Re: So, just "route around" it! Where are your solutions when needed?
YOT, the deep-packet inspection gadgetry and or software has been put in place, just as I've been saying and many here don't want to acknowledge.
Of course it's in place. Not every ISP has it, but certainly the government does. That doesn't mean that encryption and/or proxies cannot bypass it. Luckily, here in the good ol US of A we have a constitutional right to anonymous speech. I'm sure the UK will figure it out eventually.
This too is a logical step. As I've /tried/ to get across to you who think you'll have an easy time dodging and continuing to pirate, they're WAY ahead of you, already know the holes and will plug them up.
You can't remove the tools without infringing on legitimate anonymous free speech, as SCOTUS has expressly ruled a Constitutional right.
You cannot provide an automated tool to remove content without giving those whose intent is to censor/limit political discourse a strong tool to keep us uninformed.
Us sane people have decided that a strong guarantee of free speech is worth any copyright infringement that might come along with it.
I personally don't care about your piracy strawman. I don't participate and it's not my problem. What I do care about is censorship, corporate bullying, and some semblance of a level playing when monied special interests compete with the interest of the greater general public. I care about our economy and our democracy.
If people want to have silly fights about silly songs and videos, let them. Leave my privacy to me. Leave my right to speak freely and hear others speech unfettered alone and until those monied interests understand that these are non negotiable to a large portion of the people, I will take pleasure in watching them fail.
Unless you also ban encryption on the internet, it wouldn't work anyway. The logging device would just capture an encrypted stream of data that would need 2 keys to decrypt, one for the black box and one for the encrypted stream of data.
Luckily, the social structure of the internet is such that as soon as something it is taken down, it will immediately be reposted everywhere. It will be reposted with the news "the US government doesn't want you to see this." Everyone and their mother will soon know about it. Think the Streisand effect on steroids.
Personally, I had never heard of Puerto80 or rojadirecta before the US government took them down. I still don't care enough to visit their site, but at least I now know that if I really wanted to find direct streaming of sporting events, rojadirecta is where to look.
I think you're forgetting that China already uses several means to block US competition in their country and elsewhere. This seems like an intelligent move on the US's part.
In fact, I bet Chinese actions in the US/China dynamic is behind a lot of the political will to pass the asinine IP laws that are discussed here.
I wouldn't be surprised if Right Haven operates week to week or month to month by cash infusions from Stephens Media and they are currently trying to figure out of it is more legally advantageous to quickly declare bankruptcy or pay up to avoid having a court ordered trustee see the full details of the arrangement.
Google does search well. Other than that, I find their services lacking. I don't really like Gmail's interface, I don't know why, I just don't. Google docs is inferior to MS Office and Libre Office, though as a file sharing platform it's not too bad.
If Google released a good set of API's I could change Gmail's interface to be more pleasing and others could start integrating more convenient office features into Google Docs.
Android does show real promise. Maybe that is a good incubator for developing a more platform oriented service.
Well, at least it's comforting to see entertainment execs living up to expectations. They will stick their heads firmly back into the sand and shout "LALALA piracy LALALA. Help me government we cannot compete.(because we're dumb)" and nothing will change.
Meanwhile, my viewing habits will not change other than one less (and usually inferior) source for entertainment.
Seems like a sensible course of action for universal. People might actually go see their movie in the theater. No one was going to rent it for 60 bucks. That price is ridiculous and no one in their right mind would pay it.
Wow, that is the really short sighted victory. People who mod their consoles at least pay Nintendo. The emulator scene has already beat the Wii, and every other Nintendo console.
This is another case of punishing paying customers and doing nothing to stop those whom don't pay at all.
I have criticisms of Google, mostly revolving around user privacy and user information storage.
However, whose business do these people think they are doing? It is certainly not mine. I like Google's search engine. I like the services they provide. If they start failing due to market competition then that's okay but we don't need these asshats helping to kill a company that's shown to be successful.
Which competitor do you think decided to bribe our Congressmen to put Google at the top of their "regulate a successful business into the ground" hit list?
I would bet Apple, but I wouldn't bet against Microsoft either.
Asshats...
"We don't have enough jobs, maybe we can take apart a competitive successful businesses to improve that situation"
Poor countries will have even less reason to care about these agreements. I doubt it will even make a difference most places.
If the citizens of these countries have the technical ability and economic/political motivation, I fully expect them to give us the middle finger and do it anyway, as they should.
"Because I will sleep with you if you agree with me" (for some) and "Because I will give you a big pile of money if you agree with me" do qualify as self interest, but you have to state it explicitly instead of implying it through a ridiculous ad campaign.
Explain how and why your position is in my self interest and I will be convinced. Short of that, I'm not known for changing my stances because they usually already align with my self interest.
