleted all the evidence to prove us innocent"
In that case Kim Dotcom and the rest would walk free from Court.
The MPAA like to say that piracy is rampant and a major threat to them. The reality is that the MPAA saw a 65% increase in income between 2000 ($52.8 billion) and 2010 ($87 billion).
Lets hear you say it MPAA... "Thanks piracy for adversing and previewing our products for FREE and helping us to much improve our SALES"
You said to me this... "tech industry prefers to invest its money into more innovation rather than politics"
That to me reads as you believe they would not back our grand political plan which is why I clarified not only that they would but to a high degree as well.
The one thing we can be assured of is that everyone loves the Internet and would want to save it from censorship, monitoring, filtering, blocking and to prevent one group to seize a large chunk of the Internet in their own personal "land grab" in the name of copyright enforcement.
Yes the Internet and Tech Industries are a vastly larger power which means that all together we can "neuter" the copyright abuse they are giving us and to limit the power of their monopolies.
Then at last the Internet itself can innovate ways for how artists can promote and protect their creations. We obviously do welcome and support a vibrant content creation industry.
Well I can't disagree with your points and yes the power of the copyright industry, via the MPAA and RIAA, is totally out of control.
They are now writing Trade Agreement that will in many ways block Government from regulating their own IP laws. That is the first step to all the MPAA/RIAA to regulate copyright enforcement as they please.
Yes it is an incredible lobbying presence for an industry mostly composed of cleaners, caterers and part time workers.
I am not familiar with political problems in Canada but I would be surprised if it is as bad as you claim. I am from the UK and I am well aware that Canada did benefit from our laws and method of Government.
I also know that Canada got banned from the TPP negotiations when they were sent away with the rest saying "if you want to join these negotiation then you need to pass these bad IP laws"
I am doubtful that Government would ignore massive public protest, demonstrations and boycott. And well if they did ignore the call of democracy then that is what riots and arson is for. Ignore it more than civil war and head lopping time.
Spam mail is part of the email system and not the raw data link which was my focus. Then even this would only then apply to email accounts hosted by your ISP.
I should clarify that a filter a person wants on their account, like a spam filter, or near useless CP or adult site filter, should be optional on an opt-in systems. To filter yourself cannot be classed as censorship.
So it is only forced filters also known as censorship which is the problem. My main point is that if it became unlawful for an ISP to force censorship on subscribers then no organization will try making them do so. It also allows people to place more trust their link.
How many ISPs around the entire World are annoyed that organizations like the MPAA and RIAA are wanting them to police, monitor, censor and even terminate their own subscribers?
I can tell you now that ACTA is a big threat to ISPs by making them liable through the back door method. They do not have to think long about what that would mean to their businesses.
For them to partnership with us and to denote required resources certainly seems in their best interests when it is my belief that we can kill ACTA. Nothing is certain of course but hundreds of thousands if not millions of people will certainly make their opposition heard.
We are also going to push back hard and certainly a goal is to keep ISPs as just the pipe that connects people between A and B. In my view as a subscriber I would prefer to make it unlawful for them to censor my link for any reason.
This is not just USA ISPs but ISPs from the entire World which is our next stop after sorting out Congress. We would also have interest from Web 2.0 companies now that their user generated creations are under attack.
I would even go as far to say we could assemble one of the largest lobbying and law creation organizations there has ever been directly aimed not only to protect the Internet but also to recover many of the freedoms that people have lost.
So if your very freedom is not worth supporting this cause then what is?
You may have missed in that the Tech Industry does have a large interest in protecting the free, fair and open nature of the Internet while minimising censorship and regulation.
That we can help them do through neutering the bad parts of copyright protection.
Then you did certainly miss that in this SOPA/PIPA bout in Congress it was the Tech and not the Entertainment industry which won putting them into a prime place to exert some real power into Congress.
And that is an aspect the Tech Industry should not overlook when us united increases their own lobbying power even further. Beyond the millions of voters behind us then there are thousands of businesses around who have been harmed by copyright abuse and would well support our cause to chain this copyright monster.
