Re: Another misinformed notion from Out_Of_The_Blue
Masnick clearly partisan abusing administrative position, which pretty much voids Section 230 protections for all time.
You are wrong. Dead wrong. Mike could delete comments and ban users all he wants and still remain protected by Section 230.
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Are you really claiming that Mike et al. follow widely-recognized journalistic standards? They don't. This isn't even a close call.
First off, Mike has always claimed Techdirt is an opinion blog that sometimes does journalism, so I'm not sure why this is an issue for you.
Secondly, based on my personal observations, Techdirt holds itself to higher standards than most of the mainstream media outlets. For example, if a MSM outlet published an incorrect story that came off the AP wire, they would simply disappear the article and act like it never happened. Mike, at the very least, has the testicular fortitude to leave the article in place and face up to the mistakes.
And lastly, I don't believe that MSM holds itself up to these "journalistic standards" you speak of and haven't for the last 30 years or so.
Re: Yes, I Was Deeked By Two Hoax Kim Davis Stories Today, more than usual.
By the way, there's no actual law that compels Kim Davis to act. Nope. Not in Kentucky.
What the hell are you yapping about here? Separation of church and state has been binding legal doctrine for quite awhile now.
Ms. Davis has every right to hold the beliefs she does, but on the other hand, she cannot use her position as a representative of the government to impose those views on others, which is exactly what she is doing. The highest court in our land has declared same-sex marriages legal and as a representative of the government she MUST grant those licenses, as per her job description. If she cannot do that with a clear conscience, then she must resign her position because she is unable to carry out the duties she was elected to perform.
One other thought to mull over: Would we allow Ms. Davis to deny marriage licenses to multi-racial couples because of her beliefs?
It is quite likely that the problem spreadsheets implement things that should never have been implemented in a spread sheet in the first place. Many of them are unmaintainable, never mind not portable; and a huge security risk as well.
Agreed. My experience with VBA was creating a "hack" to extract data from huge a Btrieve database into spreadsheets for upper management because spreadsheets were what they were used seeing even though we had a beautiful front-end for the database which could do what they wanted more efficiently.
VBA, which means it is a full feature window's programming environment.
I had forgotten about VBA. I haven't had to program with that crap since the 90's. I believe OpenOffice and LibreOffice are working on compatibility for VBA. They also have their own BASIC for writing macros.
But the fact is, most of the companies we deal with still use Excel, and LibreOffice Calc isn't ready to replace it.
Could you elaborate on this point?
I am not an accountant, but I have used spreadsheets for the the last 30 years or so and I haven't seen much change in the basic functionality of spreadsheet applications since Lotus 123. What is it that Calc cannot do that Excel can?
My paycheck involves me being able to run a bunch of software that Linux can't run, and use a bunch of hardware Linux can't support.
Have you actually verified these statements or are you just dismissing Linux out of hand?
I know it's hard to believe that computers are used for other things that what you personally use them for, but it is a thing that happens.
Nice dismissive statement there, irrelevant to our discussion, but nice.
Linux isn't ready for primetime....
In your opinion, not mine. You haven't put forth any viable enough arguments to really change that.
...for musicians. It just isn't.
Wait. When did we limit our discussion to musicians? I missed that part.
Out of curiosity, are you usually this paranoid, or just when the utility of your pet OS is questioned.
Paranoid? No. Concerned about the slow erosion of privacy and security in this day and age. Yes. Very much so. Just as I've always been.
One of the first computers I've owned came with PC DOS 1.1. I've watched Microsoft their entire lifespan. I simply do not trust them anymore. Linux gives me an alternative. It's that simple.
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Fair enough. I've never had too many hardware problems on any distos I've installed so far, but Ok.
And yes, the NVIDIA driver problems have always existed. But if you want to blame anyone for that, blame NVIDIA for being dicks and ignoring the Linux community for so long. Although those problems are being addressed and (hopefully) will be less of a pain in the future.
Ok. I'm bailing out of this discussion now. Bottom line, in my humble opinion, is that if you wish give up more and more of your privacy to Microsoft (because who knows what spyware the next update from Redmond will bring), because it might take a little bit of learning and patience to get going on Linux, have at it. I, on the the other hand, will opt to keep control of the hardware I purchase.
That's a far cry from 'Gimp and Photoshop are interchangeable'.
