Re: Re: Can I Suggest You Don’t Use URL Shorteners?
I understand the URL shorteners introduce an additional point of failure, but bitly says it's going to try to archive is shortened links in a way that even if it goes down, the links will still be accessible... not sure when they'll actually deliver on that goal, but at least they're trying?
Also, as long as bitly is operational, you can see what the original link is by adding a "+" to the end of the shortened URL. http://bit.ly/pages/help#i_3_4
On top of that, I've included the original URL at the end of each blurb.... and those won't go away either.
Science does have self-correcting mechanisms.. but I still think it can fail at times. I don't think any human endeavor is immune to failure or mistakes.
In this particular case, I think the standard process of publishing a paper free of "big errors" wasn't exactly followed. It happens all the time, I know. But for articles that have less impact, no one cares too much. For this arsenic lifeform story, the evidence should have been scrutinized a bit more.
Lawrence... not sure if you've noticed, but I've put the full URLs at the end of each blurb.
I'm using bitly links because I like to see how many people click-through on the links (so I can get a vague idea of how popular a topic is). The stats will eventually influence what topics I choose for future posts.
Not sure why people hate bitly links so much... especially when the full URLs are provided. But if people REALLY hate them, we'll try to look for alternatives. (Any suggestions on how to track clicks without using a URL shortener?)
Not sure I'm contradicting anything -- "pretty good" on the Uncanny Valley graph could be right on the edge of the "cliff" on the left side of the valley.
Perhaps there's even a "Wiley E Coyote" effect where an image could be suspended over the valley for a little bit before it plummets into creepiness... :)
This publication WAS peer reviewed... so I'm not sure what you're talking about? In any case, discoveries are also certainly subject to peer review. There are TONS of things that peers can say when they review a discovery -- in fact, many of the critiques that have been published after the arsenic-life announcement mentioned that their suggestions SHOULD have been part of peer review before the paper was published.
And actually, many papers that don't get anywhere near as much attention are also "discoveries" -- and get peer reviewed before publication. Many "discoveries" are rejected in that process as well....
That Final Fantasy movie was pretty good, but not quite on the other side of the valley -- in my opinion. It wasn't creepy, but when you airbrush real human images too much, the images are no longer that realistic. That's why Aki Ross was able to fit right into the Maxim Hot 100 in 2001:
I've included the long version of the link as a [url], so if you really don't want to use the shortened links, it's easily available for you.
I'm not trying to hide anything from you. In fact, by using these shortened links, more information is available to you. If you add a "+" at the end of any bitly link, you will get a page of the clickthrough statistics (and the full URL is also revealed on that page, too).
As for "messing" with search rankings, if you'd like me to switch to google's URL shortener (eg. goo.gl URLs), I'd be willing to do that, too. But given that bitly's data are public for every link that it shortens, I would guess that bitly is more "search engine neutral" -- allowing Bing, Google, etc to know what the long URLs are.
Maybe you don't like your clicks going through a Libyan domain? In that case, Goo.gl URLs shouldn't have that problem (nor should j.mp URLs).
Ultimately, I'm interested in knowing what topics are popular with the Techdirt audience (besides copyright/trademark issues). If you don't want to participate in my experiment by clicking on the shortened links -- again, I've included the long URLs at the end.
That last link goes to a NYT page -- which will probably give folks a login prompt... I don't think there's a way around that anymore for NYT links, so I'll try to avoid NYT links in the future.
Not trying to annoying anyone with the bitly links, and the links should re-direct in a friendly way... we just want an idea of how popular these new quicklinks are with folks. I suppose we could also include the "real" link for those of you who hate URL shorteners....
So that last BillBoard.com paragraph is interesting:
Before the release, Atomic Tom will capitalize on the video's success by heading out on the road this fall. Although the group will play "Take Me Out," and the rest of "The Moment," using real instruments, White would not be opposed to the group performing on their iPhones in concert. "I'm sure we'll be requested to do so, and we'd be happy to oblige," says White.
