I've recently been in a discussion with an educated and reasonable gentleman who mostly agrees with me on the philosophy of imaginary property. However, he made the claim that trademark law's purpose was not, as you claim, to protect the consumer, but instead to protect the producer. I pointed out that a quick search of "trademark law purpose" reveals a page worth of sources all stating the purpose is consumer protection. However, this reasonable gentlemen responded with "I do disagree about the original purpose (not any modern stated purpose) of trademark, but that's of minor consequence. Thanks for the research regardless".
Do you know of any sources you could recommend that might change this gentleman's mind? Perhaps a source that mentions the justifications the folks who actually proposed original trademark laws in the US used, since he seems to think that somehow modern sources are not talking about the original purpose of the law and instead talking about how the law is used today.
Your phone's dialog is a poor example, that is an opt-in scenario. You have to explicitly select "Allow", otherwise you will not be opted in.
An opt-out scenario would be if the phone automatically assumed it was allowed, but if you chose to go into some settings menu somewhere you could choose to turn that off.
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What's really funny is that you're proving yourself wrong here.
The guy you are replying to had a point to make, and he made it. You had a point to make, and you made it by appropriating his post and making very minor changes. Both of these were valid things to say and your right to free speech means you can make your point even though it is just "stealing" the words of someone else and adding "COW".
Yeah, I'm really going to want to be tied to a data connection to listen to my music...Wait, no, that would be awful. Even when wifi access becomes ubiquitous I'm still not going to want my music to suffer from outages when I could have it all with me without that hassle.
You couldn't prove it?
"How did you get this answer for 5476 * 126?"
"I calculated it in my head."
"I don't believe you."
"OK, ask me to multiply 2 different numbers."
"3748 * 424"
"1589152"
"Oh, I guess you can do it. OK."
Why do the law's authors stop at the internet? I should be able to demand the erasure of any information about me, no matter whether it's on the internet or not. If a newspaper publishes an article about me, I demand the right to destroy every copy of that newspaper after the designated time-to-forget it. And if anyone writes a book about me, I really ought to have the right to have a good ol' fashioned book burning after enough time has gone by.
Hell, what if someone out there just has a good memory, and remembers what I did? They'll have to be lobotomized, of course. I have a right to make them forget.
It's pretty funny to say "the buyers don't seem to feel like suckers" when not realizing that you're a sucker is essentially the core part of the definition of being a sucker. The only time a sucker feels like a sucker is when further information comes to their attention that reveals to them the way they were duped.
In this case, if the buyers ever grew brain cells and realized there is no such thing as celebrity mojo, they would feel like the suckers they are.
copyright and trademark definitely do NOT have "pretty much the same effect" except the effect of "confusing people who don't know much about copyright and trademark".
Maybe you had difficulty reading it, but this article is about comments made by George Bush. This is why comments are about George Bush. When an article is posted about Barack Obama, comments will be about Barack Obama. See how that works?
have Bush apologetics gotten to the point where the best you can do is "Yeah, he may have lied to the country to send us into a failed war that cost trillions of dollars and killed countless people, but he was President of the United States, so that's got to count for something!"?
Well, I know when I look for who to trust, a guy whose biggest claim to fame is lying to the whole country in order to send us into a unnecessary failed war. So whatever Bush is saying about Assange, it has to be trustworthy.
Well, unless you believe that we all should have the right to own nuclear missiles, you probably agree that the 2nd Amendment doesn't give a right to bear any and all arms. So it seems like drawing arbitrary lines not explicitly in the Constitution is exactly what you want the court to do.
back when I played a lot of Battlefield 1942, I don't remember noticing any cheaters. But I do remember getting falsely accused of cheating on a regular basis.
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Got any good sources
I've recently been in a discussion with an educated and reasonable gentleman who mostly agrees with me on the philosophy of imaginary property. However, he made the claim that trademark law's purpose was not, as you claim, to protect the consumer, but instead to protect the producer. I pointed out that a quick search of "trademark law purpose" reveals a page worth of sources all stating the purpose is consumer protection. However, this reasonable gentlemen responded with "I do disagree about the original purpose (not any modern stated purpose) of trademark, but that's of minor consequence. Thanks for the research regardless".
Do you know of any sources you could recommend that might change this gentleman's mind? Perhaps a source that mentions the justifications the folks who actually proposed original trademark laws in the US used, since he seems to think that somehow modern sources are not talking about the original purpose of the law and instead talking about how the law is used today.
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An opt-out scenario would be if the phone automatically assumed it was allowed, but if you chose to go into some settings menu somewhere you could choose to turn that off.
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The guy you are replying to had a point to make, and he made it. You had a point to make, and you made it by appropriating his post and making very minor changes. Both of these were valid things to say and your right to free speech means you can make your point even though it is just "stealing" the words of someone else and adding "COW".
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"How did you get this answer for 5476 * 126?"
"I calculated it in my head."
"I don't believe you."
"OK, ask me to multiply 2 different numbers."
"3748 * 424"
"1589152"
"Oh, I guess you can do it. OK."
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Hell, what if someone out there just has a good memory, and remembers what I did? They'll have to be lobotomized, of course. I have a right to make them forget.
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In this case, if the buyers ever grew brain cells and realized there is no such thing as celebrity mojo, they would feel like the suckers they are.
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