1) is discredited by my constant anti-right-action comments.
2) has anyone actually claimed trump did that to them?
And bleach injection, never happened. Moving on:
3) by fox I assume you mean Fox News. Which I’ve made clear I don’t actually watch. I read the fox services news feed that (more than) occasionally prints what their night shows hosts say. Same way CNN prints what it’s night show people say.
I can’t listen to any of their shows for more than 10 minutes or so.
News doesn’t change my stance. Protest within the bounds of the law. Or get fined/arrested.
4)
You’ll need to define “agree with”.
I agree with the right to protest within the boundaries of the law. What you chose to protest is not my concern. Not my business. Do so peacefully and legally.
So what. How’s that more a problem from those that BURNED the American flag over the past few years. Look, a flag swap. That’s vandalism, maybe theft?
a frickin' gallows was set up?
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A [fake] gallows. Outside. Public space. Free speech.
were QAnoners, members of hate-filled groups who oppose the Not White (Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc.),
they have just as much right to exist as you or I
or simply wanted an excuse to "own da libs".
…and… Idnc
All of them were MAGAts.
Whatever “MAGAts” means.
But yes, they were there to rally for Trump. You’d expect Trump supporters at a Trump support rally. A Trump support protest.
I didn’t respond because there’s nothing to respond to. Given the vast majority did nothing wrong at all. And of those that did, the vast majority of their numbers limited that to, oh, trespassing?
I get it. You don’t like their message. Nobody has the right to violate the law and all who do so deserve punishment. No matter who’s T-shirt you wear. No matter who’s banner you fly.
You can play up a dozen UNARMED people in a back corner breaking glass and getting shot.
Nothing that happened that day comes close to burning a federal courthouse with people in it.
Nobody went there to actually hang Mike pence. Except maybe some mental nutcase that should be on meds in a padded room.
We didn’t have fires all over the capital causing hundreds of thousands in arson costs. Or tens of millions of dollars of theft. Or attempts at willingly and knowingly burning people alive. We didn’t have targeted shootings and murders.
We had vandalism. Some petty theft. Carried out by a few criminal hoodlums in the crowd. And a pile of poo.
And a large amount of what may or may not be trespass.
And a pile of poo.
We have a few removed flags, not thousands of dollars of broken statues.
And a pile of poo.
Seriously, when you point finger at all the other violence and damage over the past few years I’ll have an ear for your complaints on a single one that ultimately doesn’t remotely measure in any legal category by comparison.
An objection is not the same as sending votes back to the states…
Well it would go to the House, which “represent”a the states.
doesn't mean it's actually legal.
Nor illegal.
And I fully agree with you on 4.
You talk about voting irregularities
NO, I generally don’t. Except when someone states there there were absolutely none.
I’m more concerned with the criminal acts of politicians in state and local governments. A concern that wouldn’t change the votes at all.
I don’t suggest Pence should have done anything different. I fully support his choice of action.
That doesn’t change the fact that he could have taken different actions. And if so I’d be arguing how he likely over stepped his role and how that should (and should regardless) be solidified.
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Amazon requires that you run the ebook through a DRM stripper first.
Incorrect. Amazon allows you to download any copy of any purchased or rented book. It is still linked to the device you use it on. But that file can be saved off line permanently.
Apple Books can be downloaded to your Mac or PC. Saved anywhere you want. Used on any supported hardware later. Just copy the file back and log in.
Kobo allows you to save files to you computer or directly on device. You can transfer files off the device to a computer and store them for later.
Adobe digital editions works on any reader that implements the API and can be stored indefinitely.
In every case files can be transfer off device elsewhere for storage and transferred back to the device for use later. Loosing online access doesn’t change access for a file you already have.
Prime music, Apple Music, YouTube Music and Spotify all allow downloading of tracks. Saved tracks are still accessible offline.
Uploaded tracks, eg Apple and Spotify, are still accessible if they are in the catalogue or not.
As for print publications, again you need a DRM stripper
You mistake the difference between permanent access on previously allowed devices and portability to other devices.
Video services like anything else requires yet another DRM removal helper program.
Again, no. Assuming services that allow download for use offline, your limited to certain players. Not (excluding rentals) a time limit.
The situation still sucks from a user point but the irony of 1984 isn’t a recurring concern today.
Which was…what?
I didn’t support the process the Trump republicans called for.
My concern has nothing to do with the actual votes or counts. Nor who won or lost.
whole fucking argument is built upon their deranged fantasies
My only argument here is people have the right to protest. Within the boundaries of the law.
ad nauseum
My only point on this is that the worst crime committed by the 99% was trespassing. Let’s punish the criminals and move on.
if you aren't supposed to be there you are fucking trespassing
Actually, you’re only partly correct.
