I do agree Amazon as an entity is entirely within their rights to kick off Parler. I keep coming back to a simple thought about being careful what you ask for or as Martin Niemoller said of the Nazis after the war (isn't it interesting how history repeats itself?):
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
How exactly could anyone have prevented WuHan ?? Trump doesn't control China, in fact the previous administrator provided money that lab.
Tell me oh wondrous one - how would have reacted different. No one went without ventilators despite the whines of Cumo & Newsome. Trump didn't stuff patients into Nursing Homes then block investigations of it. Tell what you would have done different - since you are the beneficiary of 20/20 hindsight.
If Trump had run around like Chicken Little telling us we are all going to die, he would have been attacked for that. TDS reigns ... As it was he was attacked for limiting (not banning) Chinese travel and Nancy P. wanted a party in China town and Joe said he was a xenophobe. Face it, he no path that would have changed anything. No one went with out essential medial equipment. The responses that Trump did weren't used. Hospital ships not uses, field hospitals never getting any patients, etc..
>You must be really desperate if you need to work that many hours to earn a >>liveable wage. What a shame that you choose to spend your minimal free time >>posting such nonsense as you have here. Here's hoping your situation improves >>and your life becomes more meaningful.
Now the little kids come out, but I can play in that world too ..
Yep some us start dirt poor, get an education working every day they are in school so they have no debt, then work there way up -- even though we don't know about essential oils -- build their own business and have customers trusting them to do complex tasks and stick with it no matter how long it takes. We build a solid life and very solid income. Then we get attacked for what we do from folks who can't do or unwilling to do something that gets them ahead. So go back to your "do you want fries with that" job (if you have one) and let the productive members of society actually build something for you to leach off of.
95% of all stories in the media were anti-trump, if the main stream media saw white supremacist riots - we would have seen something about them.
>You seem to think that all the protests in the wake of George Floyd have >>turned violent (they have not). You seem to suffer from the belief that one >>person, or a small group of people, speaks for all people who consider >>themselves part of the Movement for Black Lives (they do not). And you seem >>greatly ignorant of the history of race relations in the United States if you’re >>willing to ignore the existence of the Klan.
Joe Biden praised Robert Byrd as his mentor -- he was a Klan Member. But the Democrats voted him their candidate, Ms. Harris was a black women who couldn't win the nomination - obviously democrats don't support minority women. Yet to things that are central theme of the current protests - don't seem to matter a long you can rail against the current government.
Many protests were non-violent, I have no problem with them. But then you assume all people who don't agree with you are racist or KKK or some other thre letter acronym. But white supremacists are small minority - why do you assume the they talk for everyone? You say we need to not say anything about small minority of violent protesters - why doesn't the same rule apply to you. Hypocrisy rears it's ugly head again.
As to folks who came up to Lansing, MI and carried weapons legally -- if all them were so dangerous -- how come no one got shot? How come there was no violence, no cops injured, no one hurt. Didn't see a single Molotov cocktail, fireworks, bottles thrown, etc.. "PEACEFUL" protests. No teargas used, no rubber bullets or pepper spray.
In fact the ones the news cried about, and Whitmer complained about, in the Capital Rotunda in Michigan - they all checked in legally with the State Police on guard, had their temperatures checked, and were totally respectful of the security. How 'bout the black gun owners who showed up the following week to protest the lock down, the were peaceful too. Where is the good behavior in left protests. Not single dead body in a non-violent protest by conservatives over the lockdown. Guess they are not the threat you talk about right? Can Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Atlanta, etc.. say that. NO they can't.
I've know I can not persuade you, but it was a fun exercise while I did my 19hr job today. You didn't resort to any real name calling, I am impressed some. If we could get more peaceful intelligent discourse we could probably solve a lot of problems, but unfortunately that is unlikely in the current environment of echo chamber mob rule politics. The end result is going to be the destruction of country that has provided you and almost all others with a good life, great quality of life and a chance to get ahead. We are all created equal, but some of work harder, some have to work even harder because they have more impediments to success. The trouble is they don't understand how much effective you can be if work instead of complain. Make good decisions. It's got nothing to do with the color of your skin or what hangs/doesn't hang between your legs. It's got to your socio-economic status and trying to play the victim so someone will "lift you up" .. the current lower class has been looking the the liberal democrats for that for 75 years, it's go them baltimore, chicago, NYC, rochester, etc.. you would think you would all figure out to keep repeating the same mistakes will only give the same results. You can wait for someone to do it for you, but violence is not the answer because you leave only violence as response. Making enemies of the cops will only get you greater violence in return. If the current local governments had an interest in fixing things, they would have 50 years ago. They take the vote for granted ... just like Joe B. said.