Well it is nice to have Senator Wyden posting here but this place has received much more political focus after we hard core Interweb folk woke up around 13 million American voters and had them phone their representative.
We should certainly thank Senator Wyden for the many times he has voiced disapproval for the actions of the Entertainment Industry within the Administration and Congress. The disrespect of the Spanish nation and their law system over RojaDirecta, the failure of open and accountable Government and lack of due process with DaJaz1, then beyond many other acts his current stand against this current Tornado of new IP laws.
Anyway once us people here figure out how to write some new bills to sort out the current mess of crazy laws then I hope we can win his approval. Others can be won over through the millions of voters and the millions of $$$ from the Tech and Internet industries.
Take down a dozen sites and millions of songs all falsely then they can just walk away laughing. At most the punishment is minor.
This does not compare in the slightest to the hundreds of million of dollars for sharing a few infringing songs. Jamie Thomas makes a good example.
The law there is totally screwed and devoid from reality. That reminds me add "lower punishment for non-commercial file sharing" to my fix list when we soon invade Congress.
Both follow DMCA law AFAIK but both have been seen bad (copyright or libel) and their safe harbour status to protect from what users do ignored.
I don't think you can take anything from the domain name alone even if you register like rapeisfun.com and upload photos of women. That is not approval for unlawful acts when it could also be viewed in more lawful ways.
Well clearly that site is one making fun of women and insulting them but I doubt many who visit there would take much of what is said seriously. Clearly people are responsible for what they say and not the site owner.
Then here I was not yet over the cupcake incident with the potentially dangerous frosting.
Well I can't say what to make of this either when a brief examination soon highlights a harmless object. At worst you could later refill it and make a politician wet. That is kind of a harder way to do that though when some party balloons work better and easier on security.
In second place would have to come running off with someone's whisky should you be able to find a source.
What most perplexes me is that if they want people to leave object behind then why do they have no lockers? It is hardly helpful to invite say some rich Arab VIPs only to force them to climb through the garbage.
We already knew why they took DaJaz1 down ever since the day they gave it back. All the time before that was a slither of doubt the claims may be right.
Then let us not forget those sites still in limbo like the sister site of DaJaz1 namely OnSmash. You certainly got to be wondering ICE's current OnSmash status when this seized domain does not even display the common DoJ seizure notice.
Then how many others are subject to Governmental censorship due to being a MPAA/RIAA rival?
This song was made before Yelawolf became a UMG artist and so this is nothing to do with UMG. When he did become a UMG artist the recording had to be abandoned for contract reasons.
It is an interesting case when no one can really own this leaked recording. Yelawolf did not license this track and can't now without UMG claiming it. ATS can't use it either because they can get voice approval. Then of course this has nothing to do with UMG.
Only the public can be thankful it was leaked when they are now the only people who can use it.
I would have liked to say people make mistakes and no real harm done.
However it is clearly a huge mistake for UMG to claim ownership on YouTube of a song that they do not own and have not licensed. This is no simple mistake when their own database would clearly tell them that this is not a song they have made.
They may have noticed the leak and made a note of that but it is ATS and not UMG who have to Police their own creation on the Internet. So in no way should UMG ever claim it is their song and to make matters worse UMG may have been sending DMCA take-down notices to many sites to censor both the leaked and official songs.
In the end this only reflects the "media grab" nature of YouTube, how UMG is the king of media grab, and how both this YouTube system and DCMA law is rampantly abused.
Then is it not interesting how we are currently going through a tornado of proposed copyright reform laws but...
NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM ADDRESS
---> THIS REAL PROBLEM
So the MPAA want to win Internet support now? Do they even remember the "Mega" reason why Anonymous have been firing their Ion Cannons at the MPAA website?
Yes lets all sit down to tea and cakes and hear the MPAA say how "Copyright should be eternal with absolute enforcement"
The MPAA has been serving Hollywood's interests for so long that they are totally out-of-touch with the rest of society and I just cannot see how they can muster up some Internet support... at least without bribing them.
I say again what I have said before in that if they want to tackle this "Internet thing" then they should fire Chris Dodd and to put in charge someone who can understand the Internet they aim to regulate.