To be trespassing you need to be trespassed.
Being there is not trespassing. Not until you are told to leave. By person or by sign.
Just a minor fyi.
Nuance
Quite possibly.
Especially in video games: where purchases can be $50 or more.
There definitely is an anti-digital backlash there.
So far, minor blips removed, other materials aren’t actually removed from the buyer. So if you have a copy offline you still have it, even if the online copy is gone.
The two largest ebook stores offer an ‘untouchable’ offline backup. Amazon makes it difficult though.
Amazon, Apple, and Google/YouTube all make it possible to have music backed up and playable offline.
In each case your limited to the drm authorisation etc for each device but overall it is doable.
And most video services make some sort of download/backup available.
The large outlier here is, actually, video games.
Even those where you have actually downloaded the full game still have online verification to play, etc.
Hell thatvhappens even with physical media in gaming.
The Vice President, president of the senate, IS a member of the senate.
That position is not limited to certain things.
It is limited from!
There is a difference.
When a pro temp is appointed, they loose some of those options as well. (Or more accurately are supposed to set down those abilities in seat).
The ability of the president to object to parts of the process has not been tested either way. Which is why there was/is a background call on codified rules more specific in word on the role of the PotS. From both parties, following Jan 6th.
The difference is the dog has no legal authority.
The capital police do. They are the law enforcement for the capital.
As such their direction as to where you may or may not go have the authority of the law.
… and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer.
… Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision;…
… and the house…
Where they debate the objections and the resolution of those objections. One thing the president of the senate has ability over is to himself, as a member of the senate, object. At least in theory.
Though he can not then participate in the debate.
The methodology for the process, though not specific, is there.
There are plenty of actual concerns to object on. Such as Governors modifying the state election process by proclamation without legislation.
That less than informed idiots chanted to overturn an election doesn’t change that there were legitimate concerns in the process, not the outcome as a whole.
Such as; if a governor can not legally change the methods for an election on their own, do you disregard the non-legally-defined votes? Or do you disregard the election and redo it within the boundaries of the existing law?
I’m not part of the voting machine camp. Not part of the stolen election and fraud camp.
I believe there were real things to look at while far-right republicans ran around screaming fraud and theft.
Where I wouldn’t disregard the election result, I would, and did, call for every governor who modified election process via the executive office be charged and tried in impeachment. That is a gross violation of powers.
And my personal thoughts are not important any way.
The question here is weather or not there is a right to peacefully protest. For those that do so peacefully, that is absolutely their right.
When a capital police officer opens the door and says, on camera, that you may stay here as long as you remain peaceful… that’s permission.
Those that broke windows elsewhere should be punished as the criminals they are.
Those, the vast majority, who did what they were told by law enforcement, were following lawful orders of the police.
You’ll find I have not defended those that broke the law anywhere. On this site or elsewhere. Nor have I demanded innocent protestors be punished.
I fully support those that broke the law on the 6th be punished.
As I fully support those that broke the law at BLM protests be punished.
But I will not condemn the whole of either for the actions of a few.
I’m talking only about formatting content, not the content itself.
Some do get it right. Flowing text with paragraphs. In line images.
It’s a place Apple and Zine releases usually do a good job. Amazon and Magzter, not so much.
For those with direct release digital publications, as above, some do a good job. most don’t.
Sadly we’re simply not there yet when it comes to readability.
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Your complaint was about people posting on social media
See, you jump to conclusions with zero evidence.
I didn’t complain in the slightest.
I factually pointed out that there is no need for the cover in today’s world for advertising. The discussion has moved from strangers on a train to strangers online.
There’s no opinion there at all. It’s a fact
I think that online discussion far surpasses the minimal number of eyes that would see a book cover.
How about scrolling up just one comment and look at what BernardoVerda said. That was who I was responding to!
I've never seen a digital book start an interesting conversation on the bus or in a coffee shop, when one person notices what the stranger next to them is reading.
Nor on the bus, nor in a park nor on the beach... nor in a used books shop, for that matter.
... I wonder why not?
… that would be because the discussion of digital intangibles is, by defaul, digital; in the online world.
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1) is discredited by my constant anti-right-action comments.
2) has anyone actually claimed trump did that to them?
And bleach injection, never happened. Moving on:
3) by fox I assume you mean Fox News. Which I’ve made clear I don’t actually watch. I read the fox services news feed that (more than) occasionally prints what their night shows hosts say. Same way CNN prints what it’s night show people say.
I can’t listen to any of their shows for more than 10 minutes or so.
