I have one, spent that morning tinkering with it, and for me it was completely unusable. I mean the pedals would physically spin, but you couldn't load the OS or log in. So for me at least, you not only couldn't access classes, you couldn't change resistance levels. You just got stuck staring at the circular loading wheel.
There was one brief moment where it tried to log me in, but it couldn't authenticate.
Re: Re: Re: It's rational people not stampeded by MINOR virus.
also, for whatever reason, people really like to fixate exclusively on deaths, and ignore the fact that this disease is going to cause disability (perhaps permanent) for millions of people.
I think often about Verizon's largely successful efforts to modify wireless user packets to track users around the internet, and how they saw really no serious problem with implementing such a system--not only without telling the public it was being implemented, but without providing a working opt-out mechanism.
Even now, after the FCC fine, I believe some variant of that same system remains in play across the AOL/Yahoo ad ecosystem, just with a slightly more verbose amount of fine print, and an opt-out tool that actually works.
And wow, I'd also forgotten about NebuAd. So many scandals, so few substantive reforms or meaningful solutions in the last decade.
Privacy is one of those subjects where I genuinely understand, and agree with, the concerns of all involved.
As Ernesto and a few others noted, trust has simply been demolished after years of bad faith arguments, trojan horse bills, and outright falsehoods from the private sector. Compounded by a government that has routinely violated privacy itself, turned a blind eye to privacy violations by others, or shown it's too corrupt or incompetent to tackle the mammoth task before it.
So I get the skepticism...both from those worried that Congress lacks the competence to craft meaningful legislation without causing even more harm...to those who don't want the worst players having an outsized impact in the crafting of said legislation.
In comes a crisis where good faith consensus is needed, and it's seemingly impossible to achieve. I simply have no idea how you even begin restoring that trust. Especially at a time when so many other important problems are going to take priority and resources away from quality privacy proposals.
I agree with much of this. So much of this seems to stem from the fact that smaller stakeholders, much like consumers, frequently aren't given a seat at the table because they're incapable of buying influence.
Also as Mike hints at, there's a lot of bad actors (see: AT&T) that are often atrocious on privacy (see: location data scandals) that are now pushing for flimsy federal laws designed to LOOK like they're addressing the problem(s), but are actually focused on pre-empting tougher state or federal consensus-driven solutions.
So yeah, with AT&T having outsized influence in Congress, calls for "one set of strong, sensible, and straightforward privacy protections" usually ends with AT&T lawyers writing half the legislation, especially in this particular Congress.
I think some of the disconnect here is driven by the fact that elecom providers, historically, are fused tightly to the law enforcement and intelligence gathering communities. It is, after all, fairly hard at this point to see where AT&T begins and the NSA ends, given AT&T has built dedicated systems geared toward surveillance data collection and have even acted as intelligence agencies time and again.
I'm curious if telecoms almost being PART of government accounts for the fact they are often above reproach by many in DC? These location data scandals were monumentally terrible, with location data access abused by everyone. Including law enforcement, folks pretending to be law enforcement, and stalkers.
Verizon literally thought it was a good idea to modify wireless user data packets to track users around the internet without telling them (the "zombie cookie scandal"), yet the outrage from DC policymakers is always muted in contrast to the coverage we've seen regarding big tech.
Folks like Hawley, for example, can go on at great length about smaller scale privacy scandals out of Silicon Valley, yet very rarely (quite possibly never?) criticizes "big telecom."
Seems myopic and dangerous to not have a broader, bird's eye view as we debate what privacy laws should look like.
But I'm curious: what are the other reasons for the disconnect here?
Sprint's eminent doom is overplayed for effect by those pushing this shitty deal. They've still got debt problems but have dramatically improved their finances in recent quarters. They're also owned by one of the wealthiest companies in Japan.
And there's a universe of ways to fix Sprint that don't involve merging with a direct competitor in a deal every single economic predictive metric suggests will be terrible. It could merge with Comcast. Or Charter. Or Dish in a deal that doesn't integrate T-Mobile. Or hire better executives.
I have no idea why this guy is so personally upset that I simply pointed to factual reality and the 40 year history of deals like this being terrible for consumers, competitors, and the market.
I don't know, I think pointing out they're both stupid (which I did) works. Even if you think a law is stupid, being even DUMBER (and lying about it) isn't any kind of solution to your complaint.
Re: That Study Still Doesn't Say What You Think It Does...
Well shit, you're right. I've misinterpreted that study as being directly applicable to news comments specifically and will stop over-stating its import since it was talking about Facebook comments specifically. Thank you, news story commenter helpfully pointing out my error in a news story comment section. :)
The relevant part, I thought, was the part where they studied seventy different political posts and found a 17% decrease in "incivility" and a 15% spike in people using evidence in their posts -- simply by having somebody from the outlet show up.
There's certainly plenty of good think tanks. And Copia is an effort to bring a little bit of sanity and more honest discourse to a think tank segment that has, over the years, simply mutated into a way for giant legacy companies to farm bogus science justifying anti-competitive (or anti-environment, etc.) positions.
