It sounds as though the city fathers were well aware of the police activity, and both condoned and profited from it. That may mean that they adopted the police practices as municipal policies.
If some Alabama atty can make that stick, the town is going to be on the hook for a great amount of money. Even if not, there is some risk that the people whose personalty was taken might bring claims.
The town's defense may be made more difficult by the disappearance of Chief Robbing Hood and his Merry Men.
Let me give 100% marks for the above, since two out of two links fail. The first says ``javascript not enabled'' and fails to deliver. The second fails to resolve.
We express our sympathies to the family for the loss of Amir Locke that resulted from this tragic chain of events as well as our support of the officers and their families."
So the cops think this is a good shoot, worthy of union support.
In Minneapolis, this should not be deemed surprising. Judging from the picture of his father, farther down in the article, the deceased was surely a person of color. That alone would explain the police union view and their ``support of the officers and their families''.
According to the underlying news article in the Star-Tribune, the initial police press release did that. The police press release was not truthful, but frequently truth is still getting its shoes on while a lie is halfway across the county.
Look at Florida’s new “Don’t Say Gay” bill: If that passes down there,
Florida enjoys the efficiencies of a one-party system. The same group controls both houses of the legislature, as well as the executive, and the judicial branches.
That party is generally in favor of a large, controlling government. It particularly favors government control of sex, drugs, literature, the internet, and anything else it can reach.
You should expect the bill to pass, it ticks the right boxes of government censorship, sex hostility, and ``think of the children''. How can it not pass?
As to when, well, the legislature is supposed to wrap up in about a month. So, expect the bill to be enacted in less than a month.
One of the scariest aspects of this is the fact that apparently the rank and file officers just fell in line
Not exactly. The (now former) chief appears to have hired the whole crew, presumably based on his success in fleecing travelers. So it was not so much a matter of falling in line as doing the job for which they were hired.
We offer a variety of ways for our readers to support us
Pretty much none of which include something basic like ``here is an address to send a check'' in case the viewer is not sure he wants to trust his credit card or banking information to the internet and websites thereon.
I appreciate that the nag message (which appears to have some sort of nasty javascript component) even follows an article highlighting why one might have doubts about furnishing financial information over the web.
Back in the day, I did some embedded code. A side effect of the functional code was collection of internal statistics. These were little more than a few counters that could be useful in assessing how things worked. If you used the secret sequence of keys, the statistics would be displayed, along with the code version information, which let us know what the device was running. We called this an ``easter egg''.
I understand that some computer games also have these things, and sometimes secret key sequences will give the user particular results or powers. Some of these sequences were entirely made up, some actually existed.
I cannot imagine that, in the proprietary secret code of the breath test machines, there is not something similar. It just beggars imagination that the authors would omit such things, whether ``for testing'' or just to see what they could sneak in there.
Sure, and it is a start. But let us follow through on the rule. Eliminating the tools of evil does have the advantage of appearing to discourage evil, and that appearance is valuable in many cases.
We just have to keep going. Many people use pointed sticks to threaten or injure other people. If we cut down all the trees, there will be no way for these bad persons to obtain the tools to commit their assaunts and batteries.
Maybe America would be better off to end this stupid "Drug War" thing
You might think that, if you thought that the goal was to control drugs. If you realized that there are two goals, neither particularly drug-related, then you would better understand why the U.S. needs its ``war on drugs'':
Provide new employment for former rum-runners and their heirs
Provide reason to mark darker-complected persons as non-voting felons
Understand these things and the necessity for the drug war becomes clear.
[sorry about the premature earlier submit, some genius put ``preview'' after ``submit'' so a stray return does the wrong thing]
Maybe America would be better off to end this stupid "Drug War" thing
You might think that, if you thought that the goal was to control drugs. If you realized that there are two goals, neither particularly drug-related, then you would better understand why the U.S. needs its ``war on drugs'':
When are the patent examiners and copyright trolls going to catch on? Well, in the make-believe world (VR, metaverse), perhaps they will understand within just a few weeks. In the real world, these offices are staffed with people whose livelihoods depend on their failure to understand.
Perhaps some lawyer could find a way to do this in bulk, against known-bad collectors, for a cut of the money
Not for a cut of the money. That would be excess work, since you have to set up contingency arrangements. It would also be insufficient pay, since even at 33% or 40% of statutory damages of $1000, that is not really going to cover the work involved.
Instead, take note that 15 USC 1692k(a)(3) provides a fee-shifting provision. The corresponding statutes in your state (in which I am not licensed) may also provide for fee-shifting.
Pattern and Practice
It sounds as though the city fathers were well aware of the police activity, and both condoned and profited from it. That may mean that they adopted the police practices as municipal policies.
If some Alabama atty can make that stick, the town is going to be on the hook for a great amount of money. Even if not, there is some risk that the people whose personalty was taken might bring claims.