Got tonnes of moral, I am polite, I judge people based on what they do, not what look like. I volunteer, I raised kids who are contributing members of society.
No one "realizes" they have morals, morals are taught by you parents and family. They are things in this world that are right and wrong. Threatening people w/violence to get your way is wrong. Stealing and destroying property of people who have done nothing to you is wrong. Intimidating people who are eating dinner because you don't like the color of their skin is wrong. I am curious how you can justify racism by those protesters?
Now BLM has stated they want segregated communities, reparations, etc.. So bascially they want to be able to discriminate - hence Hawk Newsome in NYC said:
In it he said that if BLM protesters didn’t get what they wanted, “They will burn down the system.”
“We don’t want white people here,” Newsome told The Post, still fired up as he walked near Yankee Stadium, gesturing at the majestic pre-war apartments on the Grand Concourse and a brilliant sunset.
Basically throwing away all the work of the 60's civil rights leaders and trying to take us back 70 years...
All the actions of the current protesers are pretty stupid. I have to admit I never saw the right wing so called White Supremacists rioting or burning down cities, stealing property, etc. That does not make them right either but it is the facts.
>Removing a well liked/respect Dorm head because his law firm represents >>someone the students don't like
A lawyer who was set to defend Harvey Weinstein in his upcoming rape trial has been dropped as a faculty dean at Harvard Law School.
Ronald Sullivan Jr., a veteran professor of law at the Ivy League school, will not be returning as faculty dean when his term runs out June 30, according to an emailed letter to students Saturday from Rakesh Khurana, dean of Harvard College. In the letter, Khurana cited student opposition to Sullivan’s defense of the disgraced Hollywood producer.
“Over the last few weeks, students and staff have continued to communicate concerns about the climate in Winthrop House to the college,” Khurana wrote. “The concerns expressed have been serious and numerous. … I have concluded that the situation … is untenable.”
Sullivan’s wife Stephanie Robinson is also being released from her duties as faculty dean at the end of June. The couple were the school’s first African-Americans to hold that position.
>>> NOTE THAT -- Even Being a Minority does not help you if the mob dislikes you.
So if you aren't popular you don't get a lawyer - they are trying to force and intimidate you based on threaten your job if your do you job.. Better yet he had already withdrawn from the defense team.. so he & his wife were punished for what his firm did. Not what he did.
>But how it painting over a BLM mural a hate crime, but tearing down a >>statue of an abolitionist not a hate crime.
>Context. Painting over a mural that proclaims “Black Lives Matter” can be >>seen as (and practically always is) an act with racist intent — an attempt to >>nullify the message, regardless of whatever replaces it.
During chaos at the Wisconsin State Capitol Tuesday night, protesters tore down two statues that have stood in front of the statehouse for decades — including one memorializing a Wisconsin abolitionist who died trying to end slavery during the Civil War. Too stupid to know who they are hating.
You don't think Mob's can stifle free speech with intimidation?? Isn't that supposedly what Antifa & BLM are about - for change thru intimidation? Why else protest and riot -- why assault others, why burn down their own neighborhoods.
Better yet - 2013 - .77 lives per 100k blacks killed by whites, 53.9 lives per 100k blacks killed by blacks. Yet riots and destruction of black owned properties is the norm.. god help those who disagree.
Tupac said it well:
I've been Trapped since birth, cautious, 'cause I'm cursed
And fantasies of my family, in a hearse
And they say it's the white man I should fear
But, it's my own kind doin' all the killin' here
I can't lie, ain't no love for the other side
It's all about power and intimidation - the democratic/progressive left is out of power, the want it back. They don't care who they walk on to get it. The fanatic right is the same way but don't riot in mass.. Different tactics - same desire.
Who decides what bigoted and racist? Doesn't matter the color of you skin, the god you worship, you gender -- Riots preventing someone from speaking to people who wish to hear them -- that is censorship. Students asking to remove a department chair because he said a students opinion might not be shared by others, marching into a restaurant intimidating diners so they put their arms up and support the intimidating group.(sound very Russian 50's-70's to me) Removing a well liked/respect Dorm head because his law firm represents someone the students don't like. That is censorship, it is the consequences of letting mobs believe they are arbiters of what is ok to say/write/think.
