You can't vote to do or not to do specific things. In a representative democratic Republic, you as a citizen have, at the behest of the framers, ceded certain rights to the government. Your input is who you vote for. You have, in effect, delegated decision making to them. You, theoretically, vote for those who appear to think most like you.
Now, the downside is when no one else, or a minority, thinks as you do. So then you have to settle for writing your elected representatives. Have you? I know that it carries little weight on it's own, but my little email to my reps along with others, when they bother, may affect the decisions they make. Maybe.
The root cause of why we are where we are at, is that we have, a majority of us, have decided NOT to be actively involved in the political process. It is easier to yell at the TV about those 'damn union members coerced by Obama and the crooked union leaders' up in Wisconsin, but think about this. Who was out there protesting? I didn't see a lot of Conservative Republicans out there. Blame the media? Tired excuse.
WE have abrogated OUR RESPONSIBILITY to be INVOLVED! It's much more fun to yell at the TV, watch 'Idol' and go to church on Sunday and hear how the godless liberals will burn in hell.
Wow, that was WELL put. Too bad most won't understand it. I spent 23 years in the USN in a job that meant putting TLAMs down range. Mil DOES change you...not a lot of research about that.
I held high clearances and saw stuff that I wish I hadn't. My opinion of the GOVERNMENT went down the toilet. Same same with some of the Military leadership. There needs to be a wholesale weeding out of the upper chain of command (starting at about E-7) not a wholesale dumping, but EVERYONE in that range needs to be looked closely at.
Now, to address Bradley. Not saying I agree with WHAT he did, but I can understand WHY he did it. Not defending it at all, just stating I can see what drove him to it, assuming that he is HONEST about the 'why'. I saw a lot of stuff that turned me from UBER (Rush Limbaugh) right winger to an UBER Libertarin (a la Robert Heinlein - ALSO a Navy guy).
What they are doing to this guy is a crime - but shit, look at what they (USG) started off doing down at GTMO, Abu Ghraib, and the 'stans. We've gone off the reservation a long time ago. Torturing prisoners? And how is calling them 'Unlawful Combatants' make them something other than prisoners?
This ain't the US I was defending.....funny thing. That Oath I took? Never had an expiration date on it. Neither did anyone else's. How much of what's going on rises to conduct being done by 'Enemies of the Constitution'? THAT was what we swore to do - protect the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.
Re: Root cause?
Now, the downside is when no one else, or a minority, thinks as you do. So then you have to settle for writing your elected representatives. Have you? I know that it carries little weight on it's own, but my little email to my reps along with others, when they bother, may affect the decisions they make. Maybe.
The root cause of why we are where we are at, is that we have, a majority of us, have decided NOT to be actively involved in the political process. It is easier to yell at the TV about those 'damn union members coerced by Obama and the crooked union leaders' up in Wisconsin, but think about this. Who was out there protesting? I didn't see a lot of Conservative Republicans out there. Blame the media? Tired excuse.
WE have abrogated OUR RESPONSIBILITY to be INVOLVED! It's much more fun to yell at the TV, watch 'Idol' and go to church on Sunday and hear how the godless liberals will burn in hell.
Yeah, we are all SO good.
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Re: Assange was the publisher, no different than NYT, Guardian, etc.,
Unconstitutional
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I held high clearances and saw stuff that I wish I hadn't. My opinion of the GOVERNMENT went down the toilet. Same same with some of the Military leadership. There needs to be a wholesale weeding out of the upper chain of command (starting at about E-7) not a wholesale dumping, but EVERYONE in that range needs to be looked closely at.
Now, to address Bradley. Not saying I agree with WHAT he did, but I can understand WHY he did it. Not defending it at all, just stating I can see what drove him to it, assuming that he is HONEST about the 'why'. I saw a lot of stuff that turned me from UBER (Rush Limbaugh) right winger to an UBER Libertarin (a la Robert Heinlein - ALSO a Navy guy).
What they are doing to this guy is a crime - but shit, look at what they (USG) started off doing down at GTMO, Abu Ghraib, and the 'stans. We've gone off the reservation a long time ago. Torturing prisoners? And how is calling them 'Unlawful Combatants' make them something other than prisoners?
This ain't the US I was defending.....funny thing. That Oath I took? Never had an expiration date on it. Neither did anyone else's. How much of what's going on rises to conduct being done by 'Enemies of the Constitution'? THAT was what we swore to do - protect the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.
Just words to consider.
Mucro publicus.
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