When they try to run a nation in the interests of its rich people they succeed beyond their wildest dreams. It sucks to be the poor people in such countries, though.
This is happening in the UK right now; they're running it in the interests of people who don't even flippin' well live here! [Seethe]
People who refuse to pick a side are automatically suspect on both sides of the aisle. When I posted on G+ the right wingers used to bash me for not walking in lockstep with them. The lefties would then smack me around for not walking in lockstep with them. Partisans don't like us to think for ourselves.
Good one. The New World Order theory doesn't require people to walk in lockstep, just to agree enough to get stuff done. They all bicker with each other over things like stories decrying murder by bonesaw, etc., but try to run a nation in the interest of its people and see what happens.
People have died at Amazon factories having effectively worked themselves to death. We also have cases of people living in their cars so they can work at Amazon.
I'm not a mad fan of either man but let's not pretend one is more moral or better than the other. They are both awful people.
"Rugged individualists" is a misnomer since they tend to be reliant on others -- which they will never admit.
One of them once told me he was a self-made man, completely self-reliant. I asked him what he did for a living. He's a truck driver. The list of people he relies on to get his job done is long even if he was self-employed. He's not.
The whole thing is a scam dreamed up by rich jerks to blame the poor for their poverty.
Bubbles are about clinging to unrealities. Bubbles don't pop, they are dismantled.
Eh, if you say so. The fact is, in my lived experience as a TD reader and commenter, any attempt to cling to unreality tends to get dismantled by other commenters pretty quickly. In that scenario, the bubble persists but can't grow much because you are either led by stone cold logic and facts or by warm, fuzzy feelings and the principle of the thing.
If we accept that as true, any bubble that does form is confined to the subgroup of people who subscribe to a particular set of beliefs, e.g. "Trump is teh awesome, snowflakes!" or "Copyright is the only way a creative person can make a living." Such people have their statements countered with factual statements and links to evidence, forcing anyone in those bubbles to deny that the statements and evidence are true or to change the subject and rant, as they usually do. What I'm saying is, TD readers as an audience don't end up in one big TD bubble because we argue too much to allow that to happen. Heck, I've argued with each of the main article authors at one time or another, and with the respected regular commenters when I thought they were wrong.
We all do. If you can find one issue in which we all (or even the majority) walk in lockstep refusing to accept reality I'd like to see it. I haven't seen it yet.
Perfect example of how the use of labels is not good. Use labels too much and you find that you "know" things that are meaningless or completely untrue.
They become untrue when misused or when the Overton Window shifts. It's the misuse that annoys me. I've given up trying to correct people -- even the farthest of Far Right types are trying to present themselves as centrist.
Now "Centrist" is a dirty word on the equally clueless partisan Far Left.
Get the partisanship out of the equation, then we can discuss the matter like adults. Thankfully, there are plenty of adults here.
I hope you do not believe that either you, Mr. Masnick or the Techdirt community itself is invulnerable to existing in a bubble. It doesn't work like that. These days you avoid it by identifying the possible bubbles and denying them.
There's a varied bunch of people posting here, bringing a wide range of opinions with them from hard right to full-on socialist, with every kind of permutation in between. I came in as a front-end website designer and developer with basic skills looking for information on SOPA. I've been here ever since. I'm basically conservative, Bull Moose edition.
Thad, Uriel, and Stephen are progressive, btr and SDM are more right wing. Each of us is pretty vocal about what we believe in and why, therefore any bubble that ever forms here will pop pretty quickly.
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None. He's gay.
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Care to elaborate?
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When they try to run a nation in the interests of its rich people they succeed beyond their wildest dreams. It sucks to be the poor people in such countries, though.
This is happening in the UK right now; they're running it in the interests of people who don't even flippin' well live here! [Seethe]
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That's what happens when you kill off unions. We need them to fight for our rights.
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It's true. https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police/policing-profit-alive-and-well-south- carolina
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People who refuse to pick a side are automatically suspect on both sides of the aisle. When I posted on G+ the right wingers used to bash me for not walking in lockstep with them. The lefties would then smack me around for not walking in lockstep with them. Partisans don't like us to think for ourselves.
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One gets peed on. We all lose.
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I daresay they do it all the time. MBS was caught.
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Good one. The New World Order theory doesn't require people to walk in lockstep, just to agree enough to get stuff done. They all bicker with each other over things like stories decrying murder by bonesaw, etc., but try to run a nation in the interest of its people and see what happens.
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People have died at Amazon factories having effectively worked themselves to death. We also have cases of people living in their cars so they can work at Amazon.
I'm not a mad fan of either man but let's not pretend one is more moral or better than the other. They are both awful people.
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Thank you, Senator Wyden. Again
I really appreciate Senator Wyden going after this. It takes guts to do what he does, and I appreciate it.
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Karl, can you fix the headline, please? How about:
"After Years Of Scandal And Incompetence, US Telco Frontier Considers Filing For Bankruptcy"
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"Rugged individualists" is a misnomer since they tend to be reliant on others -- which they will never admit.
One of them once told me he was a self-made man, completely self-reliant. I asked him what he did for a living. He's a truck driver. The list of people he relies on to get his job done is long even if he was self-employed. He's not.
The whole thing is a scam dreamed up by rich jerks to blame the poor for their poverty.
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I miss the days when politicians wanted to be on Spitting Image as a sign that they'd arrived. https://i1.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/spitting-image-2338.jpg
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Eh, if you say so. The fact is, in my lived experience as a TD reader and commenter, any attempt to cling to unreality tends to get dismantled by other commenters pretty quickly. In that scenario, the bubble persists but can't grow much because you are either led by stone cold logic and facts or by warm, fuzzy feelings and the principle of the thing.
If we accept that as true, any bubble that does form is confined to the subgroup of people who subscribe to a particular set of beliefs, e.g. "Trump is teh awesome, snowflakes!" or "Copyright is the only way a creative person can make a living." Such people have their statements countered with factual statements and links to evidence, forcing anyone in those bubbles to deny that the statements and evidence are true or to change the subject and rant, as they usually do. What I'm saying is, TD readers as an audience don't end up in one big TD bubble because we argue too much to allow that to happen. Heck, I've argued with each of the main article authors at one time or another, and with the respected regular commenters when I thought they were wrong.
We all do. If you can find one issue in which we all (or even the majority) walk in lockstep refusing to accept reality I'd like to see it. I haven't seen it yet.
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They become untrue when misused or when the Overton Window shifts. It's the misuse that annoys me. I've given up trying to correct people -- even the farthest of Far Right types are trying to present themselves as centrist.
Now "Centrist" is a dirty word on the equally clueless partisan Far Left.
Get the partisanship out of the equation, then we can discuss the matter like adults. Thankfully, there are plenty of adults here.
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Yes he would.
I've noticed that anyone who's not on their knees worshipping Trump is a flaming leftist these days, as is anyone with an ounce of compassion.
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Or been called crazy by a celebrity columnist.
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Yes they were. I remember that. It was the only plane in the air above America that day.
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There's a varied bunch of people posting here, bringing a wide range of opinions with them from hard right to full-on socialist, with every kind of permutation in between. I came in as a front-end website designer and developer with basic skills looking for information on SOPA. I've been here ever since. I'm basically conservative, Bull Moose edition.
Thad, Uriel, and Stephen are progressive, btr and SDM are more right wing. Each of us is pretty vocal about what we believe in and why, therefore any bubble that ever forms here will pop pretty quickly.
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