I don't have a problem with an employer firing someone for violating rules, it's a private company and it's their right. But how it painting over a BLM mural a hate crime, but tearing down a statue of an abolitionist not a hate crime. Who decides? You can't have freedom unless everyone is free, you nor I do not have a right not to be annoyed at someone.
How can a 68% minority race town have a police force who is almost all white(who is this case are a minority)? Don't they vote? They get the government they elected... (Ferguson)..
ever read MalcomX:
Malcolm X said: “The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.”
Nope you anonymous - but anyway how does trump do all this then -- he doesn't have a majority either and has been blocked by courts in many cases. Sounds like the checks and balances will keep the executive and legislative branches in check. So what you are you worried about?
Me I pray the progressive side doesn't get full control. I see a packed supreme court with 10-15 judges so they can appoint them (just FDR did in the 1930's), other things I mentioned. You just don't see it as bad if you side is doing it. I see it as bad if either side does it. Trust me, the water in the pot is just being turned up -- for frogs like those on the progressive side, that can't see the danger. I believe if there is a majority to either the progressive or conservative side, we have reason to worry.
You mean the party that said "If you don't vote for me you ain't black" or the one who's candidate found against body cams in California, or one who's candidate that voted against busing, or the one who's candidate gave all the value in GM to the UAW and destroyed the 401k's of retirees and investors by splitting the company into a surviving half with all the valuable parts (went to UAW) and left other bankrupt part to the rest of the investors.
Or do you mean the supporters who said old white men are ruining the country and cops are evil, but nominated a 77 year old white guy and a attorney general/prosecutor?
Or do you mean the party that's run many major cities for 50 years or more and still have problems with the police -- so they are the supporters the BLM & Other protesters want to represent them, The party that runs a city that has an app the tracks human feces on the street because they can't address the homeless issue, even when they control the richest city in the us with highest real estate prices and rents?
I don't support democrats or republicans - I support people who will address serious problems with serious people -- the democrats and republicans today don't fit that bill. But it's the only game in town. It's the hypocrisy I can't stand.
I don't care for Trump and you are pretty much dead on with him trying to moderate/censor speech on his part -- but then again how is what the left wants to do with the "WOKE" culture, don't cover trump, fire folks who tweet the wrong thing, etc.. any different? Explain that to me and maybe you get my agreement.
Basically I am against hypocrisy -- which is exactly what I see here. I won't list all the news articles on the woke/cancel/mob rule culture of the progressive side, there is plenty on the conservative side too .... That and there is no reason any private service has to allow all speech, it's a private service. The FCC of the left or right would both love to censor speech to just their version of the truth. Think about what you would say if AT&T or Verizon limit what you can talk about with your friends on your cell.. best you would bitch about that on either side. But social media is not a communications utility.
most interesting thing is that as soon as took over, they built walls to prevent people entering and started vetting people before the let them in.. sorta ironic if you think about it?
>>Were you just trying to cram as many unsupported >>assumptions into one paragraph as possible?
Note you aren't willing to post your name or back your comment up with refuting evidence. I can however produce video of both clintons, obama, and pelosi all saying how we need to control the boarder and stop illegal immigration. They all talk it, no one does anything.
Don't see what unsupported assumption is there. It's illegal to cross the boarder outside of a port of entry. The entire Rio Grande is not a port of entry. Everyone talked about how they would control illegal immigration, no one ever did it until Trump. ICE is simply enforcing the law. If you commit a crime in the US often you are separated from your children -- ask a lot of White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.. mothers in jails today. Don't believe it's a good idea, but why aren't you against separating mothers from children when the commit a crime if they not an illegal alien?
If you are found in the company of a child that you can't prove it's yours when enter Canada - guess what you might get that child removed from your care.. same here.
"The are committing a crime by entering illegally - not through a Port of Entry" it's that simple. It's against the law and congress has not changed the law. ICE is simply enforcing it. If politicians don't want it to happen - change the laws. It's really that simple./div>
Let's see, I get from the article that the system is useless because aside from the crazies(to be expected) it's being intentionally undermined by the folks who don't like it's intended function therefore it's a bad idea. Personally I too am against it but it's a bit of a bad logic here. It's ineffective because it's being attacked by callers who want it to fail, therefore it's a bad idea.
