Actually I am not twisting anything. This is about music videos not all videos. Which are not the featured material on Youtube, just like your comments are not featured material on Techdirt. They are just part of the content.
Sure the public will get their music videos elsewhere, but Youtube will still have plenty of content. The reason Youtube is so successful is because it is an aggregater and people love aggregaters. They don't want to have to go to ten different sites to find what they want. So if music videos were pulled then people would have to hunt to find the videos wherever they are now. This makes it less likely for someone new to find your music video and then get interested in your music and maybe buy it.
Amazon works not because it sells anything you can't get anywhere else it just makes it more convenient to find everything. Samething with Youtube.
LOL AC!!! But give Weird Harold a pat for being pretty right on this one. No "moral" law is ever used only to do what it says it intends.
The "law of unintended consequences" (also called the "law of unforeseen consequences") states that any purposeful action will produce some unintended consequences.
Simple fact - Youtube allows you to host your videos (commercial or personal) for free. They are providing you something at no cost to you. And the total cost for doing this is being paid for by Google. How can anyone think that they have the right to ask Google for money? If you want to charge for viewing your videos then set up a site and charge.
My thinking is that Google should say to the record companies you have three choices.
1. You can host your videos on OUR site and reap any benefits doing that brings to you and we will treat you like we treat all the other people who upload videos, we won't charge you... Or
2. You can pay us and we will promote your videos on OUR site and even help by providing ways for people watching your videos to then buy the product you are promoting.
Or you can take the third option
3. We will ban everything from you. Forever.
But in my mind there is absolutely no way Google should ever pay anybody because you choose to use their service.
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By your logic Techdirt should pay you for allowing you to promote your website. They provide this to you for free and make money off ads on their site. So they should give you money for adding comments with a URL to your site, right?
Why? Because I have Netflix and the Internet. Also there are very few movies that are worth buying anymore. And I most definitely do not want to have to pay a higher price to replace what I do have.
Side note I will say that Disney is doing something interesting with their combo movie packs which have Blu-Ray, DVD, and a disk you can play on a computer. Since any one that has kids would buy these this gives them a nice options.
It's not hand but what the hand is carrying that...
is causing people to consider alternatives. The bill. We call it the M$ tax. Every new version of software they come out with also comes with a bigger cost. And things that were included in the cost of the old software is now extra or has been moved to a more expensive version.
Example it use to be that when you bought XP Pro it counted as a terminal server client access license now they cost around $99 per. Another example is with Office programs that use to be included in the low end versions are now only in the upper versions.
I have been in the IT business for over 15 years and all along we have been selling MS products. But we are increasingly offering alternatives for more than one reason.
We are getting less from MS for selling their software and our clients want to spent less. Especially when the cost of the MS Office is almost as much as the computer.
I just had a client add a new employee his cost for the computer was $550.00 from Dell. He had to pay $99 for the XP downgrade, and then, because it's a new computer, he had to pay full price for Office which cost him $279.00.
Well the same computer with Ubuntu $450.00. So the M$ tax was $100+$99+$279. $478 just for the basics. And that $279 is actually a discounted price!
In economic times like now that who really wants to pay that?
Re: Re: Re: Walled gardens only reduce the value of the garden.
Yes but you will never ever get anything truly new. So innovation will never will come to your garden. Innovation comes from those people willing to try something that most people would think crazy. So those bugs and pests could create the next great Orchid.
I have bought at least 8 apps that I don't use for the iPhone.
The apps for the iPhone are generally so cheap that if I bought an app that is just not that good I don't feel it's that big of a deal. Any time you buy software you take the risk even if you try the trial version that it just will not be what you expect. With the iPhone so I spent $4 bucks to buy an app that sucks so what? Where most apps for windows or mac cost 5 times that it really isn't that big of a deal.
First you are a dumb ass. Most businesses would kill for a 45% markup or a 45-55% margin. The fact that they are use to that kind of a markup on an infinite good shows why they are not able to adapt. If a business (and I am in IT) could be disappointed in a markup of 15% then they have been ripping us off for way to long. If you need that kind of margin then cut costs.
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Re: Re: Youtube is a FREE video service.
Sure the public will get their music videos elsewhere, but Youtube will still have plenty of content. The reason Youtube is so successful is because it is an aggregater and people love aggregaters. They don't want to have to go to ten different sites to find what they want. So if music videos were pulled then people would have to hunt to find the videos wherever they are now. This makes it less likely for someone new to find your music video and then get interested in your music and maybe buy it.
Amazon works not because it sells anything you can't get anywhere else it just makes it more convenient to find everything. Samething with Youtube.
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The "law of unintended consequences" (also called the "law of unforeseen consequences") states that any purposeful action will produce some unintended consequences.
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Youtube is a FREE video service.
Simple fact - Youtube allows you to host your videos (commercial or personal) for free. They are providing you something at no cost to you. And the total cost for doing this is being paid for by Google. How can anyone think that they have the right to ask Google for money? If you want to charge for viewing your videos then set up a site and charge.
My thinking is that Google should say to the record companies you have three choices.
1. You can host your videos on OUR site and reap any benefits doing that brings to you and we will treat you like we treat all the other people who upload videos, we won't charge you... Or
2. You can pay us and we will promote your videos on OUR site and even help by providing ways for people watching your videos to then buy the product you are promoting.
Or you can take the third option
3. We will ban everything from you. Forever.
But in my mind there is absolutely no way Google should ever pay anybody because you choose to use their service.
Comment to Weird Harold - By your logic Techdirt should pay you for allowing you to promote your website. They provide this to you for free and make money off ads on their site. So they should give you money for adding comments with a URL to your site, right?
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I have bought just 1 DVD in the last 4 years.
Side note I will say that Disney is doing something interesting with their combo movie packs which have Blu-Ray, DVD, and a disk you can play on a computer. Since any one that has kids would buy these this gives them a nice options.
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He is just posting to get his website out there. Look at the link in his name.
He is as useless as his comments.
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Government should never ever take the place of raising your own children.
On the post: More Heavy Handed Actions By Microsoft Driving Companies To Open Source Software
It's not hand but what the hand is carrying that...
Example it use to be that when you bought XP Pro it counted as a terminal server client access license now they cost around $99 per. Another example is with Office programs that use to be included in the low end versions are now only in the upper versions.
I have been in the IT business for over 15 years and all along we have been selling MS products. But we are increasingly offering alternatives for more than one reason.
We are getting less from MS for selling their software and our clients want to spent less. Especially when the cost of the MS Office is almost as much as the computer.
I just had a client add a new employee his cost for the computer was $550.00 from Dell. He had to pay $99 for the XP downgrade, and then, because it's a new computer, he had to pay full price for Office which cost him $279.00.
Well the same computer with Ubuntu $450.00. So the M$ tax was $100+$99+$279. $478 just for the basics. And that $279 is actually a discounted price!
In economic times like now that who really wants to pay that?
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Re: Re: Re: Walled gardens only reduce the value of the garden.
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Walled gardens only reduce the value of the garden.
They will.
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Get with the program!!
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I have bought at least 8 apps that I don't use for the iPhone.
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Re: GOLDEN SURPLUS! NATIONAL COMPUTER LIQUIDATION
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And I get over 5 different varieties of phone books from the The Real Yellow pages and white pages plus The Yellow Book, and other imitators.
I do recycle them but I get over 50 pounds of phones about every 6-12 months.
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Government at work!
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