The people defending this can't understand the simple fact that one reason some people are so upset isn't just the fact that this information is collected. It is the fact that eventually it will be abused.
Whether is is abused by some guy that wants to follow his ex or a prosecutor chasing someone who isn't really guilty it eventually will be abused, just as all other government overreaches have always been abused.
It occurs to me that someone somewhere, well in DC, must really be scared of people forming pro fourth amendment opinions of this subject if they are willing to pay someone to argue for this long on a web site.
No it's the "I am not a criminal because you haven't arrested and convicted me defense."
It's a funny thing about our rights in the USA. There is no such thing as being guilty without a trial, even when the spies think we are guilty.
Congress can stop this cold. All they have to do is remove funding from this part of the NSA. No money, no contractors, no contractors, nobody to analyze data and of course no new equipment.
I simply do not understand the whole if you aren't guilty then you have nothing to fear attitude. With more federal regulations than even the government knows about, if anyone wants to arrest and convict you, you will be arrested and convicted.
It WILL happen that some ex husband, ex boyfriend, obsessed fan, even obsessed girlfriend or something will abuse this data to hurt or even kill some innocent, well mostly innocent, since nobody is innocent according to this way of thinking, person.
It is there because the security nerds at the NSA have a wet dream every time they think about "having" all that data.
It's unconstitutional. It may take a tragedy and a change in the constitution to do it but it is against the character of our country to gather information like this.
Congress can easily reign in the NSA/FBI/CIA. All they have to do is cut of the money.
Cut funding for NSA and the new building in Utah is just a building with no people to do the work. No funding, no contractors, no contracts and they will lose interest.
Simple there have been rumors that NSA has a direct link to AT&T servers/routers for at least ten years.
Is it true? I certainly don't know, don't really want to know to tell the truth.
Actually it is already unlawful to make a false police report. However it is not probably something that you could be deported from, for instance, Russia.
Illegal is a sick bird.
Since I'm not in the UK so I can't tell but there are Tor programs for Android that work well can not anyone that is interested use them thus routing around the telco's DNS and filters?
My vision is limited. An Ebook's text can be enlarged to a point that I can read it with comfort. A physical book is stuck with whatever font size the publisher decided to use in the first place.
I poked around the other day and found an Ebook of an old childhood favorite, that I didn't have a "real" copy of and sat down with my grandson. Guess what. He leaned into me and the computer and listened as I read that old favorite.
The problem with forgetting the public in all of this is that, at least in the US the part of the whole bargain where we benefit from the agreement has been left out.
I'm a musician. If I want to record out of copyright music, and I do sometimes I have to figure out if a song is still copyrighted, which is a not trivial exercise and even if I do record music that is out of copyright it is extremely likely that a corporation will claim that it is still there's even when it's not.
Another problem is that, in general, corporations don't die. People do. Even when a corporation dies it's intellectual property is generally sold to another so it's still copyrighted and nothing is going into the public domain.
NOTHING
One more time, even though the corporations aren't really listening. NOTHING
Part of the bargain to allow creators copyright is being violated.
It's not a problem with creators not being compensated. It's a problem of the fact, one more time, it's a fact, that the bargain has been violated by the corporations.
The corporations have NO natural right to perpetual copyright but with their lobbyists and bribes to legislators they have removed the public benefit and with our new global society they are trying to remove that benefit to the entire world.
I know you won't but you corporate apologists should hang your heads in shame but this is your job so you will continue to be corporate lackeys.
I can't help it.
I've been a musician for 40 years, never had or even wanted a "hit".
I've had a lot of fun though and I figure that anyone that has made any money at all is pretty lucky.
Just think in 30 years she can join a reunion tour and be nostalgic with a bunch of other one hit wonders.
First, within days of this being implemented someone would publish an exploit to take advantage of this.
Second someone would make use of it to distribute some porn or malware and then it would make the old routers unstable.
It seems to me that if the family wants to have a little control over what is going to happen in the movie and wet their beak a little they ought to cooperate with the movie makers, but no that would be too easy.
Another problem
Whether is is abused by some guy that wants to follow his ex or a prosecutor chasing someone who isn't really guilty it eventually will be abused, just as all other government overreaches have always been abused.
Paid shills and comments
Re:
It's a funny thing about our rights in the USA. There is no such thing as being guilty without a trial, even when the spies think we are guilty.
Congress and this whole NSA thing
I simply do not understand the whole if you aren't guilty then you have nothing to fear attitude. With more federal regulations than even the government knows about, if anyone wants to arrest and convict you, you will be arrested and convicted.
It WILL happen that some ex husband, ex boyfriend, obsessed fan, even obsessed girlfriend or something will abuse this data to hurt or even kill some innocent, well mostly innocent, since nobody is innocent according to this way of thinking, person.
It is there because the security nerds at the NSA have a wet dream every time they think about "having" all that data.
It's unconstitutional. It may take a tragedy and a change in the constitution to do it but it is against the character of our country to gather information like this.
Power of the purse
Cut funding for NSA and the new building in Utah is just a building with no people to do the work. No funding, no contractors, no contracts and they will lose interest.
Pardon might not do any good if he's dead
The answer to how many
How could it happen?
Is it true? I certainly don't know, don't really want to know to tell the truth.
Re:
Illegal is a sick bird.
What about Tor?
Ebooks for some are better
I poked around the other day and found an Ebook of an old childhood favorite, that I didn't have a "real" copy of and sat down with my grandson. Guess what. He leaned into me and the computer and listened as I read that old favorite.
Witty sayings
Not mismanagement
The problem with forgetting the public
I'm a musician. If I want to record out of copyright music, and I do sometimes I have to figure out if a song is still copyrighted, which is a not trivial exercise and even if I do record music that is out of copyright it is extremely likely that a corporation will claim that it is still there's even when it's not.
Another problem is that, in general, corporations don't die. People do. Even when a corporation dies it's intellectual property is generally sold to another so it's still copyrighted and nothing is going into the public domain.
NOTHING
One more time, even though the corporations aren't really listening. NOTHING
Part of the bargain to allow creators copyright is being violated.
It's not a problem with creators not being compensated. It's a problem of the fact, one more time, it's a fact, that the bargain has been violated by the corporations.
The corporations have NO natural right to perpetual copyright but with their lobbyists and bribes to legislators they have removed the public benefit and with our new global society they are trying to remove that benefit to the entire world.
I know you won't but you corporate apologists should hang your heads in shame but this is your job so you will continue to be corporate lackeys.
Colors for kids
Who?
I've been a musician for 40 years, never had or even wanted a "hit".
I've had a lot of fun though and I figure that anyone that has made any money at all is pretty lucky.
Just think in 30 years she can join a reunion tour and be nostalgic with a bunch of other one hit wonders.
"where no one has gone before"
Where are?
I wonder if they all got laid off in the latest cuts?
Can't imagine it working
Second someone would make use of it to distribute some porn or malware and then it would make the old routers unstable.
Fame
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