Basically we are saying ICE is bad because it tries to enforce laws passed by politicians who don't want those laws to be enforced even though the voted for them? There is plenty of video evidence of obama, clinton(s), democrats, etc.. and republicans too all saying we have to stop illegal immigration for security and a number of other reasons. But those same folks want to abolish ICE and hate Trump because they are enforcing the same laws those politicians passed.
I would love to see true immigration reform with a true path to citizenship that is not almost impossible to get through. I would like a fast lane for those already in the system - ahead of those who are here illegally (yes not undocumented but "illegally") ... a path for those who jumped the line that doesn't require them to go back. But first you have to stop increasing the second set. That means enforcing the laws on the books or repealing those laws up front. But no one has the balls to deal with the problem./div>
Hillary hijacked the Democratic Party She stole the nomination Got debate questions ahead of time Bury evidence by deleting emails Finance a fake dossier on Trump Weaponize FBI and use the fake dossier to get warrants Outspend your opponent by more than double (Trump spent 62% less per electoral vote than Hillary Promise free stuff to just about everyone Spy on your opponent
and STILL LOSE!!! Then call the man who beat you INCOMPETENT. You all have to see the unbelievable irony of blaming it on anyone but Hillary right?/div>
I mean now the defendants can go after everything the democrats have in hand, if they are suing under DMCA they can request discovery of those documents, etc.. right? Not mention the few emails they might have <grin> and tons of other documentation, servers, etc. How does the DNC prove this without showing what was hacked/influenced/stolen right? Sure to get leaked too.
My prediction is that this case will be dropped about Nov 7th...but until then it will allow the DNC and it's PR folks to say/leak/fabricate anything they want as commentary and it will be backed/reported as gospel by their supporting media outlets./div>
So we are to believe the Russians are so effective in they "internet trolling operation" they could not do something like having their own Fake WhistleBlower to tout how effective they are in influencing things. Why do they need to work at influencing us when we are willing to do if for them? Sure sounds like something a smart operative would think of./div>
We have finally enabled anyone anywhere to access the very basis for our society - at will w/no repercussions. For all the good the internet has done this world, it's has provided a conduit to the evil as well as the good. Sounds almost biblical doesn't it? But what used to be limited to the few hundred square miles around a person can be pushed out to entire world with a few keystrokes and we have proved over and over we are worthy of this power. Like giving a child a loaded gun and not expecting a disaster ... I don't see how we fix this but sure I don't want to hand the warden the keys to the internet, but I don't see how we can fix this in any way./div>
So if the state rep who is pushing this sends me a unsolicited email,IE a fund raising email or other stupid update email, that I find objectionable, to start this, I reply back to that email that I don't want to be contacted again.
Now I show up outside of the capital building as he walks out - bingo I am in sight, he's violated the law and can be arrested right?/div>
Slippery Slop indeed
I do agree Amazon as an entity is entirely within their rights to kick off Parler. I keep coming back to a simple thought about being careful what you ask for or as Martin Niemoller said of the Nazis after the war (isn't it interesting how history repeats itself?):
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
/div>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nice pretense
How exactly could anyone have prevented WuHan ?? Trump doesn't control China, in fact the previous administrator provided money that lab.
Tell me oh wondrous one - how would have reacted different. No one went without ventilators despite the whines of Cumo & Newsome. Trump didn't stuff patients into Nursing Homes then block investigations of it. Tell what you would have done different - since you are the beneficiary of 20/20 hindsight.
If Trump had run around like Chicken Little telling us we are all going to die, he would have been attacked for that. TDS reigns ... As it was he was attacked for limiting (not banning) Chinese travel and Nancy P. wanted a party in China town and Joe said he was a xenophobe. Face it, he no path that would have changed anything. No one went with out essential medial equipment. The responses that Trump did weren't used. Hospital ships not uses, field hospitals never getting any patients, etc..
Who is being dishonest here? -- you are
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Now the little kids come out, but I can play in that world too ..
Yep some us start dirt poor, get an education working every day they are in school so they have no debt, then work there way up -- even though we don't know about essential oils -- build their own business and have customers trusting them to do complex tasks and stick with it no matter how long it takes. We build a solid life and very solid income. Then we get attacked for what we do from folks who can't do or unwilling to do something that gets them ahead. So go back to your "do you want fries with that" job (if you have one) and let the productive members of society actually build something for you to leach off of.
