Batty Trademark Dispute
from the pow!-blam!-trademark! dept
Not quite sure what to make of this one, but the Consumerist alerts us to a bit of a trademark dispute between DC Comics and a small BBQ restaurant called BATS. Apparently, the restaurant's name comes from the names of its owners, "Beau And TraviS' restaurant," and they designed the following logo:Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Mike, is that you?
The capriciousness of our legal system aside, the real factor here is that DC has a team of lawyers and BaTs does not.
Disgusting.
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Re: Mike, is that you?
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Confusion
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Looks like Batman to me
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Re: Looks like Batman to me
http://www.infovisual.info/02/064_en.html
Convert that bat diagram into a silhouette, remove the hands and feet, and what do you get?
http://personal.psu.edu/bsf5033/blackbat.jpg
Gee, pretty much looks exactly like their logo. Just with slightly bigger ears. But then, simplify it a bit more - draw two lines straight down from the ears - and it looks _exactly the same_ as the restaurant's logo. A marginally simplified picture of something shouldn't be trademark infringement.
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poll to smurf
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You are getting soft Mike.
I didn't realize you could have a trademark be as vague as "any shape that resemble this" so much for specific instance.
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Re: looks like Bacardi
did DC ever sue Bacardi & Company Ltd? Guess not - bullies always pick on the weak ones...
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Damn! Louisiana Style BBQ? Sign me up. DC Comics were always lame, anyway. Why don't Beau and Travis just retcon to prove that their restaurant did in fact exist BEFORE Batman was created... at least in some universe. DC Comics knows *all* about that kind of logic. Hell go ahead and offer a 'Marvel No-Prize' to someone who could write that retcon, that would *really* stick it to DC.
/geek
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Pure bull
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Batman Logo
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Subject
I wonder if Sesame Street is now going to go on a suing spree?
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I'll chalk it down to overzealous prosecution due to the "must defend" aspect of trademark law.
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I mean let's face it, it's kinda hard for most people to see that logo and NOT think of Batman. I think it very unlikely that the restaurant owners did not see the similarity until the lawyers showed up...
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Even DC has modified its logo (nice addition of the video, btw) over the years which means even they can't keep a specific design without re-branding the franchise, unlike the Superman "S", for example.
Clearly DC is in the wrong here. There's much more to the Batman franchise than the logo, which they've also trademarked.
Of course, with comic book sales in the toilet now, DC has to make money somehow. /eyeroll
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MMM good
I'm annoyed that DC appears to that *nobody* can use the outline of a bat because of their crappy franchise because that doesn't seem right. I went to their website to register a complain but the DC Contact Us page only has mailto: links for money making opportunities. Instead, I'll vote with my wallet and no longer see a DC franchise movie, or buy toys or comic bo\\ graphic novels. Sorry DC, you've lost a potential customer thanks to your lawyers.
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Two complaints
Second complaint: crappy font used in the logo.
So.. I guess that means I would rather eat bat than look at that horrible font. Can I sue for bad taste in false advertising? Please?
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The Likelihood of Confusion . . . about what a trademark is for.
Once again, it must be said that the use of the term "intellectual property" is responsible for a lot of this confusion in the public discourse, because people have the common-sense conception that if you "own" something then you should have the full and exclusive right to determine precisely how, and if it is to be used.
It is if owning a trademark were no different than owning a car.
Most unfortunately, I believe this is exactly how IP maximalists believe the law "should" read . . .
The hell with how the law actually does read.
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"Even DC has modified its logo (nice addition of the video, btw) over the years which means even they can't keep a specific design without re-branding the franchise, unlike the Superman "S", for example."
You'd be supprised how much the Superman S has changed over the years
Original
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Superman_Shield_Golden_Age.jpg
Compared to now.
http://www.louderthanwordsbooks.com/marni/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Anonymous-Superman-Logo-1 5837.jpg
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Re: success of a sort
Let me give 100% marks for the above, since two out of two links fail. The first says ``javascript not enabled'' and fails to deliver. The second fails to resolve.
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