The MPAA should well know that their future fights are going to get much harder and if they are to get anywhere they need both understanding and with truthful evidence.
I have been thinking recently about something I often hear media authors and rights holders claim in that they should be allowed when and where their media appears.
Considering the massive market abuse we see and the natural creation of monopolies per zone, which is directly against the public interest through harming natural market competition and freedom of choice, then I don't believe that is true at all.
I have long subscribed to the idea of "abuse it, lose it"
Now I would not go as far to say they should lose their rights to their media but what is certainly true is that they should lose their rights to shape and control the market.
I say this when I see a very sad situation emerging in the UK now that NetFlix is here. They have directly stated that their main rival is BSkyB operating the "Sky Digital" service.
Unfortunately these poor Americans in trying to force on Europe the same system they use in the US do not realise what a total butcher job they have done here.
To begin with then despite the fact that anyone with a satellite dish can receive every service within Europe... but forced to subscribe to their closest... in very anti-competitive zoning, which helps global Internet services none, then the very method by which rights agreements are traded will certainly lead to a bloodbath.
NetFlix believe it is in their business interests to compete with Sky over media based on who can bid the most. What they do not realise is that Sky is the monopoly of the UK zone who can certainly exert massive resources to win.
The only way to survive in a monopoly zone is to NOT COMPETE and to instead COOPERATE. If they want to fight Sky over media then this only pushes up the costs of said media for both sides making Hollywood richer.
If they end up paying more for media then this only harms their service and Sky can withstand losses for much longer than NetFlix can. The battle then continues until death which will most likely allow Sky to merge with NetFlix for BSkyB to seize control.
The second major copyright problem is "exclusive agreements" which is a key component to fuel this bidding War and to maintain the monopoly. Non-exclusive agreements would be ideal but under Hollywood's bastardship of Europe the best they could possible aim for is to "share media between each other"
That would certainly be good for the users and to keep prices low but of course Hollywood would fight such a scheme and would much prefer Sky and NetFlix to butcher each other for their own personal enjoyment and profit margin.
NetFlix only need to research BSB and ITV Digital to see where competition (the ideal of a free market) would land them.
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Re: Re: Of course this doesn't make sense...
In that case Kim Dotcom and the rest would walk free from Court.
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Re:
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MPAA
Lets hear you say it MPAA... "Thanks piracy for adversing and previewing our products for FREE and helping us to much improve our SALES"
MPAA Result = Busted.
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Re: Re: Re: It is a winning combination
That to me reads as you believe they would not back our grand political plan which is why I clarified not only that they would but to a high degree as well.
The one thing we can be assured of is that everyone loves the Internet and would want to save it from censorship, monitoring, filtering, blocking and to prevent one group to seize a large chunk of the Internet in their own personal "land grab" in the name of copyright enforcement.
Yes the Internet and Tech Industries are a vastly larger power which means that all together we can "neuter" the copyright abuse they are giving us and to limit the power of their monopolies.
Then at last the Internet itself can innovate ways for how artists can promote and protect their creations. We obviously do welcome and support a vibrant content creation industry.
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Re: Re: Re: It is a winning combination
They are now writing Trade Agreement that will in many ways block Government from regulating their own IP laws. That is the first step to all the MPAA/RIAA to regulate copyright enforcement as they please.
Yes it is an incredible lobbying presence for an industry mostly composed of cleaners, caterers and part time workers.
I am not familiar with political problems in Canada but I would be surprised if it is as bad as you claim. I am from the UK and I am well aware that Canada did benefit from our laws and method of Government.
I also know that Canada got banned from the TPP negotiations when they were sent away with the rest saying "if you want to join these negotiation then you need to pass these bad IP laws"
I am doubtful that Government would ignore massive public protest, demonstrations and boycott. And well if they did ignore the call of democracy then that is what riots and arson is for. Ignore it more than civil war and head lopping time.
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Re: Re: Re: It is a winning combination
Spam mail is part of the email system and not the raw data link which was my focus. Then even this would only then apply to email accounts hosted by your ISP.
I should clarify that a filter a person wants on their account, like a spam filter, or near useless CP or adult site filter, should be optional on an opt-in systems. To filter yourself cannot be classed as censorship.