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95% of all stories in the media were anti-trump, if the main stream media saw white supremacist riots - we would have seen something about them.
Joe Biden praised Robert Byrd as his mentor -- he was a Klan Member. But the Democrats voted him their candidate, Ms. Harris was a black women who couldn't win the nomination - obviously democrats don't support minority women. Yet to things that are central theme of the current protests - don't seem to matter a long you can rail against the current government.
Many protests were non-violent, I have no problem with them. But then you assume all people who don't agree with you are racist or KKK or some other thre letter acronym. But white supremacists are small minority - why do you assume the they talk for everyone? You say we need to not say anything about small minority of violent protesters - why doesn't the same rule apply to you. Hypocrisy rears it's ugly head again.
As to folks who came up to Lansing, MI and carried weapons legally -- if all them were so dangerous -- how come no one got shot? How come there was no violence, no cops injured, no one hurt. Didn't see a single Molotov cocktail, fireworks, bottles thrown, etc.. "PEACEFUL" protests. No teargas used, no rubber bullets or pepper spray.
In fact the ones the news cried about, and Whitmer complained about, in the Capital Rotunda in Michigan - they all checked in legally with the State Police on guard, had their temperatures checked, and were totally respectful of the security. How 'bout the black gun owners who showed up the following week to protest the lock down, the were peaceful too. Where is the good behavior in left protests. Not single dead body in a non-violent protest by conservatives over the lockdown. Guess they are not the threat you talk about right? Can Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Atlanta, etc.. say that. NO they can't.
I've know I can not persuade you, but it was a fun exercise while I did my 19hr job today. You didn't resort to any real name calling, I am impressed some. If we could get more peaceful intelligent discourse we could probably solve a lot of problems, but unfortunately that is unlikely in the current environment of echo chamber mob rule politics. The end result is going to be the destruction of country that has provided you and almost all others with a good life, great quality of life and a chance to get ahead. We are all created equal, but some of work harder, some have to work even harder because they have more impediments to success. The trouble is they don't understand how much effective you can be if work instead of complain. Make good decisions. It's got nothing to do with the color of your skin or what hangs/doesn't hang between your legs. It's got to your socio-economic status and trying to play the victim so someone will "lift you up" .. the current lower class has been looking the the liberal democrats for that for 75 years, it's go them baltimore, chicago, NYC, rochester, etc.. you would think you would all figure out to keep repeating the same mistakes will only give the same results. You can wait for someone to do it for you, but violence is not the answer because you leave only violence as response. Making enemies of the cops will only get you greater violence in return. If the current local governments had an interest in fixing things, they would have 50 years ago. They take the vote for granted ... just like Joe B. said.
/div>Re: Re: Re: You have to watch something besides Instagram
Got tonnes of moral, I am polite, I judge people based on what they do, not what look like. I volunteer, I raised kids who are contributing members of society.
No one "realizes" they have morals, morals are taught by you parents and family. They are things in this world that are right and wrong. Threatening people w/violence to get your way is wrong. Stealing and destroying property of people who have done nothing to you is wrong. Intimidating people who are eating dinner because you don't like the color of their skin is wrong. I am curious how you can justify racism by those protesters?
Now BLM has stated they want segregated communities, reparations, etc.. So bascially they want to be able to discriminate - hence Hawk Newsome in NYC said:
In it he said that if BLM protesters didn’t get what they wanted, “They will burn down the system.”
“We don’t want white people here,” Newsome told The Post, still fired up as he walked near Yankee Stadium, gesturing at the majestic pre-war apartments on the Grand Concourse and a brilliant sunset.
Basically throwing away all the work of the 60's civil rights leaders and trying to take us back 70 years...
All the actions of the current protesers are pretty stupid. I have to admit I never saw the right wing so called White Supremacists rioting or burning down cities, stealing property, etc. That does not make them right either but it is the facts.
/div>Re: You have to watch something besides Instagram
https://wjla.com/news/local/protesters-heckle-dc-woman-restaurant
https://www.youtube.com/wat ch?v=ujJm8Hn5sIc
A lawyer who was set to defend Harvey Weinstein in his upcoming rape trial has been dropped as a faculty dean at Harvard Law School.
