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  lemon obrien, 7 Jul 2005 @ 12:13pm

  
  

  the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

  why do we need www (dot) whatever...
  its just a mapping of ascii to an ip address
  why not just...techdirt
  
  

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    Anonymous Hero, 7 Jul 2005 @ 1:24pm

    
    

    Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

    Well actually, the techdirt site also maps to just techdirt.com, so it would map to both www.techdirt and just plain techdirt.

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      anonymous cowboy, 7 Jul 2005 @ 1:30pm

      
      

      Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

      Let's see... what would an internet that isn't "mostly controlled by the US" look like?
      No ebay
      No google
      No yahoo
      No MSN
      No craigslist
      No Techdirt (?!)
      enjoy that one, foreigners! i think i'll stay over here on the real internet, led by good old american innovation!

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        A.F, 7 Jul 2005 @ 1:37pm

        
        

        Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

        There's nothing that pervents a single site to be accessible via both 'nets. In fact, if the new network takes off, which I very much doubt, this is what most people would do. It would still be HTTP over something that looks like TCPIP, right?

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        thecaptain, 8 Jul 2005 @ 7:32am

        
        

        Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

        *cough* what a moron!
        
        way to miss the point...
        
        MSN, Craigslist, techdirt, google aren't "US" controled.
        
        Go read the article and read about domain registrars sometime.

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    Anonymous Coward, 7 Jul 2005 @ 3:32pm

    
    

    Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

    "why do we need www (dot) whatever... its just a mapping of ascii to an ip address why not just...techdirt "

    You don't, and you never did; it just became customary to give your dedicated websever the name "www.yourdomain.whatever" because it was usually a physically seperate machine with an IP address different from "yourdomain.whatever".

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      lemon obrien, 7 Jul 2005 @ 3:50pm

      
      

      Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

      maybe its time to change.

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      Phibian, 8 Jul 2005 @ 9:05am

      
      

      Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

      I should point out that many, many folks don't just have a www.webaddress.com Of those that do, generally both www.webaddress.com or simply webaddress.com often both work.
      
      Take our site as an example. www.phibian.com and phibian.com both point to our website. However, we also use other bits of text to point to different websites or services that we have online.
      
      For instance, if you are looking for a demo of any of our products, if a demo is available, it is accessible under productname.demo.phibian.com.
      
      Quite a number of organizations use similar schemes for hosting web applications such as webmail.
      
      Unfortunately, people are so used to the www, that it is confusing when no www is required. We generally allow a www in front no matter what (some exceptions) because it results in fewer support calls. Like it or not, www is here to stay for at least a few more years.

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        Anonymous Coward, 8 Jul 2005 @ 9:49am

        
        

        Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

        what makes you think the internet is controlled by the US in the first place? it's mighty arrogant for any of you to think that the internet belongs to the US.

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          Ivan Sick, 8 Jul 2005 @ 10:08am

          
          

          Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

          Yeah, _the internet_ doesn't "belong" to any country or entity. Neither does America have any control over it. DARPA developed the technology that the web is based on, but that's it. And the "US internet" "with all its..." spyware, etc....most of those popups don't originate in America, probably...

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  Anonymous Coward, 7 Jul 2005 @ 1:42pm

  
  

  No Subject Given

  Although complaining about the US is very vogue, I can't imagine any other institution that would have done a better job managing the internet infrastructure. The thought of the UN running it makes me shudder.
  

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    Pussy, 7 Jul 2005 @ 1:48pm

    
    

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    So if we follow this comment to its logical conclusion, you would also like the US government to manage all health care, all security both public and private, control all airlines, to say nothing of having the ability to allow or restrict the free flow of information?
    
    You voted for W. didn’t you?
    

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      Anonymous Coward, 8 Jul 2005 @ 11:11am

      
      

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      So if we follow this comment to its logical conclusion, you would also like the US government to manage all health care, all security both public and private, control all airlines, to say nothing of having the ability to allow or restrict the free flow of information?
      You voted for W. didn’t you?
      I think you're a bit confused about what the phrase 'logical conclusion' means. You seem to be using it as a synonym for 'Waah, stomp my foot.'
      What free flow of information on the internet has the US blocked (that wasn't blatantly illegal)? Compare that to the micromanagement we could expect from the UN, or that we already see in many other countries.
      

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  nonuser, 7 Jul 2005 @ 5:58pm

  
  

  great, here's a hundred and twenty bucks

  Give me the .com, .net, and .uk domains in your new Internet

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  dorpus, 7 Jul 2005 @ 8:14pm

  
  

  Sounds Good

  Does anyone really like the US internet, with all its spam, popups, adware? Why shouldn't others build better internets? Fragmentation will work better against malware writers too, if their tricks won't work on all internets.
  
  

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  Marc, 8 Jul 2005 @ 2:43am

  
  

  new internet

  you would still be able to access both nets, i'm assumeing of course that bandwidth would overlap. it would make sure that the internet would remain an open voice for all people re:china scensoring their media including internet. things like the internet shouldnt be in then hands of government or any single entity. too much corruption in politions, from every party. keep the internet in the hands of the people. its information. thats where it belongs.

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  Ivan Sick, 8 Jul 2005 @ 10:11am

  
  

  "US controlled"

  Ah yes, forgot to point out: "mostly controlled by the US," the way I read it, means "The largest portals and sites on the internet are owned by American companies" not "The United States government dictates how the intarweb works"

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  Fazookus, 8 Jul 2005 @ 12:23pm

  
  

  "Controlled"

  
  Um, controlled here means control of the DNS system currently used, not the hardware, the protocols, or the sites. You could start Joe's Names 'n Numbers and replace it if you could get enough people to agree (that would be the hard part, of course).
  
  Faz

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    Ivan Sick, 8 Jul 2005 @ 10:04pm

    
    

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    "controlled here means control of the DNS system currently used,"
    I still say the US as a contry or a government has nothing to do with it...

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      Anonymous Coward, 12 Jul 2005 @ 7:07pm

      
      

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      As long as YOU say so, it must be OK.
      
      We should all just shut up and stop our whinning.

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  VonSkippy, 8 Jul 2005 @ 6:05pm

  
  

  Ha Ha

  Ha Ha, that's a good one. A large scale network designed and managed by Turks. That's the first thing that comes to mind when you think of Turkey - High Tech. ###To-do list. Wash camel. Smack wife around. Belittle daughter for overcooked dog. Change IP on domain and update all BGP routers###. Think I'll wait until version 2.0 (and or hell freezes over) before I care.

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