So it is only forced filters also known as censorship which is the problem. My main point is that if it became unlawful for an ISP to force censorship on subscribers then no organization will try making them do so. It also allows people to place more trust their link.
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Re: It is a winning combination
How many ISPs around the entire World are annoyed that organizations like the MPAA and RIAA are wanting them to police, monitor, censor and even terminate their own subscribers?
I can tell you now that ACTA is a big threat to ISPs by making them liable through the back door method. They do not have to think long about what that would mean to their businesses.
For them to partnership with us and to denote required resources certainly seems in their best interests when it is my belief that we can kill ACTA. Nothing is certain of course but hundreds of thousands if not millions of people will certainly make their opposition heard.
We are also going to push back hard and certainly a goal is to keep ISPs as just the pipe that connects people between A and B. In my view as a subscriber I would prefer to make it unlawful for them to censor my link for any reason.
This is not just USA ISPs but ISPs from the entire World which is our next stop after sorting out Congress. We would also have interest from Web 2.0 companies now that their user generated creations are under attack.
I would even go as far to say we could assemble one of the largest lobbying and law creation organizations there has ever been directly aimed not only to protect the Internet but also to recover many of the freedoms that people have lost.
So if your very freedom is not worth supporting this cause then what is?
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Re: It is a winning combination
That we can help them do through neutering the bad parts of copyright protection.
Then you did certainly miss that in this SOPA/PIPA bout in Congress it was the Tech and not the Entertainment industry which won putting them into a prime place to exert some real power into Congress.
And that is an aspect the Tech Industry should not overlook when us united increases their own lobbying power even further. Beyond the millions of voters behind us then there are thousands of businesses around who have been harmed by copyright abuse and would well support our cause to chain this copyright monster.
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Re:
http://www.opencongress.org/people/money/300100_Ron_Wyden
and...
http://www.opensecr ets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=n00007724
Senator Wyden is not favoured by the Tech Industry when the only Tech support he has received in recent years was some minor funds from Intel.
His main funding comes from Lawyers, Health Professionals, Securities & Investment, Real Estate and Hospitals.
So what does that say when he is not paid to do this?
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Salamat
We should certainly thank Senator Wyden for the many times he has voiced disapproval for the actions of the Entertainment Industry within the Administration and Congress. The disrespect of the Spanish nation and their law system over RojaDirecta, the failure of open and accountable Government and lack of due process with DaJaz1, then beyond many other acts his current stand against this current Tornado of new IP laws.
Anyway once us people here figure out how to write some new bills to sort out the current mess of crazy laws then I hope we can win his approval. Others can be won over through the millions of voters and the millions of $$$ from the Tech and Internet industries.
It is a winning combination.
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Re: I changed my mind
Take down a dozen sites and millions of songs all falsely then they can just walk away laughing. At most the punishment is minor.
This does not compare in the slightest to the hundreds of million of dollars for sharing a few infringing songs. Jamie Thomas makes a good example.
The law there is totally screwed and devoid from reality. That reminds me add "lower punishment for non-commercial file sharing" to my fix list when we soon invade Congress.
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TECH site to throw DIRT on ???
Both follow DMCA law AFAIK but both have been seen bad (copyright or libel) and their safe harbour status to protect from what users do ignored.
I don't think you can take anything from the domain name alone even if you register like rapeisfun.com and upload photos of women. That is not approval for unlawful acts when it could also be viewed in more lawful ways.
Well clearly that site is one making fun of women and insulting them but I doubt many who visit there would take much of what is said seriously. Clearly people are responsible for what they say and not the site owner.
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My little cupcake
Well I can't say what to make of this either when a brief examination soon highlights a harmless object. At worst you could later refill it and make a politician wet. That is kind of a harder way to do that though when some party balloons work better and easier on security.
In second place would have to come running off with someone's whisky should you be able to find a source.
What most perplexes me is that if they want people to leave object behind then why do they have no lockers? It is hardly helpful to invite say some rich Arab VIPs only to force them to climb through the garbage.
That is Washington DC for you.