For me, it is. I could continue to keep up with my workflow with either one, with the possible exception of the lack of the proprietary Pantone Color System.
The issue of CMYK in GIMP has been addressed with a plugin. Although I've never used it since we get better results printing to our solvent ink jet printers with RBG anyways.
Just my observation, my friend. Your results may vary.
For what I use them for in my daily work load they are basically interchangeable. For some things, like filter effects, I find the OS ones to actually be easier with fewer steps. I am on an older version of Adobe, so that might make a bit difference too.
The price comparison obviously is tilted towards GIMP, since it's free and what does Adobe CS run these days? $4000 a seat? Another plus is that I can run GIMP with or without a internet connection (ie: on-site at customer's location) and you can't even begin to run Adobe Cloud without it phoning home.
Do you seriously think the Gimp and Inkscape are professional grade applications?
I do. I use Adobe Creative Suite, GIMP, and Inkscape everyday in my profession as a Graphic Designer. Adobe does some stuff better and the OS ones do other things better, but basically they are more or less interchangeable when it come to functionality.
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yes I have, but my question is did she pick out the linux distro and install it herself? It is a simple yes or no. If the answer is no then everything you said is null and void.
No offense, but you seem to be nudging the goalposts a bit here.
If someone is worried about the intrusiveness of Windows 10 enough to make the switch to Linux, they probably will be smart enough to do a little independent research themselves.
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On an aside:
I've had to use LiveCD versions of Linux to fix Windows problems quite often (especially those wonderful infinite reboot problems Windows has when a registry item has gotten borked or infected). I boot up the LiveCD, access the Windows partition and edit the registry instead of the "recommended" solution of re-installing Windows from the original CD (which the user never bothered to actually burn in the first place) and losing everything the user has created or installed.
but most of you want everyone to uninsall windows and put on a linux distro, Do you not see the problem here? Most people can not do that. I know techs can and I know some of you do it for your customers, but for the average person with no tech or no $$$$ to pay you, how do they go about doing it?
In most cases, simply download the LiveCD, burn it to a disc, boot to the CD drive and then follow the on screen instructions. Not brain surgery anymore. Quite a few distros have Live CD's that will even start the install when you pop the CD in when running Windows.
My experiences are similar. I am also sticking with plain Debian at this time.
Not only did I experience some problems with Ubuntu, I also found Debian's overall philosophy and commitment to the Open Software movement more appealing than a distro controlled by a for-profit company like Canonical.
If the learning curve was as easy as you say then Linux would be the operating system of choice.
The adoption rate of Linux has nothing to do with the ease of operation. It has much more to do with lock-in licensing between hardware manufacturers and Microsoft than anything else. If you have to pay the Microsoft tax on a new computer whether you want Windows or not, why not use the operating system you were forced to pay for?
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Re: Another misinformed notion from Out_Of_The_Blue
You are wrong. Dead wrong. Mike could delete comments and ban users all he wants and still remain protected by Section 230.
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First off, Mike has always claimed Techdirt is an opinion blog that sometimes does journalism, so I'm not sure why this is an issue for you.
Secondly, based on my personal observations, Techdirt holds itself to higher standards than most of the mainstream media outlets. For example, if a MSM outlet published an incorrect story that came off the AP wire, they would simply disappear the article and act like it never happened. Mike, at the very least, has the testicular fortitude to leave the article in place and face up to the mistakes.
And lastly, I don't believe that MSM holds itself up to these "journalistic standards" you speak of and haven't for the last 30 years or so.
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Real musicians have day jobs.
See, I can put out ironic oversimplifications too.
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Re: Yes, I Was Deeked By Two Hoax Kim Davis Stories Today, more than usual.
What the hell are you yapping about here? Separation of church and state has been binding legal doctrine for quite awhile now.
Ms. Davis has every right to hold the beliefs she does, but on the other hand, she cannot use her position as a representative of the government to impose those views on others, which is exactly what she is doing. The highest court in our land has declared same-sex marriages legal and as a representative of the government she MUST grant those licenses, as per her job description. If she cannot do that with a clear conscience, then she must resign her position because she is unable to carry out the duties she was elected to perform.
One other thought to mull over: Would we allow Ms. Davis to deny marriage licenses to multi-racial couples because of her beliefs?
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Agreed. My experience with VBA was creating a "hack" to extract data from huge a Btrieve database into spreadsheets for upper management because spreadsheets were what they were used seeing even though we had a beautiful front-end for the database which could do what they wanted more efficiently.