News doesn’t change my stance. Protest within the bounds of the law. Or get fined/arrested.
4)
You’ll need to define “agree with”.
I agree with the right to protest within the boundaries of the law. What you chose to protest is not my concern. Not my business. Do so peacefully and legally.
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So what. How’s that more a problem from those that BURNED the American flag over the past few years. Look, a flag swap. That’s vandalism, maybe theft?
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A [fake] gallows. Outside. Public space. Free speech.
…and… Idnc
Whatever “MAGAts” means.
But yes, they were there to rally for Trump. You’d expect Trump supporters at a Trump support rally. A Trump support protest.
I didn’t respond because there’s nothing to respond to. Given the vast majority did nothing wrong at all. And of those that did, the vast majority of their numbers limited that to, oh, trespassing?
I get it. You don’t like their message. Nobody has the right to violate the law and all who do so deserve punishment. No matter who’s T-shirt you wear. No matter who’s banner you fly.
You can play up a dozen UNARMED people in a back corner breaking glass and getting shot.
Nothing that happened that day comes close to burning a federal courthouse with people in it.
Nobody went there to actually hang Mike pence. Except maybe some mental nutcase that should be on meds in a padded room.
We didn’t have fires all over the capital causing hundreds of thousands in arson costs. Or tens of millions of dollars of theft. Or attempts at willingly and knowingly burning people alive. We didn’t have targeted shootings and murders.
We had vandalism. Some petty theft. Carried out by a few criminal hoodlums in the crowd. And a pile of poo.
And a large amount of what may or may not be trespass.
And a pile of poo.
We have a few removed flags, not thousands of dollars of broken statues.
And a pile of poo.
Seriously, when you point finger at all the other violence and damage over the past few years I’ll have an ear for your complaints on a single one that ultimately doesn’t remotely measure in any legal category by comparison.
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I think you mistake more coverage to mean change.
The vinyl market has held strong in class at it’s percentage of purchases for quite some time.
Or VHS. I still buy a few brand new titles each year.
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Well it would go to the House, which “represent”a the states.
Nor illegal.
And I fully agree with you on 4.
NO, I generally don’t. Except when someone states there there were absolutely none.
I’m more concerned with the criminal acts of politicians in state and local governments. A concern that wouldn’t change the votes at all.
I don’t suggest Pence should have done anything different. I fully support his choice of action.
That doesn’t change the fact that he could have taken different actions. And if so I’d be arguing how he likely over stepped his role and how that should (and should regardless) be solidified.
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Re: Re: Re: Is this the start of a digital backlash
Incorrect. Amazon allows you to download any copy of any purchased or rented book. It is still linked to the device you use it on. But that file can be saved off line permanently.
Apple Books can be downloaded to your Mac or PC. Saved anywhere you want. Used on any supported hardware later. Just copy the file back and log in.
Kobo allows you to save files to you computer or directly on device. You can transfer files off the device to a computer and store them for later.
Adobe digital editions works on any reader that implements the API and can be stored indefinitely.
In every case files can be transfer off device elsewhere for storage and transferred back to the device for use later. Loosing online access doesn’t change access for a file you already have.
Prime music, Apple Music, YouTube Music and Spotify all allow downloading of tracks. Saved tracks are still accessible offline.
Uploaded tracks, eg Apple and Spotify, are still accessible if they are in the catalogue or not.
You mistake the difference between permanent access on previously allowed devices and portability to other devices.
Again, no. Assuming services that allow download for use offline, your limited to certain players. Not (excluding rentals) a time limit.
The situation still sucks from a user point but the irony of 1984 isn’t a recurring concern today.
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Which was…what?
I didn’t support the process the Trump republicans called for.
My concern has nothing to do with the actual votes or counts. Nor who won or lost.
My only argument here is people have the right to protest. Within the boundaries of the law.
My only point on this is that the worst crime committed by the 99% was trespassing. Let’s punish the criminals and move on.
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Actually, you’re only partly correct.
To be trespassing you need to be trespassed.
Being there is not trespassing. Not until you are told to leave. By person or by sign.
Just a minor fyi.
Nuance
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You again place me in association with people I do not know.
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Yep. Exactly.
Everyone has the right to their own opinions about anything.
We live in a country where the vast majority believe in some dude or dudette floating around in the sky.
Personally I think the fraud conspiracy takes away from the actual illegal acts that dis occur!
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And I’ll be clear:
I don’t care what Schiff‘s opinion on the matter is. There is no legal block on the PotS doing so.
Unless congress sets a rule one way or the other it remains an open issue.
