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I don't care what the intent is. Someone who isn't capable of or refuses to have an actual discussion isn't worth responding to (in and of themselves) and can be labeled a 'troll', and ignored with impunity.
More importantly, you can carry a baby on a plane and hold them in your lap, despite how dangerous it can be, because airlines don't want to lose those passengers, and pay their politicians well.
...because every time they try to do something sensible, they get shot down by Congress, et al. Quite a few of my family members work for, and have worked for, the FAA, and they've all been frustrated, time and time again, as their ability to both enforce existing regulations and to pass new regulations have been stymied.
...It is funny to hear so many people with no kids tell parents/kids what they should do yet few if any other parents agree with them...
It's funny to hear people make seemingly factual statements, without any idea of whether or not their statements have any passing resemblance to the truth.
Where exactly, DanVan, did you see a group of people without children tell a group of people with children what to do, who were in turn disagreed with by the group of people with children?
The majority of the people blocked here know as well. That's the whole 'media aspect' point of it.
Of course, your point (That the sit-in was to inform passers-by.) is moot, because it's not true. The point was to gain media attention, both now and with Birmingham. The people who were blocked from service were incidental.
If their parents were the kind of people who could teach children about gender roles and feminism, then you wouldn't need to say, 'These kids need to be taught...'.
The point I took from this wasn't that other people would change, but that Katie has a much wider range of support than she previously did, enabling her to better withstand the pressure of the assholes.
Wow, did anyone else notice that this guy claims to be a journalist?
Hey, if you're a journalist, then this is partially your fault. If you'd been doing your job, Wikileaks wouldn't be necessary in the first place. Next, where was the support for the site that you jerks were getting all of your material from? We wouldn't have to protest this way if you were (Again.) doing your job. Last, you're the perfect person to be injured by this. Why should you be paid when you weren't doing your job?
Marak, sorry, but nobody would do a DDoS in the open from their own computer. Actually, at least one moronic 16 year old did, and he was already arrested. A DDoS from your own computer is pretty much an invitation to get arrested.
I see that you don't understand how LOIC works. Here's a good place to start:
So that means you can't point anyone out, huh? Thought so.
There is no way to tell if the users are willingly part of the deal, or are not.
An equally likely theory is that everyone using LIOC is doing so willingly. Certainly, there isn't any evidence suggesting otherwise.
So the answer is the reverse: if people are willing members of a lioc, why do they not have the guts to reveal themselves and stand up for their convictions?
Yes, and those Iranian and Chinese folks who are getting real news out under a curtain of censorship should also rise up and reveal their names, right?
Is that you, Joe?
That a snot nosed 16 year old was found in control of one of these things should tell you all you need to know.
A 'snot nosed 16 year old'? Really? Wow. I guess the children and snot nosed black teens that were arrested in Birmingham were equally deserving of your contempt.
Really, I'm not sure what the age of a single user, or whether or not he's suffering from a sinus infection, has to do with the case in hand, where we have a very large number of people who are using LOIC to make a point, and to bring the media into this issue, just as Dr. King and his compatriots did in Birmingham.
As for "it wasn't fair in birmingham", nobody has shown where anyone's rights have been trampled here.
You obviously have no idea what you're speaking of, whatsoever.
This isn't "back of the bus use the other water fountain boy" stuff.
In your opinion, it's not. Obviously, millions of LOIC users disagree with you. Of course, many people didn't feel like civil rights were a big deal back then, either. Regardless of your personal view of the validity of the underlying issues behind this protest, the parallels remain the same.
If you feel that way, I pity your children for the home school education they are getting.
I already pity whatever institutions spat you out, since you have shown that not only are you unable to understand the underlying issues, but you lack the ability to Google the terms 'LOIC', 'civil disobedience', and 'unwilling'.
This is a small group of people dragging thousands of other people unwillingly...
I see that you don't understand how LOIC works. Tell you what, how about you take a minute and point out an unwilling LOIC user? Thanks.
Free speech is a two way street.