The town's defense may be made more difficult by the disappearance of Chief Robbing Hood and his Merry Men.
/div>Re: Re: Re: Omitted but Possibly Important
So it does. And there are surely facts which support intent:
This would surely support a finding of intentional killing with premeditation.
/div>It Might Refer to Flowers
My first thought was of a particularly hardy variety of chrysanthemums.
/div>Re: success of a sort
Let me give 100% marks for the above, since two out of two links fail. The first says ``javascript not enabled'' and fails to deliver. The second fails to resolve.
/div>Re: A Fair Description
I think this is a pretty fair description of my function as a newspaper columnist.
/div>Omitted but Possibly Important
The public police union response:
So the cops think this is a good shoot, worthy of union support.
In Minneapolis, this should not be deemed surprising. Judging from the picture of his father, farther down in the article, the deceased was surely a person of color. That alone would explain the police union view and their ``support of the officers and their families''.
/div>Re: Re: How long will it take...?
According to the underlying news article in the Star-Tribune, the initial police press release did that. The police press release was not truthful, but frequently truth is still getting its shoes on while a lie is halfway across the county.
/div>Re: Re: conservative value
Well, actually, a majority of the Texas legislature said that social media companies should be required to host holocaust denial speech.
/div>Re: not so much "if" as "when"
Florida enjoys the efficiencies of a one-party system. The same group controls both houses of the legislature, as well as the executive, and the judicial branches.
That party is generally in favor of a large, controlling government. It particularly favors government control of sex, drugs, literature, the internet, and anything else it can reach.
You should expect the bill to pass, it ticks the right boxes of government censorship, sex hostility, and ``think of the children''. How can it not pass?
As to when, well, the legislature is supposed to wrap up in about a month. So, expect the bill to be enacted in less than a month.
/div>Re: Scary - the rank and file falls in line
Not exactly. The (now former) chief appears to have hired the whole crew, presumably based on his success in fleecing travelers. So it was not so much a matter of falling in line as doing the job for which they were hired.
/div>Let Me Know
Let me know when it runs on linux and can be built using my standard (GCC) compiler tools.
/div>The nag msg following each techdirt article
Pretty much none of which include something basic like ``here is an address to send a check'' in case the viewer is not sure he wants to trust his credit card or banking information to the internet and websites thereon.
I appreciate that the nag message (which appears to have some sort of nasty javascript component) even follows an article highlighting why one might have doubts about furnishing financial information over the web.
/div>Might Want to Examine the Source Code
Back in the day, I did some embedded code. A side effect of the functional code was collection of internal statistics. These were little more than a few counters that could be useful in assessing how things worked. If you used the secret sequence of keys, the statistics would be displayed, along with the code version information, which let us know what the device was running. We called this an ``easter egg''.
I understand that some computer games also have these things, and sometimes secret key sequences will give the user particular results or powers. Some of these sequences were entirely made up, some actually existed.
I cannot imagine that, in the proprietary secret code of the breath test machines, there is not something similar. It just beggars imagination that the authors would omit such things, whether ``for testing'' or just to see what they could sneak in there.
/div>Re: A Good Start, Perhaps
Sure, and it is a start. But let us follow through on the rule. Eliminating the tools of evil does have the advantage of appearing to discourage evil, and that appearance is valuable in many cases.
We just have to keep going. Many people use pointed sticks to threaten or injure other people. If we cut down all the trees, there will be no way for these bad persons to obtain the tools to commit their assaunts and batteries.
/div>Re: Interesting Computer courses
smelly spammer does not even try "preview"
/div>Re: [canadian drug war]
You might think that, if you thought that the goal was to control drugs. If you realized that there are two goals, neither particularly drug-related, then you would better understand why the U.S. needs its ``war on drugs'':
Understand these things and the necessity for the drug war becomes clear.
[sorry about the premature earlier submit, some genius put ``preview'' after ``submit'' so a stray return does the wrong thing]
/div>Re: [canadian drug war]
You might think that, if you thought that the goal was to control drugs. If you realized that there are two goals, neither particularly drug-related, then you would better understand why the U.S. needs its ``war on drugs'':
/div>Re: The evolution of bogus patents in technology
When are the patent examiners and copyright trolls going to catch on? Well, in the make-believe world (VR, metaverse), perhaps they will understand within just a few weeks. In the real world, these offices are staffed with people whose livelihoods depend on their failure to understand.
/div>Waiting
I often work in the yard. Let me know when I can usefully drink a nice, hoppy, virtual beer afterward.
Until then, real wallet stays in real pocket.
/div>Re:
Not for a cut of the money. That would be excess work, since you have to set up contingency arrangements. It would also be insufficient pay, since even at 33% or 40% of statutory damages of $1000, that is not really going to cover the work involved.
Instead, take note that 15 USC 1692k(a)(3) provides a fee-shifting provision. The corresponding statutes in your state (in which I am not licensed) may also provide for fee-shifting.
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