The problem with that is it without some sort of reasonable restriction on the amount of the lawyers’ fees (and good luck figuring that out cause I have now idea how to do it) it would end up in the same place. With the lawyers’ fees being the majority of the money, it would just be tacked on top. (i.e. Instead of a hypothetical 1 million dollar settlement – 750k lawyers’ fees you would get the 1 million dollar settlement with 3 million lawyers’ fees) I fail to see how that would help the situation.
I like that idea it would also allow us to not duplicate submissions, we could just comment on the existing one with additional information if we have it. Or even just a note that we are interested. That might help stem the inbox flood a little.
"That's like saying that Louis Vuitton should use Canal street vendors as a marketing study"
That is not exactly on point as we are talking about an infinite digital good rather than a physical object, but as Mike has pointed out repeatedly on this site that is what some people are doing (i.e. Using the Pirate version as a marketing tool) and making lots of money doing it.
"All of these replies are saying that the vendor should just 'deal' with the existence of these things."
NO what they are saying is that the original creator should LEARN from the existence of these things and fill the need themselves. That most people, given the choice, and all other things being equal would CHOOSE to support the original creator rather than the knockoff as it were. As far as your Louis Vuitton analogy I suggest reading This Article or Maybe This One to better educate yourself
Popular Mechanics had a pretty good Write-Up of the debacle in Oregon back in January.
(Full Disclosure: I live in Oregon) Of course I thought it was a bad idea then too.
"Nothing dies harder than a bad idea."
Julia Cameron
Talk about creating artificial scarcity: "It's real popular, so you have to order now or there won't be any more."
From The Techdirt CwF+RtB Page "We're doing this a little differently this time -- we'll be taking orders for 2 weeks ONLY. Orders close at Midnight, Monday, November 16th. After that, we'll print and ship the t-shirts. So please get your order in soon so we can start planning. Orders should ship around the first week of December."
It is called a marketing decision. That is the point of the whole CwF+RtB experiment, is it not?
Make plaintiff pay ALL the legal bills (BOTH his and defendant's), until the judgment is made. Then, if the defendant loses the case, he reimburses the plaintiff. If he wins, well, tough luck.
I suppose it is a good idea in the case we are discussing but what about when the tables are turned? What if a small innovate company with little to no capital comes up with a really good idea, then 'Hugeandenormous Inc.' comes along and steals the idea. (Ostensibly what software patents are supposed to protect against.) Now I happen to agree that in most cases IP is just BS but the idea you are proposing would make it all but impossible (not that it is much better now) for the little guy to fight. Or did I miss something?
I still think the idea of Open Source code development is going to be essential to the success of e-voting, and I also believe that in our modern connected society electronic vote collection is going to be absolutely necessary. I have not previously considered the idea of “Paid” voting that was mentioned in the previous post, but some type of confirmation would be a good security feature to prevent data tampering. I guess that is why I like Open Source so much, you don't have to depend on a small group of developers to brainstorm the possibilities to test against.
"The "legitimate reasons" thing is the standard worn excuse used by torrent people (there are legit reasons to use P2P) and music downloaders (we are just testings, it's our backup, the dog ate my original copy). In the end, it's a slack response to an obviously attempt to get something for nothing."
"No. It is not, because most states regulate lockpick manufacture, sale, and use, regardless of the fact that they can be used for lawful means"
Really? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Lockpick
Click on the 'Shopping' link or go to the Shopping results, Oh look, Dozens of Lock Picks available on the Internet. Many under $25
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"Sorry, but fail.
I would suspect that the software in the cable modem is copyright. Decoding and or modifying it would be a DMCA quality violation. Distributing it, well... you know. "
Oh look they broke out the DMCA
The MPAA/RIAA's (etc) Favorite Toy
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What Part of 'Physical (Real) Property' ≠ 'Intellectual Property' (i.e. Digital Content) do people not understand? Most of the comments I have seen here that disagree with Mike have missed this point completely.
As Above:
"By George Bernard Shaw
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple, But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
Just out of curiosity where is the endpoint of your VPN? All the website should see is the client IP (in the case if a VPN the endpoint), not that there is a VPN feeding it. So if you are coming out of the US it should never know the difference.
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Re:
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FUD
But "wont someone think of the children"
{/Sarcasm}
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Re: Re: Re: Re: A thought
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Re: Re: Re: Re: stealing for profit
"Imitation is the sincerest flattery"
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ROFL
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(Full Disclosure: I live in Oregon) Of course I thought it was a bad idea then too.
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Re: A/C
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Getting There
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Mandatory Silly Comment
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Re: Re: Re: Can't you make more?
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BTW
w00t w00t!
Even with my "perpetually empty bank account".
Sorry Esahc
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Re: Can't you make more?
"We're doing this a little differently this time -- we'll be taking orders for 2 weeks ONLY. Orders close at Midnight, Monday, November 16th. After that, we'll print and ship the t-shirts. So please get your order in soon so we can start planning. Orders should ship around the first week of December."
It is called a marketing decision. That is the point of the whole CwF+RtB experiment, is it not?
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Encryption Anyone
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Re: Simple rule...
I suppose it is a good idea in the case we are discussing but what about when the tables are turned? What if a small innovate company with little to no capital comes up with a really good idea, then 'Hugeandenormous Inc.' comes along and steals the idea. (Ostensibly what software patents are supposed to protect against.) Now I happen to agree that in most cases IP is just BS but the idea you are proposing would make it all but impossible (not that it is much better now) for the little guy to fight. Or did I miss something?
On the post: Maryland Testing E-Voting System That Lets People Verify Their Votes Counted
Open Source Anyone?
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Bad Idea
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Really?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Lockpick
Click on the 'Shopping' link or go to the Shopping results, Oh look, Dozens of Lock Picks available on the Internet. Many under $25
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Oh look they broke out the DMCA
The MPAA/RIAA's (etc) Favorite Toy
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Just WOW!
On the post: Results From Our CwF+RtB Business Model Experiment
Re: Re:
Ditto! I am SO there.
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'Physical (Real) Property' ≠ 'Intellectual Property'
As Above:
"By George Bernard Shaw
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple, But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
Get a grip people
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VPN
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