With the other post made yesterday about the pressure being put on BT Broadband to do the same 'voluntary' blocks, it would seem that Europe doesn't even need a SOPA type bill to be passed before enforcing these blocks.
What a sad state of affairs for all concerned.
I've got a horrible feeling that this issue will snowball once a few countries accept it as the 'norm' and that a lot of legit domains, instead of taking down infringing content will be taken down completely at the cost of independant artists.
The more that this is pushed through the courts, the less outrageous it will appear, once precedents are set, they can be used to argue the next, then those two used for the next until eventually, it won't even be a case of going to the courts because the ISP's will eventually just roll over (or be told to) because of the thousands of examples that will be held as 'precedents'.
"Soon there won't BE an internet in the UK, because somewhere someone is offended at my little pony....."
Bloody right too, those My Little Pony doll's are obviously the work of devil worshiping, voodoo types who regularly sacrifice real ponies to their gods in an evil attempt to take over the world!
They must be stopped!! Where's the petition for me to sign to get the sites (poorly) blocked so that, although nearly everyone can see it, we can say we've successfully banned the little critters!
Sorry, didn't complete the point - reasonable cannot be measured, so as long as they have something in place, they get away scot-free and the person who develops the work around gets the slap on the wrists.
I think they agreed to go along with the court order.
I also think they've said (initially) that they won't block anything without one (not that I think for one moment that that's an iron clad, set in stone, 'til death do us part promise).
They've also probably got one of those 'take reasonable measures' chucked in before 'to stop your paying customers seeing the ----- site/domain'
Classic serial killer type letter to the authorities when one of two things have happened:
1) Person(s) who wrote this feels invincible
2) Person(s) who wrote this wants to be caught to stop them carrying out what they know is wrong.
I think saying that it's fine until someone goes too far could be construde as 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted'. It's almost reactive to the point of negligence, where surely there are some proactive things that can be done before a case becomes extreme?
From what I've read on this subject, most 'cyber-bullying' happens from kids to kids and as such should be easier to stop. Kids are not afforded the same rights as adults and as such can be restricted easier than adults.
"Despite the potential damage of cyber bullying, it is alarmingly common among adolescents and teens. According to Cyber bullying statistics from the i-SAFE foundation:
Over half of adolescents and teens have been bullied online, and about the same number have engaged in cyber bullying.
More than 1 in 3 young people have experienced cyberthreats online.
Over 25 percent of adolescents and teens have been bullied repeatedly through their cell phones or the Internet.
Well over half of young people do not tell their parents when cyber bullying occurs.
The Harford County Examiner reported similarly concerning cyber bullying statistics:
Around half of teens have been the victims of cyber bullying
Only 1 in 10 teens tells a parent if they have been a cyber bully victim
Fewer than 1 in 5 cyber bullying incidents are reported to law enforcement
1 in 10 adolescents or teens have had embarrassing or damaging pictures taken of themselves without their permission, often using cell phone cameras
About 1 in 5 teens have posted or sent sexually suggestive or nude pictures of themselves to others
Girls are somewhat more likely than boys to be involved in cyber bullying
The Cyberbullying Research Center also did a series of surveys that found these cyber bullying statistics:
Over 80 percent of teens use a cell phone regularly, making it the most popular form of technology and a common medium for cyber bullying
About half of young people have experienced some form of cyber bullying, and 10 to 20 percent experience it regularly
Mean, hurtful comments and spreading rumors are the most common type of cyber bullying
Girls are at least as likely as boys to be cyber bullies or their victims
Boys are more likely to be threatened by cyber bullies than girls
Cyber bullying affects all races
Cyber bullying victims are more likely to have low self esteem and to consider suicide"
Just because it's not reported to the authorities, does not mean that it's not happening.
"These days it’s all just passive-aggressive ad-hominem attacks—nothing you can really sink your teeth into. Their postings are nothing but noise, not worth the effort of reading, let alone a response.
Where are all the good trolls?"
That's inbreeding for you, the troll gene pool being flushed down the toilet.
I think TAC might have it right above, if the author promised, as part of the critique agreement, to include them as co-authors if their suggestions are taken on board, then this kind of makes sense - Still weird though
It appears Google does have a similar audit happening, from the WSJ Blog: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/11/11/tech-today-facebook-settlement-implications/
"The move comes as the Federal Trade Commission, which has yet to approve the settlement, and other government agencies and lawmakers demonstrate an increased willingness to hold companies more accountable for the personal information they own or share. Over the last several months the FTC has foisted privacy audits on Twitter and Google as well."
or in England, you pay absorbatant fuel prices (currently 60% ish of which is fuel duty and VAT) and an annual road tax...
They like to make sure we know when they're bending us over over
Just so I've got the gist of this:
This 3.4% piracy fee is the standard rate that public broadcasters pay for all content.
SABAM by no means owns all content that is broadcast but still wants the full 3.4% (possible fraudulent claim).
Even though, in theory, users are paying for the content, streaming/downloading the content will still be considered piracy, for which presumably the user and/or ISP would be sued.
Appears to be much like an oxymoron to me: you will pay for this content license which in no way grants you privilege to said content.
Just because he's said it's a solution doesn't means he said he wholeheartedly supports that solution.