On the post: Universal Music Claims Copyright Over Song That It Didn't License, Just Because One Of Its Artists Rapped To It On A Leaked Track
Re: Note where the story came from
Then let us not forget those sites still in limbo like the sister site of DaJaz1 namely OnSmash. You certainly got to be wondering ICE's current OnSmash status when this seized domain does not even display the common DoJ seizure notice.
Then how many others are subject to Governmental censorship due to being a MPAA/RIAA rival?
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Re: best bit of vice article
Be happy the monopoly is dead and a free market now rules and we won't allow them to have SOPA & PIPA to bring their monopoly back.
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Re: Partly Right
It is an interesting case when no one can really own this leaked recording. Yelawolf did not license this track and can't now without UMG claiming it. ATS can't use it either because they can get voice approval. Then of course this has nothing to do with UMG.
Only the public can be thankful it was leaked when they are now the only people who can use it.
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UMG again
However it is clearly a huge mistake for UMG to claim ownership on YouTube of a song that they do not own and have not licensed. This is no simple mistake when their own database would clearly tell them that this is not a song they have made.
They may have noticed the leak and made a note of that but it is ATS and not UMG who have to Police their own creation on the Internet. So in no way should UMG ever claim it is their song and to make matters worse UMG may have been sending DMCA take-down notices to many sites to censor both the leaked and official songs.
In the end this only reflects the "media grab" nature of YouTube, how UMG is the king of media grab, and how both this YouTube system and DCMA law is rampantly abused.
Then is it not interesting how we are currently going through a tornado of proposed copyright reform laws but...
NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM ADDRESS
---> THIS REAL PROBLEM
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Right... dream on
Yes lets all sit down to tea and cakes and hear the MPAA say how "Copyright should be eternal with absolute enforcement"
The MPAA has been serving Hollywood's interests for so long that they are totally out-of-touch with the rest of society and I just cannot see how they can muster up some Internet support... at least without bribing them.
I say again what I have said before in that if they want to tackle this "Internet thing" then they should fire Chris Dodd and to put in charge someone who can understand the Internet they aim to regulate.
The MPAA should well know that their future fights are going to get much harder and if they are to get anywhere they need both understanding and with truthful evidence.
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Monopoly
Considering the massive market abuse we see and the natural creation of monopolies per zone, which is directly against the public interest through harming natural market competition and freedom of choice, then I don't believe that is true at all.
I have long subscribed to the idea of "abuse it, lose it"
Now I would not go as far to say they should lose their rights to their media but what is certainly true is that they should lose their rights to shape and control the market.
I say this when I see a very sad situation emerging in the UK now that NetFlix is here. They have directly stated that their main rival is BSkyB operating the "Sky Digital" service.
Unfortunately these poor Americans in trying to force on Europe the same system they use in the US do not realise what a total butcher job they have done here.
To begin with then despite the fact that anyone with a satellite dish can receive every service within Europe... but forced to subscribe to their closest... in very anti-competitive zoning, which helps global Internet services none, then the very method by which rights agreements are traded will certainly lead to a bloodbath.
NetFlix believe it is in their business interests to compete with Sky over media based on who can bid the most. What they do not realise is that Sky is the monopoly of the UK zone who can certainly exert massive resources to win.
The only way to survive in a monopoly zone is to NOT COMPETE and to instead COOPERATE. If they want to fight Sky over media then this only pushes up the costs of said media for both sides making Hollywood richer.
If they end up paying more for media then this only harms their service and Sky can withstand losses for much longer than NetFlix can. The battle then continues until death which will most likely allow Sky to merge with NetFlix for BSkyB to seize control.
The second major copyright problem is "exclusive agreements" which is a key component to fuel this bidding War and to maintain the monopoly. Non-exclusive agreements would be ideal but under Hollywood's bastardship of Europe the best they could possible aim for is to "share media between each other"
That would certainly be good for the users and to keep prices low but of course Hollywood would fight such a scheme and would much prefer Sky and NetFlix to butcher each other for their own personal enjoyment and profit margin.
NetFlix only need to research BSB and ITV Digital to see where competition (the ideal of a free market) would land them.
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Re: Steamboat Willie
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