Given that Republicans and Democrats both want to pass this spending bill so they can get on with the next one, it would be interesting to see if they can get the 2/3 majority to overturn the veto.
That would really be one in the eye for Trump. By doubling down he may be even more embarrassed when both sides go against him
I hang my head in shame at the ignorance of the UK public.
We led the world in engineering 100 years ago and now we are back to burning things because we don't understand them...
The really sad ting is that being dumb is seen as cool while getting an education and trying to improve is undesirable - how the hell did that happen?
I always say that my engineering degree gives me the understanding to know what to look up - I still stand by that. You don't remember everything but you need enough background to know where to start and then you apply the result. I grant you that may not be the case in every walk of life but it covers most of them.
I also remain torn on the coursework only idea for the same reasons as you - although I was always one of those annoying types that did well in exams despite little obvious work. Coursework is definitely a double-edged sword but if implemented properly, it could work in an online only world. Weekly submissions that gradually become more difficult works in STEM subject but I can see how languages or humanities subjects could be difficult.
I really fail to see why Zuk and Dorsey even play along. Ok, this is the senate and the players are supposed to be respected, but if they insist on acting like spoilt children they ought to be told as much.
A polite but firm "we run private businesses and you are trampling over the 1st amendment - that, may you be reminded, you swore to uphold" would be great to see. A "with respect you are inventing crap and spouting bullshit" would be even better.
It can't be beyond their capability to change exams to open book and just let the students get on with it.
Log into your exam and after eg. 3 hours, it stops accepting input.
No tracking required and the exam is more relevant to modern life (looking things up as another comment suggested).
It amazes me that everyone seems to be able to change how they work and modify their behaviour except academia. In the UK they are talking about dropping exams altogether and relying on coursework - I am split on that one as it could bias against a good student who gets no help at home...
It also helps if you understand the wider context that the UK bill has to operate under.
The UK is a signatory of the Human Rights Act which forbids the use of torture and extra judicial killing.
If you had read the discussion in the House, you would have seen this question being raised and the response:
"They must also be compliant with our obligations under the Human Rights Act, including the right to life and the prohibition of torture or subjecting someone to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment"
So this is not a license to kill, torture or anything else - it is intended to allow undercover agents to join otherwise banned organisations and operate on the fringes of the law but it does not give carte blanche to do anything they want.
Apologies to my US friends.
Given that you have to live with the results of Trump's idiocracy, my comment was in poor taste. It has been a very odd 4 years though.
did you guys know that the UK stupidly got out of the EU? Crazy!
Some could say that this is why the UK left the EU...
I can see both sides so I try to stay out of Brexit conversations. Our politics are generally not as polarised as the US but on this subject, families and friends have been known to stop talking to each other. Now that's crazy!
Now the Government is going to spend $1000s defending an unconstiutional EO with no real basis. Well, other than someone on TikTok said something nasty about the thin skinned man-child that you voted in last time.
Part of me would like to see Trump royally beaten in November but, as an outside observer, the world will get a lot less funny if Biden wins (sorry!)
Regulation of 'The Internet' by the US would only pander to the wet dreams of corporate lobbyists and the best democracy that money can buy but it would not be a regulation that the rest of the world will recognise.
Remove 230 protections? Fine - a lot of US lawyers will become rich but the rest of the world will carry on moderating as they want because legal systems elsewhere are set up differently. Not necessarily better or worse but different. Google, Facebook etc. are US corps and may have to go along with it but if I created a website in the UK I could moderate it as I please, just as I can today.
Go full on and ban gambling or nudity while promoting right wing extremism? (not a serious suggestion, just making a point!) and the rest of the world will carry on betting and creating porn while creating their own filters for content... How will the US prevent access to sites that do not meet the new US only regulations?
Copyright seems to be the only area where a lot of the world has a consensus - and look where that has got us!!
Although given Iceland's population and distribution, this is the equivalent of looking at a single medium sized town in the rest of the world.
As most of Iceland is uninhabitable, almost everyone lives in Reykjavic and surrounding towns with very little travel outside of the region so it is probable that more normal contact tracing methods are effective. I am not sure if this would scale to most European countries or America where cities have orders of magnitude greater population and significant movement between population centres.