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I had forgotten about VBA. I haven't had to program with that crap since the 90's. I believe OpenOffice and LibreOffice are working on compatibility for VBA. They also have their own BASIC for writing macros.
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Could you elaborate on this point?
I am not an accountant, but I have used spreadsheets for the the last 30 years or so and I haven't seen much change in the basic functionality of spreadsheet applications since Lotus 123. What is it that Calc cannot do that Excel can?
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Wow. Just having a discussion here. No need to be an asshole. Have a nice life.
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Have you actually verified these statements or are you just dismissing Linux out of hand?
I know it's hard to believe that computers are used for other things that what you personally use them for, but it is a thing that happens.
Nice dismissive statement there, irrelevant to our discussion, but nice.
Linux isn't ready for primetime....
In your opinion, not mine. You haven't put forth any viable enough arguments to really change that.
...for musicians. It just isn't.
Wait. When did we limit our discussion to musicians? I missed that part.
Out of curiosity, are you usually this paranoid, or just when the utility of your pet OS is questioned.
Paranoid? No. Concerned about the slow erosion of privacy and security in this day and age. Yes. Very much so. Just as I've always been.
One of the first computers I've owned came with PC DOS 1.1. I've watched Microsoft their entire lifespan. I simply do not trust them anymore. Linux gives me an alternative. It's that simple.
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Just out of curiosity, do you have some sort of vested interest (like your paycheck perhaps?) in keeping Windows as most used OS?
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And yes, the NVIDIA driver problems have always existed. But if you want to blame anyone for that, blame NVIDIA for being dicks and ignoring the Linux community for so long. Although those problems are being addressed and (hopefully) will be less of a pain in the future.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/nvidia-seeks-peace-with-linux-pledges-h elp-on-open-source-driver/
Ok. I'm bailing out of this discussion now. Bottom line, in my humble opinion, is that if you wish give up more and more of your privacy to Microsoft (because who knows what spyware the next update from Redmond will bring), because it might take a little bit of learning and patience to get going on Linux, have at it. I, on the the other hand, will opt to keep control of the hardware I purchase.
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For me, it is. I could continue to keep up with my workflow with either one, with the possible exception of the lack of the proprietary Pantone Color System.
The issue of CMYK in GIMP has been addressed with a plugin. Although I've never used it since we get better results printing to our solvent ink jet printers with RBG anyways.
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For what I use them for in my daily work load they are basically interchangeable. For some things, like filter effects, I find the OS ones to actually be easier with fewer steps. I am on an older version of Adobe, so that might make a bit difference too.
The price comparison obviously is tilted towards GIMP, since it's free and what does Adobe CS run these days? $4000 a seat? Another plus is that I can run GIMP with or without a internet connection (ie: on-site at customer's location) and you can't even begin to run Adobe Cloud without it phoning home.
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I do. I use Adobe Creative Suite, GIMP, and Inkscape everyday in my profession as a Graphic Designer. Adobe does some stuff better and the OS ones do other things better, but basically they are more or less interchangeable when it come to functionality.
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No offense, but you seem to be nudging the goalposts a bit here.
If someone is worried about the intrusiveness of Windows 10 enough to make the switch to Linux, they probably will be smart enough to do a little independent research themselves.
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I've had to use LiveCD versions of Linux to fix Windows problems quite often (especially those wonderful infinite reboot problems Windows has when a registry item has gotten borked or infected). I boot up the LiveCD, access the Windows partition and edit the registry instead of the "recommended" solution of re-installing Windows from the original CD (which the user never bothered to actually burn in the first place) and losing everything the user has created or installed.
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In most cases, simply download the LiveCD, burn it to a disc, boot to the CD drive and then follow the on screen instructions. Not brain surgery anymore. Quite a few distros have Live CD's that will even start the install when you pop the CD in when running Windows.
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Re: Re: Mint versus 'buntu
Not only did I experience some problems with Ubuntu, I also found Debian's overall philosophy and commitment to the Open Software movement more appealing than a distro controlled by a for-profit company like Canonical.
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The adoption rate of Linux has nothing to do with the ease of operation. It has much more to do with lock-in licensing between hardware manufacturers and Microsoft than anything else. If you have to pay the Microsoft tax on a new computer whether you want Windows or not, why not use the operating system you were forced to pay for?
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