I'm not saying all think tanks are bad. I will say a huge portion of them are total shit, though.
This "bias" claim makes no coherent sense. Comcast is rated, consistently, as one of the worst companies in ANY INDUSTRY IN AMERICA when it comes to customer service and support. Worse than the IRS.
Polls indicate the majority of consumers do support net neutrality protections. And surveys indicate they do realize Comcast is an anti-competitive ass. So I really have no idea what you're on about here.
Interesting you'd dismiss an entire post because I stated an obvious fact at the end though.
Yeah the fact they didn't reach out directly to FTTF suggests they may have just been bullshitting news outlets to avoid being singled out as apathetic (if not outright hostile) to the concept. We'll see Wednesday, I guess.
He's clearly trying to make inroads in flyover country for one reason or another, possibly political. But so few people can actually tell you what net neutrality even is, I doubt it's much of an impediment to whatever his ambitions are.
And it's not like they admit they oppose net neutrality. Most of the time they claim to support it while actively undermining it, something people not in tune to the recent "Free Basics" shit show over in India probably aren't aware of.
According to the American Customer Satisfaction Index, the IRS has had consistently better customer satisfaction ratings that Charter for much of the last decade, which should tell you pretty much everything you need to know about the cable industry.
This narrative that "blind deregulation magically fixes everything" (including established predatory monopolies) is already shallow and simplistic to begin with, but when people try to apply it to the telecom sector it's just a red flag that they don't know how this particular sector works, or its history.
Yes it's clear we don't currently believe in accountability. Pai does clearly have grander political ambitions, and with both privacy and net neutrality not being as partisan as he thinks in his own head, it's possible accountability lies in wait for him somewhere down the road.
"The guy that killed net neutrality" -- when net neutrality has pretty broad, bipartisan support -- isn't going to be a good look longer term.
"What does Net Neutrality have to do with the cable monopolies?"
Cable's growing monopoly over the last mile means less competition. Less competition means more attempts to creatively abuse this lack of competition, which is what net neutrality infractions are.
"Those are driven by local governments and deals between cable companies, none of this will change."
Most local franchises are now state level franchises. And blindly deregulating a captive, uncompetitive market doesn't magically fix any of this. Sensible, reasonable government policies to improve competition do. But because the local, state, and federal government is blindly loyal to campaign contributions to a grotesque degree, you're right in the fact that change doesn't happen until other problems are fixed.
"It seems to be the case that Title II creates more monopolies by making it harder for new ISPs to compete with established ISPs who already have the market locked down."
Says who? I've written about this industry for 20 years and see nothing to support that.
"Since they all must offer the exact same service under Net Neutrality where is the competition besides speed/price?"
Who says they have to offer the exact same service? This also isn't supported. There's a million ways to compete when the playing field is even.
"New ISPs will not have this luxury and must develop their infrastructure under far more strict rules."
The rules don't restrict upstart ISPs in the slightest. And as we note about three times a week, the idea that Title II stifled investment is an unsupported canard. That's a load of nonsense being pushed by telecom sector folks that want zero accountability as they abuse captive markets.
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I have one, spent that morning tinkering with it, and for me it was completely unusable. I mean the pedals would physically spin, but you couldn't load the OS or log in. So for me at least, you not only couldn't access classes, you couldn't change resistance levels. You just got stuck staring at the circular loading wheel.
There was one brief moment where it tried to log me in, but it couldn't authenticate.
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Re: but let's ignore the real criminals
lol, of course not.
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Re: Re: Re: It's rational people not stampeded by MINOR virus.
also, for whatever reason, people really like to fixate exclusively on deaths, and ignore the fact that this disease is going to cause disability (perhaps permanent) for millions of people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/health/covid-long-term-symptoms.html
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NebuAD
I think often about Verizon's largely successful efforts to modify wireless user packets to track users around the internet, and how they saw really no serious problem with implementing such a system--not only without telling the public it was being implemented, but without providing a working opt-out mechanism.
Even now, after the FCC fine, I believe some variant of that same system remains in play across the AOL/Yahoo ad ecosystem, just with a slightly more verbose amount of fine print, and an opt-out tool that actually works.
And wow, I'd also forgotten about NebuAd. So many scandals, so few substantive reforms or meaningful solutions in the last decade.
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Trust
Privacy is one of those subjects where I genuinely understand, and agree with, the concerns of all involved.
As Ernesto and a few others noted, trust has simply been demolished after years of bad faith arguments, trojan horse bills, and outright falsehoods from the private sector. Compounded by a government that has routinely violated privacy itself, turned a blind eye to privacy violations by others, or shown it's too corrupt or incompetent to tackle the mammoth task before it.
So I get the skepticism...both from those worried that Congress lacks the competence to craft meaningful legislation without causing even more harm...to those who don't want the worst players having an outsized impact in the crafting of said legislation.