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Re: Is this the start of a digital backlash
Quite possibly.
Especially in video games: where purchases can be $50 or more.
There definitely is an anti-digital backlash there.
So far, minor blips removed, other materials aren’t actually removed from the buyer. So if you have a copy offline you still have it, even if the online copy is gone.
The two largest ebook stores offer an ‘untouchable’ offline backup. Amazon makes it difficult though.
Amazon, Apple, and Google/YouTube all make it possible to have music backed up and playable offline.
In each case your limited to the drm authorisation etc for each device but overall it is doable.
And most video services make some sort of download/backup available.
The large outlier here is, actually, video games.
Even those where you have actually downloaded the full game still have online verification to play, etc.
Hell thatvhappens even with physical media in gaming.
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Saying the wrong statement over and over doesn’t make it true.
https://www.kget.com/news/politics/what-if-path-was-uncertain-if-pence-objected-to-bidens-win/
Broo kings and cspan both have their own breakdowns and come to the same conclusion: the PotS CAN object. What happens then is not codified anywhere.
Cornell has some postings that lean towards the senate having to debate weather or not the PotS can object.
Where thoughtco says the situation is so outside the process that it’s impossible to conclude what would happen.
Again, the Vice President is not limited by what he can do.
He is limited by what he can not do. And anything not excluded is in theory not barred.
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The Vice President, president of the senate, IS a member of the senate.
That position is not limited to certain things.
It is limited from!
There is a difference.
When a pro temp is appointed, they loose some of those options as well. (Or more accurately are supposed to set down those abilities in seat).
The ability of the president to object to parts of the process has not been tested either way. Which is why there was/is a background call on codified rules more specific in word on the role of the PotS. From both parties, following Jan 6th.
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Hundreds didn’t enter through broken windows.
They walked through an open door with police permission to do so.
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The difference is the dog has no legal authority.
The capital police do. They are the law enforcement for the capital.
As such their direction as to where you may or may not go have the authority of the law.
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I suggest you read it
… and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer.
… Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision;…
… and the house…
Where they debate the objections and the resolution of those objections. One thing the president of the senate has ability over is to himself, as a member of the senate, object. At least in theory.
Though he can not then participate in the debate.
The methodology for the process, though not specific, is there.
There are plenty of actual concerns to object on. Such as Governors modifying the state election process by proclamation without legislation.
That less than informed idiots chanted to overturn an election doesn’t change that there were legitimate concerns in the process, not the outcome as a whole.
Such as; if a governor can not legally change the methods for an election on their own, do you disregard the non-legally-defined votes? Or do you disregard the election and redo it within the boundaries of the existing law?
I’m not part of the voting machine camp. Not part of the stolen election and fraud camp.
I believe there were real things to look at while far-right republicans ran around screaming fraud and theft.
Where I wouldn’t disregard the election result, I would, and did, call for every governor who modified election process via the executive office be charged and tried in impeachment. That is a gross violation of powers.
And my personal thoughts are not important any way.
The question here is weather or not there is a right to peacefully protest. For those that do so peacefully, that is absolutely their right.
When a capital police officer opens the door and says, on camera, that you may stay here as long as you remain peaceful… that’s permission.
Those that broke windows elsewhere should be punished as the criminals they are.
Those, the vast majority, who did what they were told by law enforcement, were following lawful orders of the police.
You’ll find I have not defended those that broke the law anywhere. On this site or elsewhere. Nor have I demanded innocent protestors be punished.
I fully support those that broke the law on the 6th be punished.
As I fully support those that broke the law at BLM protests be punished.
But I will not condemn the whole of either for the actions of a few.
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… NYT, USAToday.
I’m talking only about formatting content, not the content itself.
Some do get it right. Flowing text with paragraphs. In line images.
It’s a place Apple and Zine releases usually do a good job. Amazon and Magzter, not so much.
For those with direct release digital publications, as above, some do a good job. most don’t.
Sadly we’re simply not there yet when it comes to readability.
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That escalated… quickly!
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Yes, there have been arrests. How many arrests, and how many wanted for arrest, vs the total number of attendance?
See? That’s how you separate facts from prime time talking heads on any station.
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See, you jump to conclusions with zero evidence.
I didn’t complain in the slightest.
I factually pointed out that there is no need for the cover in today’s world for advertising. The discussion has moved from strangers on a train to strangers online.
There’s no opinion there at all. It’s a fact
I think that online discussion far surpasses the minimal number of eyes that would see a book cover.
How about scrolling up just one comment and look at what BernardoVerda said. That was who I was responding to!
… that would be because the discussion of digital intangibles is, by defaul, digital; in the online world.
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