Then deal with it as petty theft - and explain to me why the hell the FBI is involved and wasting my tax money on a petty theft of a video? Send the LEOs after the guy, not the Federal Bureau of Spending My Tax Money.
Why the hell should some minor thief who stole a DVD get the same treatment as a serial killer? Even if you want to claim he did intellectual damage (which he didn't, at least not much, if you RTFA) then that's a civil suit and should be handled as much.
Also, as to your last comment:
Piracy isn't declining, it just moved HQs.
Correlation != Causation
Last I check, Music Sales was already increasing
So, ya bought "every book I can find on hacking and also have many you can't buy". You must be some kind of uber leet hacker, huh? Oh, yeah, that "Honey Pot Data NET" must just be the greatest thing ever, I'm sure none of the script kiddies can get past that with their Metasploit kits.
I think we should start doing the same thing as these guys - seed our legally owned content, and then when one somebody at one of these collection groups downloads it, slam them back and get another collection group after them. It would be entertaining.
I dislike Mike's closing argument, it seems along the lines of the flawed "If you have nothing to hide" arguments. I do however hope quite dearly that this bill passes, and I'm still surprised none of these companies have been taken to court for price gouging.
To agree with post #2, charging can alter how people value something. That's not to say that simply because I charge 25$ for my feces that the sewer company desires it anymore, but I have always noticed when doing websites or being an audio tech for a concert that I tend to be considered "better" if I charge more.
I did this as an experiment once. I built a website for a group I was involved in for free. They thanked me and moved on, but never used it much.
Yet for a small company (of whom I detested the owner) I charged them 300$ for a very similar website. Yet they love the website and are constantly asking me to do more work on it and continue to pay me well.
Whenever I've run benefit concerts, I usually get thanked a bit and the musicians are always nice, but that's the sum of it. Working for paid gigs at 25$/hour, I notice that I get much more respect, much more power and am treated much better by musicians, the people employing me, and so on.
Adding cost does have the potential to add value in some circumstances. There may also be more to the equation (I'm certainly not an economist) but it's been shown that charging more for an equivalent product can cause sales to rise for itself, and certainly for a lower priced twin.
There is a very weird relationship between consumer, price and value. I don't understand much of it beyond that when I charge more, I get treated better as an employee or contractor as long as my bill is reasonable. Why exactly? I have not a clue.
Obviously we should simply kick both France AND the Media Execs off the internet, permanently. Possibly remove their eyes and fingers to prevent them from sneaking on?
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Why the hell should some minor thief who stole a DVD get the same treatment as a serial killer? Even if you want to claim he did intellectual damage (which he didn't, at least not much, if you RTFA) then that's a civil suit and should be handled as much.
Also, as to your last comment:
Piracy isn't declining, it just moved HQs.
Correlation != Causation
Last I check, Music Sales was already increasing
@DigiProtect Now Handing Pre-Settlement Threat Amounts Over To Collections Agencies
I think we should start doing the same thing as these guys - seed our legally owned content, and then when one somebody at one of these collection groups downloads it, slam them back and get another collection group after them. It would be entertaining.
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I did this as an experiment once. I built a website for a group I was involved in for free. They thanked me and moved on, but never used it much.
Yet for a small company (of whom I detested the owner) I charged them 300$ for a very similar website. Yet they love the website and are constantly asking me to do more work on it and continue to pay me well.
Whenever I've run benefit concerts, I usually get thanked a bit and the musicians are always nice, but that's the sum of it. Working for paid gigs at 25$/hour, I notice that I get much more respect, much more power and am treated much better by musicians, the people employing me, and so on.
Adding cost does have the potential to add value in some circumstances. There may also be more to the equation (I'm certainly not an economist) but it's been shown that charging more for an equivalent product can cause sales to rise for itself, and certainly for a lower priced twin.
There is a very weird relationship between consumer, price and value. I don't understand much of it beyond that when I charge more, I get treated better as an employee or contractor as long as my bill is reasonable. Why exactly? I have not a clue.
Obviously...
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