In comes a crisis where good faith consensus is needed, and it's seemingly impossible to achieve. I simply have no idea how you even begin restoring that trust. Especially at a time when so many other important problems are going to take priority and resources away from quality privacy proposals.
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Stakeholders..
I agree with much of this. So much of this seems to stem from the fact that smaller stakeholders, much like consumers, frequently aren't given a seat at the table because they're incapable of buying influence.
Also as Mike hints at, there's a lot of bad actors (see: AT&T) that are often atrocious on privacy (see: location data scandals) that are now pushing for flimsy federal laws designed to LOOK like they're addressing the problem(s), but are actually focused on pre-empting tougher state or federal consensus-driven solutions.
So yeah, with AT&T having outsized influence in Congress, calls for "one set of strong, sensible, and straightforward privacy protections" usually ends with AT&T lawyers writing half the legislation, especially in this particular Congress.
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I'm genuinely curious...
I think some of the disconnect here is driven by the fact that elecom providers, historically, are fused tightly to the law enforcement and intelligence gathering communities. It is, after all, fairly hard at this point to see where AT&T begins and the NSA ends, given AT&T has built dedicated systems geared toward surveillance data collection and have even acted as intelligence agencies time and again.
I'm curious if telecoms almost being PART of government accounts for the fact they are often above reproach by many in DC? These location data scandals were monumentally terrible, with location data access abused by everyone. Including law enforcement, folks pretending to be law enforcement, and stalkers.
Verizon literally thought it was a good idea to modify wireless user data packets to track users around the internet without telling them (the "zombie cookie scandal"), yet the outrage from DC policymakers is always muted in contrast to the coverage we've seen regarding big tech.
Folks like Hawley, for example, can go on at great length about smaller scale privacy scandals out of Silicon Valley, yet very rarely (quite possibly never?) criticizes "big telecom."
Seems myopic and dangerous to not have a broader, bird's eye view as we debate what privacy laws should look like.
But I'm curious: what are the other reasons for the disconnect here?
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Re: Question for Karl Bode:
Just a brain fart on my part. Meant to do, then forgot. Added, thanks!
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Re: Re:
Thanks for beating me to the punch.
Sprint's eminent doom is overplayed for effect by those pushing this shitty deal. They've still got debt problems but have dramatically improved their finances in recent quarters. They're also owned by one of the wealthiest companies in Japan.
And there's a universe of ways to fix Sprint that don't involve merging with a direct competitor in a deal every single economic predictive metric suggests will be terrible. It could merge with Comcast. Or Charter. Or Dish in a deal that doesn't integrate T-Mobile. Or hire better executives.
I have no idea why this guy is so personally upset that I simply pointed to factual reality and the 40 year history of deals like this being terrible for consumers, competitors, and the market.
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Re: That Study Still Doesn't Say What You Think It Does...
The relevant part, I thought, was the part where they studied seventy different political posts and found a 17% decrease in "incivility" and a 15% spike in people using evidence in their posts -- simply by having somebody from the outlet show up.
But I appreciate the correction, thanks.
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I'm not saying all think tanks are bad. I will say a huge portion of them are total shit, though.
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Re:
Polls indicate the majority of consumers do support net neutrality protections. And surveys indicate they do realize Comcast is an anti-competitive ass. So I really have no idea what you're on about here.
Interesting you'd dismiss an entire post because I stated an obvious fact at the end though.
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And it's not like they admit they oppose net neutrality. Most of the time they claim to support it while actively undermining it, something people not in tune to the recent "Free Basics" shit show over in India probably aren't aware of.
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Re: Re: "the industry makes $21 million annually in rental fees" -- From 100 or so million subscribers, you're hot on 20 CENTS a year?
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Re: Or what?
"The guy that killed net neutrality" -- when net neutrality has pretty broad, bipartisan support -- isn't going to be a good look longer term.
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Re: What monopolies?
Cable's growing monopoly over the last mile means less competition. Less competition means more attempts to creatively abuse this lack of competition, which is what net neutrality infractions are.
"Those are driven by local governments and deals between cable companies, none of this will change."
Most local franchises are now state level franchises. And blindly deregulating a captive, uncompetitive market doesn't magically fix any of this. Sensible, reasonable government policies to improve competition do. But because the local, state, and federal government is blindly loyal to campaign contributions to a grotesque degree, you're right in the fact that change doesn't happen until other problems are fixed.
"It seems to be the case that Title II creates more monopolies by making it harder for new ISPs to compete with established ISPs who already have the market locked down."
Says who? I've written about this industry for 20 years and see nothing to support that.
"Since they all must offer the exact same service under Net Neutrality where is the competition besides speed/price?"
Who says they have to offer the exact same service? This also isn't supported. There's a million ways to compete when the playing field is even.
"New ISPs will not have this luxury and must develop their infrastructure under far more strict rules."
The rules don't restrict upstart ISPs in the slightest. And as we note about three times a week, the idea that Title II stifled investment is an unsupported canard. That's a load of nonsense being pushed by telecom sector folks that want zero accountability as they abuse captive markets.
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