Yes, who is going to sit online for a couple of years talking to virtual lawyers to play out the prosecution phase? It's not like you use the same avatar in all games, or even the same game!
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Much as I sympathise with your friend's plight, I think saying that (aside from the Second Amendment being in the Constitution, not the Bill of Rights, I believe) thousands of people have 'died' because of the government is usual pro-Second Amendment agitating. If the public not having guns is so fatal, why is the US gun-death rate (in all states) so many times higher than anywhere else in the developed world with tougher gun laws?
Plus, Illinois-ers get the government they vote for. Welcome to how a lot of non-Tea Party people feel like in the Deep South.
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Please go back to farming your own food, weaving your own cloth, and milling and baking your own bread.
Seriously, what's this fetish with all that matters being loss of one type of job? You can't even blame it on outsourcing, as we're talking about stuff that's been happening for hundreds of years (although I guess it was happening even then, yay capitalism!).
I've worked in a mobile telephone support call centre which wasn't too bad, but the pay (and hours) sucked. However, it was a good learning experience, especially everytime I want to renew my phone contract.
However, I've also worked in a 'contact centre'. which was doing serious health promotion - no scripts, ability to talk for a long time, and the satisfaction of helping people to improve their health. So it does depend on the job - that was rather an outlier.
And where does *anyone* think that life has to stand still, that the exact same proportion of people have to be employed as bank tellers, and that they cannot get any other kind of employment.
Why not start moaning about the poor 'unemployed' stableboys that we had so many of 150 years ago?
The whole point of a 'growing' economy is that the pie gets bigger for everyone.
I think you have some weaknesses in your argument. The primary one is that people who are not employed by the mill are no longer employed anywhere. A secretary that isn't in work in the mill may get a job dealing with the increased orders, or elsewhere. A company may open more mills, so employing experienced engineers.
That leads to another weakness, the assumption that an old mechanical mill needs similar support to a more automated one. I'm pretty certain that you'll find a good number
In case you hadn't noticed, automation allowed for revolutions in farming practices, allowing most people not to have to work on the land for a result of subsistence-level food production. It also allows mass production, allowing many more people to have nice stuff, be it clothes, furniture or electronic doodads. And funnily enough, most of a vastly bigger population is still employed. We haven't even touched on how automation can support service industries... Your comment about call centres seems utterly irrelevant, and characterises much of your argument in the MAFIAA's "if you don't spend money on our crap it's lost from the economy" logical failure.
I'm pretty sure there have been plenty of times that they could have, and haven't. I'm pretty sure the last shutdown was forced by the Rethuglicans as well.
Regardless of if the Dems 'might' do this - the Republicans *have*. And if it works, it destroys what's left of your country's representative democracy and turns it into a banana republic. Because as sure as eggs is eggs, the Rethuglicans will use this every time they are in a legislative minority, and if the Dems try it back (and you would so deserve that) they will moan to high heaven about the 'unfairness' and 'undemocratic' nature of the tactic.
Frankly, unless you fix the insane nature of your political system (yearly votes on a budget that can close the government without hurting the politicians directly, the ability to gerrymander so easily, idiotic filibuster possibilities) you will constantly be subject to the tyranny of the insane.
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Plus, Illinois-ers get the government they vote for. Welcome to how a lot of non-Tea Party people feel like in the Deep South.
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Seriously, what's this fetish with all that matters being loss of one type of job? You can't even blame it on outsourcing, as we're talking about stuff that's been happening for hundreds of years (although I guess it was happening even then, yay capitalism!).
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However, I've also worked in a 'contact centre'. which was doing serious health promotion - no scripts, ability to talk for a long time, and the satisfaction of helping people to improve their health. So it does depend on the job - that was rather an outlier.
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(Also known as the Wheel of Time's "Daes Dae'mar, the Game of Houses, although it sounds more like a Klingon version!)
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Why not start moaning about the poor 'unemployed' stableboys that we had so many of 150 years ago?
The whole point of a 'growing' economy is that the pie gets bigger for everyone.
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That leads to another weakness, the assumption that an old mechanical mill needs similar support to a more automated one. I'm pretty certain that you'll find a good number
In case you hadn't noticed, automation allowed for revolutions in farming practices, allowing most people not to have to work on the land for a result of subsistence-level food production. It also allows mass production, allowing many more people to have nice stuff, be it clothes, furniture or electronic doodads. And funnily enough, most of a vastly bigger population is still employed. We haven't even touched on how automation can support service industries... Your comment about call centres seems utterly irrelevant, and characterises much of your argument in the MAFIAA's "if you don't spend money on our crap it's lost from the economy" logical failure.
I think Mike's argument stands fine.
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The same farmers that are mortally terrified of GMOs with even less evidence.
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To everything there is a time and a place.
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Regardless of if the Dems 'might' do this - the Republicans *have*. And if it works, it destroys what's left of your country's representative democracy and turns it into a banana republic. Because as sure as eggs is eggs, the Rethuglicans will use this every time they are in a legislative minority, and if the Dems try it back (and you would so deserve that) they will moan to high heaven about the 'unfairness' and 'undemocratic' nature of the tactic.
Frankly, unless you fix the insane nature of your political system (yearly votes on a budget that can close the government without hurting the politicians directly, the ability to gerrymander so easily, idiotic filibuster possibilities) you will constantly be subject to the tyranny of the insane.
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