To stop burglars, I'll plate my entire house with 50mm titanium.
It's a solution, but because I want to go into and use my house, it's not the solution I'm going to go for.
Of course blocking entire domains that host sites that link to infringing material will stop that infringing material from being available, but I think there must be a less overkill way of doing that.
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A sad state of affairs
What a sad state of affairs for all concerned.
I've got a horrible feeling that this issue will snowball once a few countries accept it as the 'norm' and that a lot of legit domains, instead of taking down infringing content will be taken down completely at the cost of independant artists.
The more that this is pushed through the courts, the less outrageous it will appear, once precedents are set, they can be used to argue the next, then those two used for the next until eventually, it won't even be a case of going to the courts because the ISP's will eventually just roll over (or be told to) because of the thousands of examples that will be held as 'precedents'.
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Bloody right too, those My Little Pony doll's are obviously the work of devil worshiping, voodoo types who regularly sacrifice real ponies to their gods in an evil attempt to take over the world!
They must be stopped!! Where's the petition for me to sign to get the sites (poorly) blocked so that, although nearly everyone can see it, we can say we've successfully banned the little critters!
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I also think they've said (initially) that they won't block anything without one (not that I think for one moment that that's an iron clad, set in stone, 'til death do us part promise).
They've also probably got one of those 'take reasonable measures' chucked in before 'to stop your paying customers seeing the ----- site/domain'
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http://www.abrupt.org/abruptlog/culture-jamming/your-pictures-make-me-want-to-kill-2198/
I' ll stop now
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jfavettasocialpsychology.blogspot.com/2007/10/hate.html
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http://www.westal.net/hp/mint/poems/unknown.htm
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1) Person(s) who wrote this feels invincible
2) Person(s) who wrote this wants to be caught to stop them carrying out what they know is wrong.
A nice example of method writing.
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On your second point, I can only agree. The 'rights' of criminals are impeded without affecting the 'rights' of Joe/Jane Public.
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From what I've read on this subject, most 'cyber-bullying' happens from kids to kids and as such should be easier to stop. Kids are not afforded the same rights as adults and as such can be restricted easier than adults.
From http://www.bullyingstatistics.org/content/cyber-bullying-statistics.html :
"Despite the potential damage of cyber bullying, it is alarmingly common among adolescents and teens. According to Cyber bullying statistics from the i-SAFE foundation:
Over half of adolescents and teens have been bullied online, and about the same number have engaged in cyber bullying.
More than 1 in 3 young people have experienced cyberthreats online.
Over 25 percent of adolescents and teens have been bullied repeatedly through their cell phones or the Internet.
Well over half of young people do not tell their parents when cyber bullying occurs.
The Harford County Examiner reported similarly concerning cyber bullying statistics:
Around half of teens have been the victims of cyber bullying
Only 1 in 10 teens tells a parent if they have been a cyber bully victim
Fewer than 1 in 5 cyber bullying incidents are reported to law enforcement
1 in 10 adolescents or teens have had embarrassing or damaging pictures taken of themselves without their permission, often using cell phone cameras
About 1 in 5 teens have posted or sent sexually suggestive or nude pictures of themselves to others
Girls are somewhat more likely than boys to be involved in cyber bullying
The Cyberbullying Research Center also did a series of surveys that found these cyber bullying statistics:
Over 80 percent of teens use a cell phone regularly, making it the most popular form of technology and a common medium for cyber bullying
About half of young people have experienced some form of cyber bullying, and 10 to 20 percent experience it regularly
Mean, hurtful comments and spreading rumors are the most common type of cyber bullying
Girls are at least as likely as boys to be cyber bullies or their victims
Boys are more likely to be threatened by cyber bullies than girls
Cyber bullying affects all races
Cyber bullying victims are more likely to have low self esteem and to consider suicide"
Just because it's not reported to the authorities, does not mean that it's not happening.
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Where are all the good trolls?"
That's inbreeding for you, the troll gene pool being flushed down the toilet.
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Because we have a choice, the grass is always greener on the other world...
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Re: Logic much?
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/11/11/tech-today-facebook-settlement-implications/
"The move comes as the Federal Trade Commission, which has yet to approve the settlement, and other government agencies and lawmakers demonstrate an increased willingness to hold companies more accountable for the personal information they own or share. Over the last several months the FTC has foisted privacy audits on Twitter and Google as well."
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Re: Of COURSE piracy would still be illegal!
They like to make sure we know when they're bending us over over
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Let me get this straight...
This 3.4% piracy fee is the standard rate that public broadcasters pay for all content.
SABAM by no means owns all content that is broadcast but still wants the full 3.4% (possible fraudulent claim).
Even though, in theory, users are paying for the content, streaming/downloading the content will still be considered piracy, for which presumably the user and/or ISP would be sued.
Appears to be much like an oxymoron to me: you will pay for this content license which in no way grants you privilege to said content.
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To stop burglars, I'll plate my entire house with 50mm titanium.
It's a solution, but because I want to go into and use my house, it's not the solution I'm going to go for.
Of course blocking entire domains that host sites that link to infringing material will stop that infringing material from being available, but I think there must be a less overkill way of doing that.
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