I wonder if this band will be able to get some Apple money to play on their iPhones in concert -- that would be an awesome and "unique" way for a band to earn money.
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Re: Re: Can I Suggest You Don’t Use URL Shorteners?
Also, as long as bitly is operational, you can see what the original link is by adding a "+" to the end of the shortened URL.
http://bit.ly/pages/help#i_3_4
On top of that, I've included the original URL at the end of each blurb.... and those won't go away either.
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Bacon on the other hand....
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Re: Never fails?
In this particular case, I think the standard process of publishing a paper free of "big errors" wasn't exactly followed. It happens all the time, I know. But for articles that have less impact, no one cares too much. For this arsenic lifeform story, the evidence should have been scrutinized a bit more.
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Re: Can I Suggest You Don’t Use URL Shorteners?
I'm using bitly links because I like to see how many people click-through on the links (so I can get a vague idea of how popular a topic is). The stats will eventually influence what topics I choose for future posts.
Not sure why people hate bitly links so much... especially when the full URLs are provided. But if people REALLY hate them, we'll try to look for alternatives. (Any suggestions on how to track clicks without using a URL shortener?)
Thanks for the feedback,
mikeho
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the FF movie
Perhaps there's even a "Wiley E Coyote" effect where an image could be suspended over the valley for a little bit before it plummets into creepiness... :)
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Re: Since when do you peer review a discovery?
This publication WAS peer reviewed... so I'm not sure what you're talking about? In any case, discoveries are also certainly subject to peer review. There are TONS of things that peers can say when they review a discovery -- in fact, many of the critiques that have been published after the arsenic-life announcement mentioned that their suggestions SHOULD have been part of peer review before the paper was published.
And actually, many papers that don't get anywhere near as much attention are also "discoveries" -- and get peer reviewed before publication. Many "discoveries" are rejected in that process as well....
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Re: XKCD
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Re: Re: the FF movie
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Ffmaxim_aki_ross.jpg
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Re: AI, interesting concept for copyright
Or maybe there are already CS folks working on programs that can automatically write patent applications..... :P
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Re: Thanks!
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I've included the long version of the link as a [url], so if you really don't want to use the shortened links, it's easily available for you.
I'm not trying to hide anything from you. In fact, by using these shortened links, more information is available to you. If you add a "+" at the end of any bitly link, you will get a page of the clickthrough statistics (and the full URL is also revealed on that page, too).
As for "messing" with search rankings, if you'd like me to switch to google's URL shortener (eg. goo.gl URLs), I'd be willing to do that, too. But given that bitly's data are public for every link that it shortens, I would guess that bitly is more "search engine neutral" -- allowing Bing, Google, etc to know what the long URLs are.
Maybe you don't like your clicks going through a Libyan domain? In that case, Goo.gl URLs shouldn't have that problem (nor should j.mp URLs).
Ultimately, I'm interested in knowing what topics are popular with the Techdirt audience (besides copyright/trademark issues). If you don't want to participate in my experiment by clicking on the shortened links -- again, I've included the long URLs at the end.
Hope this helps,
Mike
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apologies in advance...
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Re: Please Don’t Do Paywalled Links
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Re: Re: the most infamous immortal cells - HeLa cells
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html
Henrietta Lacks' DNA will probably outlive us all...
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Re: but..
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Re: calculated PR stunt, it is...
Before the release, Atomic Tom will capitalize on the video's success by heading out on the road this fall. Although the group will play "Take Me Out," and the rest of "The Moment," using real instruments, White would not be opposed to the group performing on their iPhones in concert. "I'm sure we'll be requested to do so, and we'd be happy to oblige," says White.
I wonder if this band will be able to get some Apple money to play on their iPhones in concert -- that would be an awesome and "unique" way for a band to earn money.
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Re: On Puns
Mike Masnick didn't write this one, but my name is also Mike, so there's always a bit of confusion with Mike's around here...
Anyway, I'm not the exceptional writer that Mike Masnick is, so your pointer will be noted for future reference as I brush up my skills. :)
-- the other mike at techdirt
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