Ronald Sullivan Jr., a veteran professor of law at the Ivy League school, will not be returning as faculty dean when his term runs out June 30, according to an emailed letter to students Saturday from Rakesh Khurana, dean of Harvard College. In the letter, Khurana cited student opposition to Sullivan’s defense of the disgraced Hollywood producer.
“Over the last few weeks, students and staff have continued to communicate concerns about the climate in Winthrop House to the college,” Khurana wrote. “The concerns expressed have been serious and numerous. … I have concluded that the situation … is untenable.”
Sullivan’s wife Stephanie Robinson is also being released from her duties as faculty dean at the end of June. The couple were the school’s first African-Americans to hold that position.
So if you aren't popular you don't get a lawyer - they are trying to force and intimidate you based on threaten your job if your do you job.. Better yet he had already withdrawn from the defense team.. so he & his wife were punished for what his firm did. Not what he did.
During chaos at the Wisconsin State Capitol Tuesday night, protesters tore down two statues that have stood in front of the statehouse for decades — including one memorializing a Wisconsin abolitionist who died trying to end slavery during the Civil War. Too stupid to know who they are hating.
You don't think Mob's can stifle free speech with intimidation?? Isn't that supposedly what Antifa & BLM are about - for change thru intimidation? Why else protest and riot -- why assault others, why burn down their own neighborhoods.
Better yet - 2013 - .77 lives per 100k blacks killed by whites, 53.9 lives per 100k blacks killed by blacks. Yet riots and destruction of black owned properties is the norm.. god help those who disagree.
Tupac said it well:
I've been Trapped since birth, cautious, 'cause I'm cursed
And fantasies of my family, in a hearse
And they say it's the white man I should fear
But, it's my own kind doin' all the killin' here
I can't lie, ain't no love for the other side
It's all about power and intimidation - the democratic/progressive left is out of power, the want it back. They don't care who they walk on to get it. The fanatic right is the same way but don't riot in mass.. Different tactics - same desire.
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Who decides what bigoted and racist? Doesn't matter the color of you skin, the god you worship, you gender -- Riots preventing someone from speaking to people who wish to hear them -- that is censorship. Students asking to remove a department chair because he said a students opinion might not be shared by others, marching into a restaurant intimidating diners so they put their arms up and support the intimidating group.(sound very Russian 50's-70's to me) Removing a well liked/respect Dorm head because his law firm represents someone the students don't like. That is censorship, it is the consequences of letting mobs believe they are arbiters of what is ok to say/write/think.
I don't have a problem with an employer firing someone for violating rules, it's a private company and it's their right. But how it painting over a BLM mural a hate crime, but tearing down a statue of an abolitionist not a hate crime. Who decides? You can't have freedom unless everyone is free, you nor I do not have a right not to be annoyed at someone.
How can a 68% minority race town have a police force who is almost all white(who is this case are a minority)? Don't they vote? They get the government they elected... (Ferguson)..
ever read MalcomX:
Malcolm X said: “The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.”
/div>Re: Re: Curious how you guys come up with this...
Nope you anonymous - but anyway how does trump do all this then -- he doesn't have a majority either and has been blocked by courts in many cases. Sounds like the checks and balances will keep the executive and legislative branches in check. So what you are you worried about?
Me I pray the progressive side doesn't get full control. I see a packed supreme court with 10-15 judges so they can appoint them (just FDR did in the 1930's), other things I mentioned. You just don't see it as bad if you side is doing it. I see it as bad if either side does it. Trust me, the water in the pot is just being turned up -- for frogs like those on the progressive side, that can't see the danger. I believe if there is a majority to either the progressive or conservative side, we have reason to worry.
/div>Re: Re: Re: Curious how you guys come up with this...
I admit mistakes - my fault picked the wrong message, see my name now.
/div>Re: Re: Curious how you guys come up with this...
Re: support democrats
You mean the party that said "If you don't vote for me you ain't black" or the one who's candidate found against body cams in California, or one who's candidate that voted against busing, or the one who's candidate gave all the value in GM to the UAW and destroyed the 401k's of retirees and investors by splitting the company into a surviving half with all the valuable parts (went to UAW) and left other bankrupt part to the rest of the investors.
Or do you mean the supporters who said old white men are ruining the country and cops are evil, but nominated a 77 year old white guy and a attorney general/prosecutor?