Maybe the only benefit was the people consumed less of what was actually terrible for them and ate whole grains instead, maybe whole grains are inherently good for you. Either way there does seem to be a benefit for at least some people.
And here's a paper that debunks your serum cholesterol stance with extensive citations.
I'm glad we have Google now. Just think, when that study was published it would have taken more than 15 min to debunk people with dangerous medical ideas.
I didn't bother to look up statins. Someone else can... or not.
It's the military. It doesn't have to make sense. They have complete autonomy to enforce any ridiculous draconian rule they want, and they do so at every chance possible. According to several of my friends whom have served, they cannot even criticize the President of the United States. I understand he's their boss but that seems to against everything this country is supposed to stand for.
Personally, I don't understand why people want to give up their most basic freedoms to serve, but I'm glad they do.
After they ruin Netflix by imposing more ridiculous conditions and price increases on it, at least the dvd mailer service will still exist in the form of qwickster for those whom want it.
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Re: So, just "route around" it! Where are your solutions when needed?
Of course it's in place. Not every ISP has it, but certainly the government does. That doesn't mean that encryption and/or proxies cannot bypass it. Luckily, here in the good ol US of A we have a constitutional right to anonymous speech. I'm sure the UK will figure it out eventually.
You can't remove the tools without infringing on legitimate anonymous free speech, as SCOTUS has expressly ruled a Constitutional right.
You cannot provide an automated tool to remove content without giving those whose intent is to censor/limit political discourse a strong tool to keep us uninformed.
Us sane people have decided that a strong guarantee of free speech is worth any copyright infringement that might come along with it.
I personally don't care about your piracy strawman. I don't participate and it's not my problem. What I do care about is censorship, corporate bullying, and some semblance of a level playing when monied special interests compete with the interest of the greater general public. I care about our economy and our democracy.
If people want to have silly fights about silly songs and videos, let them. Leave my privacy to me. Leave my right to speak freely and hear others speech unfettered alone and until those monied interests understand that these are non negotiable to a large portion of the people, I will take pleasure in watching them fail.
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1. At some point, either a higher court or the legislature will see this as the technological cluelessness that it is and over rule this judge
2. The entertainment industry will not see any improvement in revenue and may experience an economic or political backlash
3. Anyone who wants to spend 10 minutes on their favorite search engine bypassing the block will get around it anyway
:popcorn:
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Unworkable Anyway...
Bypassing this system would be trivial.
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Personally, I had never heard of Puerto80 or rojadirecta before the US government took them down. I still don't care enough to visit their site, but at least I now know that if I really wanted to find direct streaming of sporting events, rojadirecta is where to look.
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In fact, I bet Chinese actions in the US/China dynamic is behind a lot of the political will to pass the asinine IP laws that are discussed here.
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That's just my guess, but it sounds like them.
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If Google released a good set of API's I could change Gmail's interface to be more pleasing and others could start integrating more convenient office features into Google Docs.
Android does show real promise. Maybe that is a good incubator for developing a more platform oriented service.
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Meanwhile, my viewing habits will not change other than one less (and usually inferior) source for entertainment.
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Re: But Honestly....
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This is another case of punishing paying customers and doing nothing to stop those whom don't pay at all.
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I have criticisms of Google, mostly revolving around user privacy and user information storage.
However, whose business do these people think they are doing? It is certainly not mine. I like Google's search engine. I like the services they provide. If they start failing due to market competition then that's okay but we don't need these asshats helping to kill a company that's shown to be successful.
Which competitor do you think decided to bribe our Congressmen to put Google at the top of their "regulate a successful business into the ground" hit list?
I would bet Apple, but I wouldn't bet against Microsoft either.
Asshats...
"We don't have enough jobs, maybe we can take apart a competitive successful businesses to improve that situation"
unbelievable...
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Poor countries will have even less reason to care about these agreements. I doubt it will even make a difference most places.
If the citizens of these countries have the technical ability and economic/political motivation, I fully expect them to give us the middle finger and do it anyway, as they should.
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"Because I will sleep with you if you agree with me" (for some) and "Because I will give you a big pile of money if you agree with me" do qualify as self interest, but you have to state it explicitly instead of implying it through a ridiculous ad campaign.
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Fire the police chief
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Re: Science is not done by show of hands.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070509161030.htm
Maybe the only benefit was the people consumed less of what was actually terrible for them and ate whole grains instead, maybe whole grains are inherently good for you. Either way there does seem to be a benefit for at least some people.
And here's a paper that debunks your serum cholesterol stance with extensive citations.
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/81/5/1721.full.pdf
I'm glad we have Google now. Just think, when that study was published it would have taken more than 15 min to debunk people with dangerous medical ideas.
I didn't bother to look up statins. Someone else can... or not.
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Personally, I don't understand why people want to give up their most basic freedoms to serve, but I'm glad they do.
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