Yes, yes, it is, a fact that Joe Lieberman sincerely regrets.
MC, Visa, and Paypal all have the rights to refuse to do business with Assange. That is their right.
Sure, it is. And it was the business owner's right to refuse service to black folks in Birmingham.
The anon children may not understand that basic life lesson, but hopefully their grade 11 civics class will cover it so they can finally figure it out.
In the meantime, these 'children' have managed to make a wonderful statement about speech and expression. :)
Denying the rights of one to somehow promote the rights of others isn't exactly fair, now is it?
It wasn't fair in Birmingham, either, bringing to mind the classic cliché...
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It's funny to hear people make seemingly factual statements, without any idea of whether or not their statements have any passing resemblance to the truth.
Where exactly, DanVan, did you see a group of people without children tell a group of people with children what to do, who were in turn disagreed with by the group of people with children?
In other words, citation needed.
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Of course, your point (That the sit-in was to inform passers-by.) is moot, because it's not true. The point was to gain media attention, both now and with Birmingham. The people who were blocked from service were incidental.
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Hey, if you're a journalist, then this is partially your fault. If you'd been doing your job, Wikileaks wouldn't be necessary in the first place. Next, where was the support for the site that you jerks were getting all of your material from? We wouldn't have to protest this way if you were (Again.) doing your job. Last, you're the perfect person to be injured by this. Why should you be paid when you weren't doing your job?
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I see that you don't understand how LOIC works. Here's a good place to start:
http://gizmodo.com/5709630/what-is-loic
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So that means you can't point anyone out, huh? Thought so.
There is no way to tell if the users are willingly part of the deal, or are not.
An equally likely theory is that everyone using LIOC is doing so willingly. Certainly, there isn't any evidence suggesting otherwise.
So the answer is the reverse: if people are willing members of a lioc, why do they not have the guts to reveal themselves and stand up for their convictions?
Yes, and those Iranian and Chinese folks who are getting real news out under a curtain of censorship should also rise up and reveal their names, right?
Is that you, Joe?
That a snot nosed 16 year old was found in control of one of these things should tell you all you need to know.
A 'snot nosed 16 year old'? Really? Wow. I guess the children and snot nosed black teens that were arrested in Birmingham were equally deserving of your contempt.
Really, I'm not sure what the age of a single user, or whether or not he's suffering from a sinus infection, has to do with the case in hand, where we have a very large number of people who are using LOIC to make a point, and to bring the media into this issue, just as Dr. King and his compatriots did in Birmingham.
As for "it wasn't fair in birmingham", nobody has shown where anyone's rights have been trampled here.
You obviously have no idea what you're speaking of, whatsoever.
This isn't "back of the bus use the other water fountain boy" stuff.
In your opinion, it's not. Obviously, millions of LOIC users disagree with you. Of course, many people didn't feel like civil rights were a big deal back then, either. Regardless of your personal view of the validity of the underlying issues behind this protest, the parallels remain the same.
If you feel that way, I pity your children for the home school education they are getting.
I already pity whatever institutions spat you out, since you have shown that not only are you unable to understand the underlying issues, but you lack the ability to Google the terms 'LOIC', 'civil disobedience', and 'unwilling'.
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I see that you don't understand how LOIC works. Tell you what, how about you take a minute and point out an unwilling LOIC user? Thanks.
Free speech is a two way street.
Yes, yes, it is, a fact that Joe Lieberman sincerely regrets.
MC, Visa, and Paypal all have the rights to refuse to do business with Assange. That is their right.
Sure, it is. And it was the business owner's right to refuse service to black folks in Birmingham.
The anon children may not understand that basic life lesson, but hopefully their grade 11 civics class will cover it so they can finally figure it out.
In the meantime, these 'children' have managed to make a wonderful statement about speech and expression. :)
Denying the rights of one to somehow promote the rights of others isn't exactly fair, now is it?
It wasn't fair in Birmingham, either, bringing to mind the classic cliché...
Life isn't fair.
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