Don't get me wrong, I will have a contact tracing app on my phone when they remove it from my cold, dead fingers but I am not sure that Iceland it really that representative.
To give a sense of scale, the UK is trialling the NHS contact tracing app on the Isle of Wight (a tiny blob just off the south coast). With a population of 140k it is very similar to Reykjavic city and is considered a small scale experiment to test the operation of the app and the database (because, of course the UK wants a databse!!) on an island with little mobility. It would probably be easier to trace using phone calls etc. here too but not on a UK scale.
"We are already exploring that option, but our primary focus is to maximize production of our current ventilation devices, masks, and accessories"
What kind of excuse is that? Operations and Procurement may be busy with get ting parts and making new ventilators but that does not stop Engineering from releasing a patch or Test from verifying it works. The two areas of focus do not conflict - you can do both!
As has been said, obviously more interested in profit than people
Meanwhile in the socialist / communist European countries such as the UK, France, Germany etc. the telecom sector is highly regulated and ex-state controlled services compete with necomers.
In the UK we beat up our watchdog (OFCOM) for being a bit useless but at least they make an effort - they gave the telcos a couple of years to sort out roaming charges and, when they did nothing, price caps were put in place. Ok, so the telcos sold it as 'we are lowering your prices because we love you' but it was definitely imposed upon them - could you say the same would happen in the US?
(untitled comment)
Somewhere between 'hail of bullets' and 'casual observer' there is a middle ground where good policing lives.
They have not quite got it right yet - keep trying!
/div>(untitled comment)
Oh, damn... you're right <facepalm> There is no end to this guy's spin and BS.
/div>(untitled comment)
It would be an ironic end to the Trump presidency if he actually got both sides agreeing on something ;)
/div>(untitled comment)
Given that Republicans and Democrats both want to pass this spending bill so they can get on with the next one, it would be interesting to see if they can get the 2/3 majority to overturn the veto.
/div>That would really be one in the eye for Trump. By doubling down he may be even more embarrassed when both sides go against him
Re:
Thanks you for proving my point so quickly!
/div>(untitled comment)
I hang my head in shame at the ignorance of the UK public.
We led the world in engineering 100 years ago and now we are back to burning things because we don't understand them...
The really sad ting is that being dumb is seen as cool while getting an education and trying to improve is undesirable - how the hell did that happen?
/div>Re:
I always say that my engineering degree gives me the understanding to know what to look up - I still stand by that. You don't remember everything but you need enough background to know where to start and then you apply the result. I grant you that may not be the case in every walk of life but it covers most of them.
I also remain torn on the coursework only idea for the same reasons as you - although I was always one of those annoying types that did well in exams despite little obvious work. Coursework is definitely a double-edged sword but if implemented properly, it could work in an online only world. Weekly submissions that gradually become more difficult works in STEM subject but I can see how languages or humanities subjects could be difficult.
/div>(untitled comment)
I really fail to see why Zuk and Dorsey even play along. Ok, this is the senate and the players are supposed to be respected, but if they insist on acting like spoilt children they ought to be told as much.
A polite but firm "we run private businesses and you are trampling over the 1st amendment - that, may you be reminded, you swore to uphold" would be great to see. A "with respect you are inventing crap and spouting bullshit" would be even better.
/div>(untitled comment)
It can't be beyond their capability to change exams to open book and just let the students get on with it.
Log into your exam and after eg. 3 hours, it stops accepting input.
No tracking required and the exam is more relevant to modern life (looking things up as another comment suggested).
It amazes me that everyone seems to be able to change how they work and modify their behaviour except academia. In the UK they are talking about dropping exams altogether and relying on coursework - I am split on that one as it could bias against a good student who gets no help at home...
/div>(untitled comment)
You see? Your Congress-critters are not the only complete idiots in politics...
We have to suffer these morons daily too!
Next - porn filters and encryption backdoors!
/div>Re: Great! Support the traditional three-part American system!
It also helps if you understand the wider context that the UK bill has to operate under.