Or do you mean the party that's run many major cities for 50 years or more and still have problems with the police -- so they are the supporters the BLM & Other protesters want to represent them, The party that runs a city that has an app the tracks human feces on the street because they can't address the homeless issue, even when they control the richest city in the us with highest real estate prices and rents?
I don't support democrats or republicans - I support people who will address serious problems with serious people -- the democrats and republicans today don't fit that bill. But it's the only game in town. It's the hypocrisy I can't stand.
/div>Curious how you guys come up with this...
I don't care for Trump and you are pretty much dead on with him trying to moderate/censor speech on his part -- but then again how is what the left wants to do with the "WOKE" culture, don't cover trump, fire folks who tweet the wrong thing, etc.. any different? Explain that to me and maybe you get my agreement.
Basically I am against hypocrisy -- which is exactly what I see here. I won't list all the news articles on the woke/cancel/mob rule culture of the progressive side, there is plenty on the conservative side too .... That and there is no reason any private service has to allow all speech, it's a private service. The FCC of the left or right would both love to censor speech to just their version of the truth. Think about what you would say if AT&T or Verizon limit what you can talk about with your friends on your cell.. best you would bitch about that on either side. But social media is not a communications utility.
/div>Re: Re: gaslighting
most interesting thing is that as soon as took over, they built walls to prevent people entering and started vetting people before the let them in.. sorta ironic if you think about it?
/div>Re: Re: Re: Let see - a voluntary process being derailed intentionally
Note you aren't willing to post your name or back your comment up with refuting evidence. I can however produce video of both clintons, obama, and pelosi all saying how we need to control the boarder and stop illegal immigration. They all talk it, no one does anything.
Don't see what unsupported assumption is there. It's illegal to cross the boarder outside of a port of entry. The entire Rio Grande is not a port of entry. Everyone talked about how they would control illegal immigration, no one ever did it until Trump. ICE is simply enforcing the law. If you commit a crime in the US often you are separated from your children -- ask a lot of White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.. mothers in jails today. Don't believe it's a good idea, but why aren't you against separating mothers from children when the commit a crime if they not an illegal alien?
https://thefederalist.com/2018/06/16/thousands-of-american-children-are-separated-from-parents -put-in-prison-every-year/
If you are found in the company of a child that you can't prove it's yours when enter Canada - guess what you might get that child removed from your care.. same here.
"The are committing a crime by entering illegally - not through a Port of Entry" it's that simple. It's against the law and congress has not changed the law. ICE is simply enforcing it. If politicians don't want it to happen - change the laws. It's really that simple./div>
Let see - a voluntary process being derailed intentionally
Basically we are saying ICE is bad because it tries to enforce laws passed by politicians who don't want those laws to be enforced even though the voted for them? There is plenty of video evidence of obama, clinton(s), democrats, etc.. and republicans too all saying we have to stop illegal immigration for security and a number of other reasons. But those same folks want to abolish ICE and hate Trump because they are enforcing the same laws those politicians passed.
I would love to see true immigration reform with a true path to citizenship that is not almost impossible to get through. I would like a fast lane for those already in the system - ahead of those who are here illegally (yes not undocumented but "illegally") ... a path for those who jumped the line that doesn't require them to go back. But first you have to stop increasing the second set. That means enforcing the laws on the books or repealing those laws up front. But no one has the balls to deal with the problem./div>
Re: Re: Re: Hmm
She stole the nomination
Got debate questions ahead of time
Bury evidence by deleting emails
Finance a fake dossier on Trump
Weaponize FBI and use the fake dossier to get warrants
Outspend your opponent by more than double (Trump
spent 62% less per electoral vote than Hillary
Promise free stuff to just about everyone
Spy on your opponent
and STILL LOSE!!! Then call the man who beat you INCOMPETENT. You all have to see the unbelievable irony of blaming it on anyone but Hillary right?/div>
Doesn't this open the DNC to discovery?
My prediction is that this case will be dropped about Nov 7th...but until then it will allow the DNC and it's PR folks to say/leak/fabricate anything they want as commentary and it will be backed/reported as gospel by their supporting media outlets./div>
Russian WhistleBlower?? More Fake News
We did it to ourselves
(untitled comment)
Now I show up outside of the capital building as he walks out - bingo I am in sight, he's violated the law and can be arrested right?/div>
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