The UK is a signatory of the Human Rights Act which forbids the use of torture and extra judicial killing.
If you had read the discussion in the House, you would have seen this question being raised and the response:
"They must also be compliant with our obligations under the Human Rights Act, including the right to life and the prohibition of torture or subjecting someone to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment"
So this is not a license to kill, torture or anything else - it is intended to allow undercover agents to join otherwise banned organisations and operate on the fringes of the law but it does not give carte blanche to do anything they want.
/div>Re:
Apologies to my US friends.
/div>Given that you have to live with the results of Trump's idiocracy, my comment was in poor taste. It has been a very odd 4 years though.
(untitled comment)
did you guys know that the UK stupidly got out of the EU? Crazy!
Some could say that this is why the UK left the EU...
/div>I can see both sides so I try to stay out of Brexit conversations. Our politics are generally not as polarised as the US but on this subject, families and friends have been known to stop talking to each other. Now that's crazy!
(untitled comment)
Your tax dollars at work USA...
Now the Government is going to spend $1000s defending an unconstiutional EO with no real basis. Well, other than someone on TikTok said something nasty about the thin skinned man-child that you voted in last time.
Part of me would like to see Trump royally beaten in November but, as an outside observer, the world will get a lot less funny if Biden wins (sorry!)
/div>US Regulation - will the world care?
Regulation of 'The Internet' by the US would only pander to the wet dreams of corporate lobbyists and the best democracy that money can buy but it would not be a regulation that the rest of the world will recognise.
Remove 230 protections? Fine - a lot of US lawyers will become rich but the rest of the world will carry on moderating as they want because legal systems elsewhere are set up differently. Not necessarily better or worse but different. Google, Facebook etc. are US corps and may have to go along with it but if I created a website in the UK I could moderate it as I please, just as I can today.
Go full on and ban gambling or nudity while promoting right wing extremism? (not a serious suggestion, just making a point!) and the rest of the world will carry on betting and creating porn while creating their own filters for content... How will the US prevent access to sites that do not meet the new US only regulations?
Copyright seems to be the only area where a lot of the world has a consensus - and look where that has got us!!
/div>Re:
Looks like PaulT beat me to it while I was typing...
/div>(untitled comment)
Although given Iceland's population and distribution, this is the equivalent of looking at a single medium sized town in the rest of the world.
As most of Iceland is uninhabitable, almost everyone lives in Reykjavic and surrounding towns with very little travel outside of the region so it is probable that more normal contact tracing methods are effective. I am not sure if this would scale to most European countries or America where cities have orders of magnitude greater population and significant movement between population centres.
Don't get me wrong, I will have a contact tracing app on my phone when they remove it from my cold, dead fingers but I am not sure that Iceland it really that representative.
To give a sense of scale, the UK is trialling the NHS contact tracing app on the Isle of Wight (a tiny blob just off the south coast). With a population of 140k it is very similar to Reykjavic city and is considered a small scale experiment to test the operation of the app and the database (because, of course the UK wants a databse!!) on an island with little mobility. It would probably be easier to trace using phone calls etc. here too but not on a UK scale.
/div>(untitled comment)
"We are already exploring that option, but our primary focus is to maximize production of our current ventilation devices, masks, and accessories"
What kind of excuse is that? Operations and Procurement may be busy with get ting parts and making new ventilators but that does not stop Engineering from releasing a patch or Test from verifying it works. The two areas of focus do not conflict - you can do both!
As has been said, obviously more interested in profit than people
/div>Re: Contrarian perspective
Meanwhile in the socialist / communist European countries such as the UK, France, Germany etc. the telecom sector is highly regulated and ex-state controlled services compete with necomers.
In the UK we beat up our watchdog (OFCOM) for being a bit useless but at least they make an effort - they gave the telcos a couple of years to sort out roaming charges and, when they did nothing, price caps were put in place. Ok, so the telcos sold it as 'we are lowering your prices because we love you' but it was definitely imposed upon them - could you say the same would happen in the US?
/div>(untitled comment)
I don't know about anti-SLAPP.
I think the precocious little brat could do with a couple of SLAPPs himself!
Who is actually paying for the Lawyers?
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